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== Needs correcting and upset how I've been treated==
 
== Needs correcting and upset how I've been treated==
 
I am really upset on how I've been treated on here when trying to give accurate information and would really like if an admin could please here what I have to say and help correct something, I have proof and official source of said info and would like to talk about it please? [[User:Jerrboy31|Jerrboy31]] ([[User talk:Jerrboy31|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jerrboy31|contribs]]) 06:44, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 
I am really upset on how I've been treated on here when trying to give accurate information and would really like if an admin could please here what I have to say and help correct something, I have proof and official source of said info and would like to talk about it please? [[User:Jerrboy31|Jerrboy31]] ([[User talk:Jerrboy31|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jerrboy31|contribs]]) 06:44, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
:Feel free to tell me what happened! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 11:19, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Desperate Tag ==
 
 
Can [[Card Rulings:Desperate Tag|the rulings]] for "[[Desperate Tag]]" (regarding the card itself being activated) be extrapolated to make stuff like [[Card Rulings:Damage = Reptile|the ruling]] of "[[Damage = Reptile]]" obsolete? Keep in mind that "[[Howl of the Wild]]" has [[Card Rulings:Howl of the Wild|a ruling]] that was issued '''at the same time''' as "Desperate Tag"... is that ruling vague enough for "Desperate Tag"'s ruling to apply to it? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:02, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oh! How did I missed this post? Big sorry for the late respond!
 
:It seems like Trap Cards with optional Trigger-like effects that activate during the Damage Step (inflict Battle Damage, send to the Graveyard as a result of battle, etc), can activate the card and the effect in the same chain link during the Damage Step when it meets its trigger condition. Cards with mandatory trigger-like effect cannot be activated that way. For example cards like "[[Howl of the Wild]]", "[[Robbin' Goblin]]", "[[Robbin' Zombie]]" and "[[Xyz Tribalrivals]]" cannot be activated during the Damage Step and they all have OCG Rulings about that. "[[Hard-sellin' Goblin]]", "[[Hard-sellin' Zombie]]", "[[Begone, Knave!]]", and "[[Madolche Waltz]]" have similar effects but they don't have a specific ruling for that, but they should work the same. On the other hand, cards with optional effects have all rulings that say they can be activated (card + effect) in the same chain link: "[[U.A. Penalty Box]]", "[[Damage = Reptile]]", "[[Desperate Tag]]", "[[Yang Zing Creation]]". The only weird card in this category is "[[Unpossessed]]" which has a ruling that says it can be activated only from the "start of the Damage Step" up to "before damage calculation" (probably because of its second effect) but it says nothing if you can activate the card and use its 3rd effect in the same chain link when the monster is destroyed by battle and send to the Graveyard.
 
:This issue is bugging many judges until now sinse there isn't any official statement about how these Trap Cards work exactly. I will ask this as a question in the TCG Judge Forum hoping to get an official definition on this. I will reply here if I get an answer. So, to answer your question, I would say that a judge can extrapolate [[Card Rulings:Desperate Tag|the OCG ruling]] for "[[Desperate Tag]]" to "[[Damage = Reptile]]" since both fall into the same effect category, and consider UDE's old ruling as outdated.
 
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 23:41, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Card/Hand Verification ==
 
 
Regarding the Judge Program Forum Rulings for cards like "[[Mind Crush]]" and other cards that might involve revealing the hand for confirmation, can we make some of them "official" now? As of this message, in the bottom-right hand corner here, you can see some Tournament Policy Documents. In the one specifically named "[http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/penalty_guide/Yu-Gi-Oh!%20Tournament%20Policy%20v1.4%202013November14.pdf KDE Official Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME Tournament Policy]" which have been '''officially published by Konami''' and can be '''publicly accessed''', you can see a "Card/Hand Verification" section there which deals with some of the issues the Judge Program Forum Rulings cover. I can't view the forum, so would you mind changing some of the rulings to be outside of the green "unverified" box? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 20:40, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
 
:Yes, we can do that, no problem! I did it already in "[[Card Rulings:Mind Crush]]". [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:53, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Wall of Revealing Light ==
 
 
[http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Rulings%3AWall_of_Revealing_Light&diff=1896366&oldid=1586832 Regarding this edit], do you remember the source where it was stated that you can't pay your LP to 0 (in the TCG)? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 01:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
 
:I doubt there is a source for that! I think it is a general Ruling rather than an individual one, which is extrapolated from the fact that "<i>you cannot pay the cost if your LP would become 0</i>"! Similar situation is when paying LP for a mandatory [[Mainenance Cost]]. In the OCG it is stated that if you have exactly the LP amount to be paid then you must pay it and lose the Duel. In the TCG there is no ruling for this so "normally" you go with the "<i>you can't pay the cost</i>". Much like you can't activate [[Premature Burial]] with only 800 LP left. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 10:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 

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