Forum:Bird of Roses - Synchro Turbo

Well, I was looking at Luna's cards, and had a brainstorm upon discovering Bird of Roses. Here it is, the great Bird of Roses Turbo Synchro Deck!

Please, read and comment. I really want the deck to be viable. Thank you!!! PHASE (talk • contribs) 23:59, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad, but if you add Twilight Rose Knight, you can Synchro Summon a Lv7 right off the bat. Also, I thought Black Rose Dragon was limited? Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 00:53, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, THAT wasn't suposed to be at two... I was trying to put Ancinet Fairy Dragon at 3 and Black Rose Dragon at 1, since BRD IS in fact Limited, but I guess I skewed it somehow. It's fixed now, thanks for pointing that out.

Hm, Twilight Rose Knight... I don't know. The problem with adding is that I'd either have to remove a non-Tuner, which would make the deck's Tuner/non-Tuner ratio a little overwhelming for the Tuner side, or remove a Tuner, which might skew Bird of Roses' flexibility since in and of itself it's a Warrior rather than a Plant. And I can't ditch an S/T for it, they're all essential for the flow of the strategy... but I'll think about it, it might be a useful idea to switch out Copy Plant for it, or side-deck it. Thanks, Drew-Gi-Oh! PHASE (talk • contribs) 02:38, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Spore? At 3? No no no no no. Keep him at one. Did you notice that ANY Spore can only be used once per duel? That means, if you have all 3 in Grave and use up one, the rest get nulled. You already used a "Spore" this game.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 02:56, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

OH! I thought it just meant that each of the Spore's had 1 use each. Very well; I'll switch 2 of them out; 1 for a Copy Plant, but what about the other? Should I replace one with Twilight Rose Knight, or a Plant Tuner? Which one? But thanks for telling me about that particular ruling Akiza; otherwise I'd have been in trouble! 96.48.20.101 (talk) 03:10, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, wasn't logged in PHASE (talk • contribs) 03:17, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

... no Lonefire Blossom? Runer5h (talk • contribs) 03:27, July 19, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

I suppose a Level 2 might screw with the Synchros, but he'd be a useful sidedecker. Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 03:42, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

...Oh god, totally blanked on Lonefire! I am STUPID when it comes to Plants... But after reading the Blossom, I realized something. Its effect can use other monsters as Tributes for the cost. Which means that if I add it, I could do THIS:

• Have Bird of Roses in play somehow.

• Suicide it into a bigger monster

• Summon any two Plant Tuners, so long as 1 is Level Two

• Summon Lonefire Blossom

• Tribute a Plant Tuner that isn't the Level Two and summon a Level Four Plant

• Synchro into Mist Wurm or Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier!

Thanks, Runer! Now I have an excuse to add those Synchroes! PHASE (talk • contribs) 05:02, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Synchronized Realm = Bad. Synchros are worth more than 500 damage, and the card isn't exactly viable as a win condition. Staples? = Good. MST/Heavy Storm/Trunade should work.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 14:43, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I tested the card out and found it near-USELESS... I only had them in there to deal with the bonus my oppoent's get from Savage Colosseum, but the only times it was even significant, I ended up in a situation that I didn't need it to win. I'll take 1 out for a Lonefire Blossom, 1 for a MST, and 1 for a Trunade. PHASE (talk • contribs) 16:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Now that you have Lonefire, I recommend removing Violet Witch for a set of regular Inmatos. They provide more options when his little cousin is destroyed in Battle. You could also remove a Naturia Rosewhip for a single Allure of Darkness, for speed.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 16:28, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

All right - I've added 3 Lonefire Blossom to the lineup, which I think makes adding in some Level Nine Synchroes reasonable. Thus, I've sacrificed 1 Ancient Fairy Dragon and 1 Stardust Dragon in order to add 1 Mist Wurm and 1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier. I finalized the removal of my second Spore to help make room, along with the Gigantic Cephalotus and a Synchronized Realm. The other 2 Synchronized Realm cards, which I found utterly useless and have been openly turned down by others, including Akiza'sRose66, have been removed in favor of Mystical Space Typhoon and Giant Trunade. Please, if anyone has more suggestions, keep them coming! PHASE (talk • contribs) 16:36, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lonefire Blossom is Semi-Limited as of March 2010.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 16:41, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, must have checked the wrong list! I feel like such a newbie. Anyway, I'm not sure if I should remove the Witches, because they're my only means of quickly searching out the Bird to my hand, who in turn is part of what starts the engine up. Anyway, if Lonefire's Semi'd, then I'll definitely switch 1 for an Inmato, because I can easily make some quick Synchroes with him and Cherry Inmato. But I don't know what to take out for another one or two... Maybe Copy Plant? I don't know... I'll try to fit him in. Allure sounds interesting, but I'm not adding unless I can fit three Inmatoes. As always, thanks for the advice, and keep it coming! PHASE (talk • contribs) 16:50, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

All right, more edits. I replaced 1 Naturia Rosewhip, 1 Pot of Duality, 1 Lonefire Blossom (since I found out that it is Semi'd) and 1 Copy Plant for 3 Inmato and, with a good number of targets in the Deck now, I added Allure of Darkness. Again, thanks and keep the suggestions coming! PHASE (talk • contribs) 17:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

With the Unlimiting of Black Rose Dragon, I'm replacing Black-Winged Dragon with a second BRD. 71.197.195.145 (talk) 17:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Have replaced Copy Plant with Grow Up Bulb. PHASE (talk • contribs) 00:33, August 30, 2010 (UTC)