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==Type==
:Not necessarily. Konami regularly uses images of cards without card (and sometimes even set) numbers. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 20:13, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
== OCG Name ==
I am certain it's Levice Dragon (portmanteau of "leviathan" and "vice"). Its attack is Vice Stream, Leviath doesn't even fit with the romaji and there is a [[Number C32: Marine Biting Dragon - Shark Drake Vice]]. [[User:Master D|<font color="silver" size="2px">'''Mad'''</font>]][[User talk:Master D|<font color="gold" size="2px">'''Rest'''</font>]] 18:34, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
I'm certain about this as well. Where did "Leveiss" comes from anyway? Just because of Shark Drake Veiss?? That's a '''TCG''' name -_-
Besides, Veiss makes sense for CNo. 32 because it is white. However, there's no white at all on either Shark himself or No. 17, therefore it doesn't make any sense if バイス is supposed to be Veiss. It makes much more sense if the OCG intended バイス to be Vice, not Veiss, it's just that TCG decided to go with Veiss instead.[[User:Order|Order]] ([[User talk:Order|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Order|contribs]]) 00:32, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
:It is completely white in the manga, where it originally appeared. [[Special:Contributions/190.124.165.194|190.124.165.194]] ([[User talk:190.124.165.194|talk]]) 02:16, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
== Number meaning ==
Does anyone know the meaning of this card's Number? This card being the 17th Ghost Rare was coincidental as that was after this card made its official appearance in any form. If anyone has an idea, please put it down here.[[User:Cardsknower|Cardsknower]] ([[User talk:Cardsknower|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cardsknower|contribs]]) 02:22, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:It's an obviously Trivial, so it's better off not required to put it in. So what happened to your usually "If it is wrong, I will leave it alone" pattern, Cardsknower? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 02:45, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::I never placed that number meaning in there. That was placed there way before I first edited that page. That pattern I previously did is not always done currently. This is usually if I place something people may revert or argue against. I would not put anything that was removed as it's for a good reason usually. Anyways the Number 17 in this card's number has a meaning somewhere. It will just take some time for me(or not at all).[[User:Cardsknower|Cardsknower]] ([[User talk:Cardsknower|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cardsknower|contribs]]) 05:08, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
I know it is a little out there, but what about its relation to H20?
Atomic number for Hydrogen (H) = 1
H2 = 1 x 1 = 1
Atomic number for Oxygen (O) = 16
1 + 16 = 17
[[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 05:24, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:well, that kinda does connect to water, but not exactly to Leviathan Dragon himself. I mean, Shark is not it's finite user, and it's effect does not include Water support. The 17th Ghost Rare makes a bit more sense to me.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 12:50, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:You know, the next "bad" Number introduced was Number 34, which is twice the value of 17, the first evil Number. Maybe that has something to do with it?--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 12:52, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::Also, there is Number 32:
::H2 = 1 + 1 = 2
::2 x 16 = 32
::[[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 12:55, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::You know, when you put it that way... It does sound like synchronicity.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 12:57, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:: This is going out on a limb, but this card's Number may refer to this card's Rank. If the number 17 is written and then connected together, it forms a triangle which is three-sided which refers to this card being Rank 3.[[User:Cardsknower|Cardsknower]] ([[User talk:Cardsknower|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cardsknower|contribs]]) 18:09, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::Really, it forms a triangle?! How can you sink any lower than that? Please stop trying to guess what the number is based on. The H2O theory is also out; if a Number has some meaning, then it would be one that is easily identifiable, not one that you'd need multiple equations to get to. [[Special:Contributions/190.124.165.194|190.124.165.194]] ([[User talk:190.124.165.194|talk]]) 19:34, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::::The fact it relates to H2O was very easy to spot and is very creative. What makes you think you know everything about Numbers? [[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 21:50, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::::If that's the case, it being the 17th Ghost Rare card makes the most sense, since this was the earliest to be recognized by admins.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 21:53, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::::::Well yeah, but Numbers can also have second meanings. [[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 21:56, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Has anyone of you heard of the synchronicity?--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 22:00, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, but my Clear Mind has trouble thinking what that has to do with this. [[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 22:04, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Not Synchronization, Synchronicity. It's a phenomenon that explains how seeminlgy unrelated events are connected somehow. Such as the wrong phone number someone receives that matches the lottery numbers for the jackpot. Or the rambling of a drunk person to inspire a sidewalking individual to reconsider an important decision that has absoluetely nothing to do with the rambling. I believe the fair explanation would be "A butterfly flaps it's wings, and causes a storm on the other side of the world". My point is, there might have been only one meaning for each Number in the beginning, but people have been finding various others, with may or may not be coincidental. And the more meanings does a Number gather, the greater does it's concept become.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 22:10, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::That all makes sense. But just to clarify, Clear Mind is also called Perfect Synchronicity. [[User:NMBRHNTR64|NMBRHNTR64]] ([[User talk:NMBRHNTR64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NMBRHNTR64|contribs]]) 22:14, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
