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There is no such thing as a "true" misprint or any other of that kind many have been incorrectly using in the past.
To anyone still not understanding the differences of misprint definitions here is a brief explanation:
In order not The actual terms come from the fact that the first production errors that affected a significant amount of the production run (in most cases the entire run) were publicly admitted by Konami/Upperdeck in official statements, thus making those misprints official. The reason for that was to confuse people notify customers about what is and what isnthose errors since withdrawing the production would be a bad financial decision. There was an exception that was the infamous "corrected art" Dark Paladin from the 1st edition Magician't a misprint please refer s Force which they sent replacements of in exchange for copies of the DMG art Dark Paladin mailed back to them . The reason for that particular instance being was that they wanted to use the alternative art to this article promote the release of the Duel Masters Guide's instead . Using both arts in the same set would be a bad move as well, so they had to pull those cards back. On the other hand, the production defects during the printing process were subjected to a quality control. Since the defective product was discarded there was no need to admit anything because the errors affected a very small part of stating the production run that slipped through their hands, thus making those misprints unofficial. Not all production defects count as misprints though, that's why the Misprint page was created to clarify what counts and what is doesn't count as a 'true' or 'untrue' misprint. Those definitions are outdated and incorrect. Before editing explain the difference between the definitions please consult with people who trade and sell misprints internationallytwo types. Like some of those people  I have 10+ years of collecting them from in all over the worldlanguages, so if any of you have questions, please ask here in the talk pageand I would be glad to help.[[User:Fensterhoff|Fensterhoff]] ([[User talk:Fensterhoff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fensterhoff|contribs]]) 1901:4713, October 27April 11, 2015‎ 2016 (UTC)
== Neo-Daedalus ==
Would Neo-Daedalus go in here? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 12:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] 12:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
A: The original first edition Neo daedalus was announced on UDE's website as an official misprint.<small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Lobbot|Lobbot]] ([[User talk:Lobbot|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lobbot|contribs]]) 01:54, August 12, 2009''</small>
== two mouth darkruler ==
i bought two two mouth darkrulers just to prove to everyone that this is a misprint... it is considered a dinosaur monster... but one of the ones i have is a dragon. im just wondering if this is a misprint?{{unsigned|67.163.186.239| 09:16, January 6, 2009‎}} A: This card received an official [[errata]] 10 years ago. It is not a misprint. You can read the main article Errata to understand the difference between misprint and errata. <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Lobbot|Lobbot]] ([[User talk:Lobbot|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lobbot|contribs]]) 01:54, August 12, 2009''</small>
AA2: This Just because a card received an official [[errata]] 10 years agowas Errata'd doesn't mean it wasn't a misprint. It is not In this particular case (same as with the French Gearfried the Swordmaster) the initial TCG release had a misprintdesign error. You The decision to make it a Dragon was not deliberate because if you know Japanese you can read tell that the main article Errata to understand OCG versions are Dinosaur type. If the decision was deliberate, then that would have made the card NOT misprinted (as the difference between misprint case with Trial of Hell/Nightmare and errataDark Assassin/Assailant).[[User:Fensterhoff|Fensterhoff]] ([[User talk:Fensterhoff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fensterhoff|contribs]]) 03:45, April 11, 2016 (UTC)
== Obelisk the Tormentor ==
my card has the word "winds" spelled "wihds"... good card? bad card? <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Dbd6660|Dbd6660]] ([[User talk:Dbd6660|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dbd6660|contribs]]) 23:16, January 18, 2009‎''</small>
A: It's one of the spelling mistakes that does not counts as misprints.<small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Lobbot|Lobbot]] ([[User talk:Lobbot|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lobbot|contribs]]) 01:54, August 12, 2009''</small>
It might be counterfeit. Most counterfeit cards have spelling mistakes. Can you add more info about the card?--[[User:MasterMarik|MasterMarik]] ([[User talk:MasterMarik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MasterMarik|contribs]]) 00:09, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
A: There was a time (10-12 years ago) when Upperdeck and Konami had separated marketing regions. Each region was denoted by an additional code letter placed before the card's name. "E" stands for Europe. You got an European card, that's all. Do a search, the entire European set is posted here. European cards usually are worth 20-30% less than their American equivalent.
