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I was wondering whether to put Yubel 1st to 3rd form in my deck. But, what are Yubel's pro and con's?<BR>
''What I know maybe wrong''
*Yubel can't be destroyed during my battle phase but still receive damage from the opposing monster?
*Yubel Terror Incarnate can move to Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare even though its remove from play?
*Yubel Terror Incarnate effect's is better than Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare.

''Problems''
*How do i kill Yubel without getting its 2nd and 3rd form out?
*Can i use Magic Cylinder to push the attack back to the opponent's life point?

''Something irrelevant''<BR>
How do I place hyperlinks here?

[[User:Tanhopkins93|Tanhopkins93]] 11:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(Newbie May Win:9 Lose:4)

* Firstly you hyperlink by placing 2 of [ in front of the article, and 2 of the other bracket afterwards.
** [[Yubel]] can be returned to the opponent's hand or removed from play.  Or you can prevent the opponent from Tributing any of their monsters so Yubel destroys itself.
** Magic Cylinder will stop the attack, but it won't deal any damage.
[[Special:Contributions/90.208.147.114|90.208.147.114]] 14:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

First, the card states the owner recieves "no Battle Damage" from battles involving Yubel (any form). The damage it inflicts in effect damage and can be reflected through cards like Barrel Behind the Door or through effects like that of Prime Material Dragon. Getting Yubel out on the field besides tributing for it can be done through Mystic Tomato, Damage Condenser, Limit Rebirth, etc. Magic Cylinder DOES NOT work with Yubel because Yubel's damage is effect damage, not battle damage. The easiest ways I've found to get out Yubel's second and third forms are through Torrential Tribute, Exiled Force or MST/Heavy Storm your own Premature Burial or Limit Rebirth. The downfall of Yubel is a DD Deck. Lastly, Yubel's 1st and 2nd forms inflict damage only when its attacked, not when you use it to attack, which is what makes the 3rd form better then the other two. Using cards like Staunch Defender and All Out Attacks work well with all forms of Yubel. However, simply running one of each form in your deck is not a good idea as Yubel is designed to have a complete deck designed around it. See my page for Yubel deck ideas. [[User:Lightspeed1967|Lightspeed1967]] 15:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*You can cause "[[Yubel]]" or "[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]]" to [[Missing the Timing|miss the timing]] for their effect to activate.  For example, chain "[[Ring of Destruction]]" to ANY card effect, and the next form can't be Summoned.  
:Also, "[[Yubel]]" has to be destroyed.  If she's only removed from play, returned to the hand, or "sent to the Graveyard" without being destroyed, her effect doesn't work.  Stuff like "[[Dimensional Prison]]", "[[Karma Cut]]", "[[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]", or "[[Share the Pain]]" won't let the next form be Summoned.
:I haven't tried it myself, but if you're using "[[Yubel]]", try "[[Interdimensional Matter Transporter]]".  "[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]]" will be removed, causing you to summon "[[Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare]]" and get back "[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]]".  --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] 19:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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 *Yubel Terror Incarnate can move to Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare even though its remove from play?
 *Yubel Terror Incarnate effect's is better than Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare.
-couldnt you use blue eyes shining dragon: blue eyes fan
 ''Problems''
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 :Also, "[[Yubel]]" has to be destroyed.  If she's only removed from play, returned to the hand, or "sent to the Graveyard" without being destroyed, her effect doesn't work.  Stuff like "[[Dimensional Prison]]", "[[Karma Cut]]", "[[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]", or "[[Share the Pain]]" won't let the next form be Summoned.
 :I haven't tried it myself, but if you're using "[[Yubel]]", try "[[Interdimensional Matter Transporter]]".  "[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]]" will be removed, causing you to summon "[[Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare]]" and get back "[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]]".  --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] 19:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-What for?
-Yubel-TUT will be destroyed by Yubel-TI's trigger effect in your turn anyway....
-[[User:Neos lover|Neos lover]] 19:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-*Heh, thought there was something wrong with that. :P --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] 19:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-True, but if you activate IMT on your opponents turn it allows you to bring out Yubel-TUN for his turn and your turn, which allows you to attack with it, thus inflicting damage and destroying an opponents monster before its destroyed during the end phase of your turn by Yubel-TI. Also, if you have Staunch Defender or All Out Attacks on the field, it could seriously cripple your opponents turn and/or life points. [[User:Lightspeed1967|Lightspeed1967]] 15:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
