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==Emporer of the Mausoleum==
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*Can I use [[Mausoleum of the Emperor]] to tribute summon Obelisk or do I need three monsters?  [[User:Azure Knight-Zeo|Azure Knight-Zeo]] 04:15, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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== Obelisk's Effect ==
  
:You cannot.  "[[Obelisk the Tormentor]]" can only be Normal Summoned by a Tribute Summon with three Tributes. "[[Mausoleum of the Emperor]]" would Normal Summon it with no Tributes, which is not allowed.  --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 19:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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In the Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship 2009 game, you can Tribute 2 monsters to activate Obelisk's effect to destroy all opponent's monsters. The downside is that you cannot attack with it that turn. However, I Tributed a monster and Obelisk to destroy opponent's monsters, then played Monster Reborn to bring it back! I was able to attack with it and dish out 4,000 points of Direct Damage! I think since Obelisk has left the field and came back, the restriction was lifted and you can attack (or use it's effect again to get rid of Fluff Tokens).
  
when you summon obelisk the tormentor would bottomless trap hole work on him, also could you tell me what other cards would work on him? {{Unsigned|99.23.237.186|01:01, November 22, 2009}}
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Anyway, does this ruling work in the real TCG? Maybe we could add it to the page.[[User:Mark Mares|Mark Mares]] ([[User talk:Mark Mares|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mark Mares|contribs]]) 06:23, October 31, 2010 (UTC)
  
:Bottomless Trap Hole [[Target|targets]], so it '''cannot''' be used on Obelisk. Things that don't target (like Mirror Force, Lightning Vortex, Fissure, etc.) '''can''' destroy Obelisk. --[[User:Bluedog187|Blue]] ([[User talk:Bluedog187|Talk]]) 01:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
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:Yes, that works.  "[[Obelisk the Tormentor]]" is now considered to be a different card, so it can attack.
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:Unfortunately, we can't add it to the Card Rulings page. The Card Rulings page should only contain rules that come from Konami, and what I said doesn't (it's just derived from similar rulings & cards), so we can't add it.
  
::If you Normal Summon "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]", then "[[Bottomless Trap Hole]]" cannot be activated at all, because of the effect "'' When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated.''" of "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]".
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:Also, the Talk pages are for discussing changes & improvements to the main articleI've left this question here since you're asking about including it on the article page, but in general, you should ask your rulings questions in [[Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries|the rulings forum]].  --[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 06:13, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
::If you Special/Flip Summon "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]", then it is as Bluedog187 said.
 
 
 
::It's usually better to ask questions on [[Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries|the Forum]], since more people visit thereAlso, remember to sign your posts with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, since that automatically creates a signature for you.
 
::--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 20:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
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if i have a skygina/macro cosmos on my field obelisk will stay on the field when specail summoned cause it cannot be sent to the grave right?! {{Unsigned|93.87.115.70|November 22, 2009}}
 
 
 
does torrential tribute work on obelisk the tormentor {{Unsigned|99.23.237.186|16:35, November 22, 2009}}
 
 
 
:I'm not sure what "''skygina''" is, but while "[[Macro Cosmos]]" is active, "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]" will remove itself from play during the End Phase.  This is not a cost, so the effect will resolve and then "[[Macro Cosmos]]" will remove it from play.
 
 
 
:If you Normal Summon "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]", then "[[Torrential Tribute]]" cannot be activated at all, because of the effect "'' When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated.''" of "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]".
 
:If you Special/Flip Summon "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]", then "[[Torrential Tribute]]" can be activated and will destroy "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]".  "[[Torrential Tribute]]" does not [[target]], so "[[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]]" is not protected.
 
 
 
:It's usually better to ask questions on [[Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries|the Forum]], since more people visit thereAlso, remember to sign your posts with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, since that automatically creates a signature for you.
 
:--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 20:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
== obelisk summon ruling ==
 
 
 
'''can you use kaiser seahorse as 2 of the three tributes when summoning him do to kaiser seahorses effect of being 2 tributes for a light monster summon or does he only count as one? email me at [email protected] id like to know asap thanks'''Bold text''''''''Italic text''
 

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Obelisk's Effect[edit]

In the Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship 2009 game, you can Tribute 2 monsters to activate Obelisk's effect to destroy all opponent's monsters. The downside is that you cannot attack with it that turn. However, I Tributed a monster and Obelisk to destroy opponent's monsters, then played Monster Reborn to bring it back! I was able to attack with it and dish out 4,000 points of Direct Damage! I think since Obelisk has left the field and came back, the restriction was lifted and you can attack (or use it's effect again to get rid of Fluff Tokens).

Anyway, does this ruling work in the real TCG? Maybe we could add it to the page.Mark Mares (talkcontribs) 06:23, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that works. "Obelisk the Tormentor" is now considered to be a different card, so it can attack.
Unfortunately, we can't add it to the Card Rulings page. The Card Rulings page should only contain rules that come from Konami, and what I said doesn't (it's just derived from similar rulings & cards), so we can't add it.
Also, the Talk pages are for discussing changes & improvements to the main article. I've left this question here since you're asking about including it on the article page, but in general, you should ask your rulings questions in the rulings forum. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 06:13, November 6, 2010 (UTC)