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The anime and other media had another option, which was destroying all the opponent's monsters allowing "Obelisk" to attack directly instead of gaining ATK (this was apparently the explanation used when Kaiba activated the effect against Yami Yugi). Scheepybird did Kaiba also acivate this effect against the Rare Hunters in episode 68
 
The anime and other media had another option, which was destroying all the opponent's monsters allowing "Obelisk" to attack directly instead of gaining ATK (this was apparently the explanation used when Kaiba activated the effect against Yami Yugi). Scheepybird did Kaiba also acivate this effect against the Rare Hunters in episode 68
 
when he tag teamed with Yugi? [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 15:10, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
when he tag teamed with Yugi? [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 15:10, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
:Yes, he did. The only time he gained infinity ATK was in the Kaiba VS Duel Machine Duel and the Yugi VS Marik Duel. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 19:25, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Thank you. i thought it was odd in that episode when Kaiba said that the sacrifice increased his power and you don't see it increase. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 19:35, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:I don't think the Gods can change their battle positions even when they are Special Summoned, since Kaiba could have done that. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 19:28, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
i dont think so either just thought i would ask. Thank you for all the help you have given me over the past few days and i am sorry if it feels i have been hostile towards you it was not my intension to be. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 19:32, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:No problem (and I didn't think you were hostile). Have a good day. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 19:34, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
You too. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 19:37, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Hi Scheepybird was just reading the discribtion for episode 131 and it says Slifer isn't destroyed by Obelisk's effect but doesn't say why. Do you know why this is the case when Egyptian Gods can be destroyed by the effects of other Gods? [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 23:25, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Well, the anime ignored the hierarchy, and it's very inconsistent. So right now Slifer was unaffected by the effects of the gods of the same hierarchy. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 23:34, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Thank you I wish they didn't ignore the Hierarchy it was less confusing and that way they wouldn't need cards like Class System. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 23:37, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Now that you mention inconsistanceys i read yugioh duelist 89 when Kaiba is testing obelisk how come when kaiba activated his effect that makes his attack infinite and he attacks all your opponents monsters it just showed Obelisk attacking the three Blue-Eyes White Dragons and not Lord of D that didn't make sense to me. Does he attack all monsters in the anime or was that effect removed cause again Obelisk ignored Lord of D and just attacked Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon? its like in the manga and anime Lord of D does a vanishing act. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 14:10, March 20, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:It's possible that it attacks all Attack Position monsters. Either that, or ignoring "Lord of D." was just for dramatic effect. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 16:27, March 20, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Could the same be said for episode 141 because the camera angle makes it appear that Obelisk is only attacking Ra. Myself personally I can't see Obelisk ignoring DEF position monsters same with Ra's instant attack effect [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 16:36, March 20, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Hi Scheepybird just watched episode 54 where Kaiba tests Obelisk and according to the computer's Duel Disk Lord of D is in ATK position so i agree with you that it ignores Lord of D for dramitic affect. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 19:33, March 20, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Hey  I cant figure out how to use the forums to post but I was wondering if you knew anything about Misprinted Cards? because I have one that well... if I went through this much Effort to track down more information about it.
 
Sorry to bother you I just have no other idea on how to figure this out and ive been searching for over a year[[User:Eseman|Eseman]] ([[User talk:Eseman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eseman|contribs]]) 21:40, April 14, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Hi Scheepybird hope you have been well. I just read your change on Obelisk's effect and i also noticed that Obelisk doesn't attack the Metal Fiend Token. I then came up with the theory that when Obelisk uses this effect if there are multiple copies of the monster Obelisk attacks then he attacks all the copies of that monster which is why in the manga when he is facing the Duel Computer all 3 Blue-Eyes White Dragons are destroyed. what to think about this. Kind Regards Richard [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 00:31, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Theory isn't exactly accepted (sorry to butt in). It's more likely that Obelisk CAN attack all monsters, but just didn't attack the Metal Fiend Token, since Yugi would have lost if he had owing to its effect. [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 01:00, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Sanokal K-T no need to apologise. So what your saying is that Obelisk has the option to attack all monsters but he doesn't have to. This may get me in trouble but i was under the empression that the whole page on the God's effects is based on Theroy because only the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh knows what their effects were [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 01:09, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Yeah, they way such effects are usually worded is "This card can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each", though there are exceptions. When it comes to stating their effects, you aren't entirely wrong, but that isn't right either. Since their effects are so funky then we do have to make assumptions. We don't just pull stuff out of thin air though, if you get my meaning (by that same admission, the whole Blue-Eyes thing was arguably not entirely out of thin air). [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 01:20, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah i know what you mean. thank you for helping me clear this up Sanokal K-T. [[User:RichardJRansome1986|RichardJRansome1986]] ([[User talk:RichardJRansome1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RichardJRansome1986|contribs]]) 01:31, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Jaden vs. Yugi ==
 
 
Scheepybird, it's agreed we don't know if Jaden lost to Yugi, because it wasn't explicitly shown. So please stop insisting Jaden lost. This is not the first time you were told we can't officially know if Jaden lost or not. <span class="nowrap">[[User:Becasita|Becasita]] <sup><small>Pendulum</small></sup></span> <span class="nowrap">([[User talk:Becasita|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Becasita|contribs]])</span> 16:14, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
 

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