-Wooops Sorry Deus Ex....
-I meant Yubel-TUN
-[[User:Neos lover|Neos lover]] 17:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
-Thanks alot for giving me some advice on Yubel.<BR>
-Now, i need to know the weaknesses so i can avoid it drawbacks.
-[[User:Tanhopkins93|Tanhopkins93]] 06:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(Newbie June Win:1 Lose:3)
-Yubel's weakness is DD Decks because if it doesn't hit the graveyard its hard to summon and/or you don't get the next form. Also, DH-Plasma, Angel 07, and Skill Drain stop its effects, so those are key problem cards. And since his damage is effect damage, Prime Material Dragon is horribly bad unless you creature swapped it. Same goes for Barrel Behind the Door. [[User:Lightspeed1967|Lightspeed1967]] 16:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
-I see, iwas wondering... Is there a card to force an opponent to only attack Yubel? Other than the defendewr thing?
-Ring of Magnetism. [[User:Lightspeed1967|Lightspeed1967]] 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
-A one time thing would be Shift. [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 15:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
-Can Yubel be affect work on Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes
-If Vennominga attacks Yubel, they will take damage, however, any card to force them to attack yubel wouldn't affect Venominga. In the case of the 2nd form, when it nukes the field during the end phase, Vennominga would survive. Finaly, if the 3rd form attacks Vennominga, the damage would be delt, but she wouldn't be destroyed.-[[Special:Contributions/82.11.158.0|82.11.158.0]] 02:57, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
-:If you control "[[Yubel]]" and "[[Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes]]" during the End Phase, then you should be able to choose to Tribute "[[Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes]]".  "[[Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes]]" won't be Tributed, and "[[Yubel]]" will remain on the field.  --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 00:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
-If Vennominga attacks Yubel, they will take damage, however, any card to force them to attack yubel wouldn't affect Venominga. In the case of the 2nd form, when it nukes the field during the end phase, Vennominga would survive. Finaly, if the 3rd form attacks Vennominga, the damage would be delt, but she wouldn't be destroyed
-((((you have to be specific...Ok i controll the Vennominga and i attack your yubel who will take the damage?)))))
-From [[Card Rulings:Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare]]
-:''When "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare" battles with a monster that cannot be destroyed by its effect, like "Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes", "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare's" effect still inflicts damage but will not destroy the monster.''
-:So only the controller of Vennominaga will take damage. [[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]] 05:20, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
-There is something you all forgot. Yubel just needs to be destroyed, NEVER destroyed and sent to the graveyard, so even if there a DD card on the field and Yubel is destroyed. Yubel WILL get its effect since she is succesfully destroyed. And right now there is something new in the rulling for Yubel Terror Incarnate. How come Yubel Terror in carnate is removed from the field by sending it back to the deck, it will not get Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare, so how come Elemntal Hero Absolute Zero gets its effect if bounced to the extra deck??? and if Elemental Hero Absolute Zero is removed while face down it doesn't get the effect, and Yubel Terror Incarnate if removed while face down , IT WILL get its effect to special summond Yubel The Ultimate Nightmare. I play a Yubel deck, and is very good, I do good in tournaments with it.
-:General Rule: Cards in the Main Deck have no effects.
-:They never said something like that to the Extra Deck, but Proof that cards have effects in the Extra Deck is: Take a look at 'Contact Fusion' monsters.
-:For how Yubel still works when removed face down and not cards like Absolute Zero, it's because Yubel doesn't say "When this card is removed from the '''field'''". [[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]] 06:21, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
-::[[Yubel - Terror Incarnate]] will not activate its effect if it is removed while it was face-down on the field. It works the same with [[Elemental Hero Absolute Zero]]. Those monsters work all the same way. Maybe because they don't have a restriction to be sent to a specific Zone. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 08:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)