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can solemn judgement negate stardust assault at the end phase?
 
can solemn judgement negate stardust assault at the end phase?
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:If [[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]] negates the effect of the first [[Lightsworns|Lightsworn]], then the turn player can activate the effects of the remaining [[Lightsworns]] before the other player activates the effect of his [[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]] and special summons it to the field again.
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:[[Solemn Judgment]] cannot negate cards' effects, so it cannot negate the effect of [[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]] during the [[End Phase]].
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:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 05:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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what happens if my stardust is already off the field and comes back during end phase. can it still negate any lightsworns at end phase?
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if someone attacks my stardust assault with a light monster and activates honest and i negate it with stardust assault's ability thus sending stardust to the grave can the monster that honest acted upon still attack or not?
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:1) It's the same. The Turn player has priority to activate all of his effects first, before you can activate [[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]]'s effect.
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:2) No. The Battle Damage stops and the monster cannot attack again.
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:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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So, let's suppose there are 2 Lumina and 2 Garoth on my side of the field and Stardust Assault on my opponent's side of the field. What happens at the end phase, assuming that my opponent wants to negate the effects of each lighsworn? [[User:Bainina|Bainina]] 10:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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:Let's make it clear:
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::(Step 1) Your End Phase approaches.
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::(Step 2) You (the turn player) have the priority to activate/resolve a(n) card/effect (mandatory, optional or any Spell Speed 2 or higher effect), or pass. If you activate an effect, then after the chain resolves you turn back again to step 2. If you pass move forwards to step 3.
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::(Step 3) Your opponent (non-turn player) has the priority to activate/resolve a(n) card/effect (mandatory, optional or any Spell Speed 2 or higher effect), or pass. If your opponent activate an effect, then after the chain resolves, turn back to step 2. If your opponent pass move forwards to step 4.
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::(Step 4) If you have a mandatory effect unresolved, then you must activate/resolve an effect now. After the chain ends move to step 2. If you don't have any mandatory effects unresolved move to step 5.
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::(Step 5) If your opponent has a mandatory effect unresolved, then he must activate/resolve an effect now. After the chain ends move to step 2. If your opponent doesn't have any mandatory effects unresolved move to step 6.
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::(Step 6) The End Phase ends. You discard cards due to hand size limit.
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:As you can see, you can apply all [[Lightsworns]]' effects at step 2, without passing to step 3 and give the change to your opponent to activate the effect of his [[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]].
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:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 13:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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Ok...not that this happened to me yet or anything...but this is confusing as hell. So if I control my lightsworns...say lumina and lyla...and the effect activates which sends 3 cards to the graveyard...if I activate my effects in Step 2 can my opponent counter my effect in Step 3 or do my effects have to resolve before priority can pass to my opponent? [[Special:Contributions/137.104.83.207|137.104.83.207]] 20:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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:Basically, your opponent cannot activate a "''during the End Phase''" effect (like the Special Summoning of "[[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]]") until you allow him.
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:You activate the effect of "[[Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner]]".  Your opponent [[chain]]s the effect of "[[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]]" to negate the effect of and destroy "[[Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner]]".
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:Afterwards, you are the Turn Player, so you can activate one of your effects before the opponent can activate one of his.  You can activate the effect of "[[Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress]]", and it will resolve properly.
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:Afterwards, you are the Turn Player, so you can activate one of your effects before the opponent can activate one of his.  You decide to pass, and allow your opponent to activate the effect of "[[Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode]]".
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:--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 21:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:43, 27 April 2009

There are lightsworn cards that cause discarding of cards from the top of the deck can stardust assault negate as many as possible during the end phase? such as 3 light sworns whom mill altogether since stardust assault comes back at the end phase

can solemn judgement negate stardust assault at the end phase?

If Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode negates the effect of the first Lightsworn, then the turn player can activate the effects of the remaining Lightsworns before the other player activates the effect of his Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode and special summons it to the field again.
Solemn Judgment cannot negate cards' effects, so it cannot negate the effect of Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode during the End Phase.
ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 05:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

what happens if my stardust is already off the field and comes back during end phase. can it still negate any lightsworns at end phase?

if someone attacks my stardust assault with a light monster and activates honest and i negate it with stardust assault's ability thus sending stardust to the grave can the monster that honest acted upon still attack or not?

1) It's the same. The Turn player has priority to activate all of his effects first, before you can activate Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode's effect.
2) No. The Battle Damage stops and the monster cannot attack again.
ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 06:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

So, let's suppose there are 2 Lumina and 2 Garoth on my side of the field and Stardust Assault on my opponent's side of the field. What happens at the end phase, assuming that my opponent wants to negate the effects of each lighsworn? Bainina 10:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Let's make it clear:
(Step 1) Your End Phase approaches.
(Step 2) You (the turn player) have the priority to activate/resolve a(n) card/effect (mandatory, optional or any Spell Speed 2 or higher effect), or pass. If you activate an effect, then after the chain resolves you turn back again to step 2. If you pass move forwards to step 3.
(Step 3) Your opponent (non-turn player) has the priority to activate/resolve a(n) card/effect (mandatory, optional or any Spell Speed 2 or higher effect), or pass. If your opponent activate an effect, then after the chain resolves, turn back to step 2. If your opponent pass move forwards to step 4.
(Step 4) If you have a mandatory effect unresolved, then you must activate/resolve an effect now. After the chain ends move to step 2. If you don't have any mandatory effects unresolved move to step 5.
(Step 5) If your opponent has a mandatory effect unresolved, then he must activate/resolve an effect now. After the chain ends move to step 2. If your opponent doesn't have any mandatory effects unresolved move to step 6.
(Step 6) The End Phase ends. You discard cards due to hand size limit.
As you can see, you can apply all Lightsworns' effects at step 2, without passing to step 3 and give the change to your opponent to activate the effect of his Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode.
ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 13:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok...not that this happened to me yet or anything...but this is confusing as hell. So if I control my lightsworns...say lumina and lyla...and the effect activates which sends 3 cards to the graveyard...if I activate my effects in Step 2 can my opponent counter my effect in Step 3 or do my effects have to resolve before priority can pass to my opponent? 137.104.83.207 20:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Basically, your opponent cannot activate a "during the End Phase" effect (like the Special Summoning of "Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode") until you allow him.
You activate the effect of "Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner". Your opponent chains the effect of "Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode" to negate the effect of and destroy "Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner".
Afterwards, you are the Turn Player, so you can activate one of your effects before the opponent can activate one of his. You can activate the effect of "Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress", and it will resolve properly.
Afterwards, you are the Turn Player, so you can activate one of your effects before the opponent can activate one of his. You decide to pass, and allow your opponent to activate the effect of "Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode".
--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 21:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)