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== Missing in the list ==

This page isn't listed in the number members box.--[[User:Computer Bug|Computer Bug]] ([[User talk:Computer Bug|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Computer Bug|contribs]]) 15:20, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

:It's because it don't have correct number and is about to removed from this site. We have to wait till it showed a specify number before post it. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 15:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

==Heart eartH?==
We recently found out that [[Number 92: False Skeletal God Dragon, Heart-eartH Dragon|Unknow Faker's number]] has Heart eartH on its name. Should we rename this one too or wait till more info? --[[User:NexusShiker|<span style="color:green; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15pt">Falling Stars and Laggia</span>]] <span style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15pt">Will rebirth</span>([[User talk:NexusShiker|Talk]])  14:13, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

== Looks Like a Six? ==

On The Left Side of The Number it Looks Like Number 6
it Looks Blurrie Like Number 63? Look Closer And See For Your Selfs?

:Nop, look at the Numbers chart on the Numbers page. It's definitely a "5", not a "6". On a side note, don't forget to sign your post with four tildes. [[User:HPZ - O.N.E.|HPZ - O.N.E.]] ([[User talk:HPZ - O.N.E.|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/HPZ - O.N.E.|contribs]]) 08:47, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

== Fake Corpse ==

I posted this on Number 92's page, but got no response. Wouldn't it be better to call it Fake-Corpse God, instead of False Skeletal? As far as I can see, it has noting to do with bones, and it destroying Equip Cards to protect itself is similar to faking its corpse. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 23:49, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

It is all in translation. There are a lot of names that ''should'' be, but '''aren't'''. [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 23:55, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

:Actually, the gai part can mean body, corpse, or bone. However, Skeletal itself is way-off. Gaikotsu means skeleton, but gai itself only means bone. Not to mention, that using False and Skeletal together implies that both the adjectives apply to God, not Skeletal. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 23:57, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
:: Again, it is come to a vote. [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 23:58, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

::So, no one is going to object to a name change? [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 13:42, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

:::You'd need more people to see the discussion. 1 man shouldn't (often) make his own decisions. [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 13:48, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

::::Considering its used by Dr. Faker, "Fake" seems like it was probably the intended translation (its attack is even called "Fake Burn"). Master D, I recall you saying that there's no indication the monsters resemble skeletons - fine. But there's also no indication the monsters or bodies or corpses or anything like that either. Wouldn't "Fake Body" or "Fake Dummy" work. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 15:40, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

:::::I moved Number 92 to Fake-Body before, but HHT said that gai is used to refer  to the remains of a body, and using body would confuse with a living body. Its effect is actually similar to using a fake corpse, as it sacrifices its equipped monsters. I don't know how you got Dummy. Gai translates to the remains of something, a shell, a husk. It can be also used to refer to human remains, i.e. a corpse. Anyhow, the way the card is worded now is deceiving. If you put two adjectives together, it is implied they both apply to the noun. Gi only applies to the gai part. It doesn't apply to the God part. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 15:48, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

::::::I've seen it compared to a [http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Gigai Gigai] from ''Bleach'' - a dummy body, basically. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 15:58, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::I thought so too, and I checked it, but the kanji is different. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 16:12, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

::::::::Given [[Card Gallery:Number 69: God Medallion Coat of Arms|the precedent]] set for villain ace cards, Number 92 could easily have alternate forms. Next week's episode should be the last time its used. I suggest we wait until then. As of now, there's not much indication that the monster is dead, so corpse just seems wrong. Can "gai" not simply refer to a body in general? I get the feeling the whole thing is really just a reference to Faker's name. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 12:32, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::Well, I don't mind body, but gai is used for the remains of something. And the monster itself isn't a corpse. It just utilizes corpses (the monsters in the Graveyard) to protect itself, i.e. a fake corpse. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 14:14, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::Here's my wacky suggestion - Number 53: Exoskeletal God - Heart-EartH. Doesn't conjure the image of something that's currently living, but also doesn't steer towards something corpse-like. Number 93 could, as parallel, be Exoskeletal God Dragon. <span style="color:#0148C2; text-shadow: black 0 4px 4px;">[[User:AEtherchild|AEtherchild]] ([[User talk:AEtherchild|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/AEtherchild|Contribs]])</span> 01:23, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::I would pushing it further to "Exoskeletal Lord - Heart-eartH" instead, like with "[[Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World]]", which was once translated as "Grapha, Dragon '''God''' of Dark World". Plus, Earth must have a lower E's and captain H's. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 01:32, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::::Good point, 神 does often come out as "Lord" instead of "God". Didn't check that. <span style="color:#0148C2; text-shadow: black 0 4px 4px;">[[User:AEtherchild|AEtherchild]] ([[User talk:AEtherchild|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/AEtherchild|Contribs]])</span> 01:35, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Doesn't matter. We shouldn't speculate what they'll replace "God" with. It makes us look bad when we guess wrong. That said, what "shin" should be translated to in pretty much any case is up for debate. As for "Exoskeleton", I like it. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 02:20, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::::An exoskeleton is an external skeleton. We're not looking for suggestions on what the TCG name will be; we're looking for a suitable translation of the OCG name. Gigai, as I said, is Fake Corpse. Gi means 'fake', not external, so exoskeleton is impossible. The only part now we're unsure of is 'gai', which can be translated as bone, body, corpse, shell or husk. So if you want to offer a suggestion, please offer one of those! [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 11:43, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::::So, what will it be; Fake-Corpse or Fake-Body? [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 19:31, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

:Why are you guys discussed about its card name? In OCG, its card name is known as "Number53: False Skeletal God, Heart-eartH". So just wait until we know its TCG name. ---[[User:TheGallisMan|TheGallisMan]] ([[User talk:TheGallisMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheGallisMan|contribs]]) 19:55, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

::We ''are'' talking about the OCG name. The current name is wrong. So we are talking about which is better; Number 53: Fake-Corpse God, Heart-eartH or Number 53: Fake-Body God, Heart-eartH. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 21:54, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

:::There's no real indication the monster is dead, so I think "Body" works much better. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 00:05, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

::::It doesn't mean the monster itself is dead. It utilizes fake corpses, i.e. its Equip Cards. If a corpse is fake, that means it's still alive. But I don't mind either way. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 16:00, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
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 ::::It doesn't mean the monster itself is dead. It utilizes fake corpses, i.e. its Equip Cards. If a corpse is fake, that means it's still alive. But I don't mind either way. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 16:00, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
-:::::Can you move this card and 92, 'cause 92 is locked? [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 18:34, September 19, 2012 (UTC)