** Complete and utter bollocks. The cards are worth the same since they reprinted the missing cards. When the TCG was licensed by Upper Deck Entertainment, the cards were given separate Tournament-legal status on a per-region basis. Initially, you could not use American-printed cards in European Tournaments, and vice versa. This was corrected in short order. As far as legality is concerned, MRD-E103 and MRD-103 are both the correct Set ID for the card in question.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 14:00, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
== What kind of misprint is this? ==
:I don't know about your Thousand Dragon, but the Gaia is an [[Secret Ultra Rare]]. Whether it's actually worth any more depends on whether all the LOB Gaias were misprinted like that, and if not, how many were. <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080;">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 02:09, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
:One of the other admins pointed me to [[:File:ThousandDragon-MRD-EN-ScR-UE-MISPRINT.png]], though again I don't know if it's worth any more than its non-misprinted counterpart. <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080;">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 18:41, December 5, 2013 (UTC) == Gearfried the Swordmaster =="Gearfried the Swordmaster" from the 1st edition French Flaming Eternity was printed as a Dragon instead of a Warrior. This mistake required the template to be changed with a correct one after the mistake was noticed, that's why the error was fixed later. It is considered an official misprint due to the printing plate containing a design error made before the plates were manufactured, resulting in the whole set having the same error which went unacknowledged and was recognized only when it was reported after the product shipped out. Even if it wasn't an official misprint that still is not a reason to remove the 'misprinted' description from the Card Gallery. When browsing through the Gallery people should know that is the wrong version of the card.[[User:Fensterhoff|Fensterhoff]] ([[User talk:Fensterhoff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fensterhoff|contribs]]) 01:35, April 11, 2016 (UTC)  == Official misprints ==So you're saying that an "official" misprint is an error in a printing plate that ends up affecting a bunch of cards during its printing run? Still, I think it'd be worth it to have a separate section showing pictures of the cards that are not misprints, such as the few cards that are cut badly, have their name printed in the wrong place, have no artwork (instead having that weird rainbow coloration), etc. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 02:32, April 11, 2016 (UTC) :Yes, as a rule of thumb it could be put that way. But it wouldn't be always true because of some exceptions. Also how does one determine what part of the whole set the printing run affects? We can't tell with certainty. But as in everything else, understanding comes best with experience. The way I determined that was by taking notice of how many of the same misprint I come by. :Unfortunately there is no foolproof way to prove what I say. Your best guess would be learning more about the printing process. Sometimes I can tell if a misprint is unofficial even when I haven't seen the card yet. People post about what they pulled and by their description I know there is no way that type of misprint could have been created by design. Also when I see a complicated error that requires too many conditions to be met at once I know for sure that is not a unique misprint, then I deliberately go and search for other copies to confirm my assumption. :You're right about the separate section, I will add more examples and photos to the main page later. As long as others don't object to those actions in fear of overloading the page with photos. [[User:Fensterhoff|Fensterhoff]] ([[User talk:Fensterhoff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fensterhoff|contribs]]) 03:21, April 11, 2016 (UTC) ==Necro Gardna==I wanted to ask a thing related to Necro Gardna, since I want to know so badly the time I put my hand on this card. The italian version effect of this card from Gold Series 2009 says: "''...per annullare 1 attacco questo turno''", which directly translates in: "''...to negate 1 attack this turn''". Looking at the english version, this effect is always written as "''...to negate 1 attack this turn''", but in the italian version it got corrected in "''...to negate 1 attack '''in''' this turn''" (in italian, of course). Does it count as an official misprint? --'''''[[User:Osvaldatore|Osvaldatore]]''''' :Hello fellow italian, no, that isn't a misprint, just a typo. --[[User:XBrain130|XBrain130™]]「[[User talk:XBrain130|{{Ruby|X|エックス}}ブレーン130]]」 20:52, June 8, 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks, this struggled me for months.--'''''[[User:Osvaldatore|Osvaldatore]]'''''
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