Editing Forum:Morphtronic/Genex/Genex Ally/R-Genex Deck - Opinions?

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With the advent of HA04, I've been toying with the idea of mashing up the best of the Morphtronics with the best of the Genex/Genex Ally/R-Genex's.  I think, considering the summoning engines for both, that this could create some very fast synchro summons, but this could just as easily clutter the deck and kill it off with so many things going on.  I don't really have any specific deck list because I don't want to throw too much effort into the deck if it won't work.  Any thoughts, opinions, suggestions, etc. on this deck idea?

[[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 00:47, April 23, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz

:R-Genex are actually able to work pretty well on their own, (with [[Ultimate Offering]]), and with a few [[Genex Ally Birdman]] stuck in for good measure, might work as a deck. However, [[Morphtronic]] require too many of their own cards to be eaisly merged, due to [[Morphtronic Celfon]] being the main searcher :3-09:59, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yah, I was starting to think that the more I looked into it... Ok, so what about an R-Genex/Genex Ally deck?  I'm kind of new to them, and while I've looked at all the cards in each archetype, I don't really know how one would go about building out that deck. [[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 13:52, April 23, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz

If you go through with that, I have a Monster for you. [[Genex Ally Duradark]]. Nuff said. [[User:MachinaMan|MachinaMan]] ([[User talk:MachinaMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MachinaMan|contribs]]) 18:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yah, I'd definitely be going for a [[Genex Ally Duradark]] or two.  I don't know what else I would use in that deck though.  I'm kind of new to the Genex's, but they seem like they could be fun and pack a bit of a punch.
[[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 18:59, April 23, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz

:I made a Deck of that nature. Here's an overview:

: "[[R-Genex Accelerator]]" can Special Summon a "[[Genex]]" monster added to your hand, whether by draw or by a searching effect like "[[Genex Neutron]]". However, none of the "Genex" monsters can Special Summon themselves from the hand except "[[R-Genex Oracle|Oracle]]", and "Accelerator" can only survive for any length of time in Defense Position. You can use cards like "[[Hand Destruction]]" and "[[Card Destruction]]" to provide this card with targets quickly, but you can't use effects that activate in the Damage Step like "[[Sangan]]".

: Most of the "[[Genex Ally]]" monsters are splashable in other specific archetypes. You won't find much help there. "[[Genex Ally Triarm|Triarm]]" and "[[Genex Ally Triforce|Triforce]]" aren't too useful unless you're using [[Worms]]. On the other hand, "Duradark" is cool in the Side Deck, and "[[Genex Ally Axel|Axel]]", who can be made with "Genex Controller" and [[CyDra]], is terrific for repeated Synchro Summons.

: On a separate note, have you considered [[Karakuri]] [[Genex]]?


Do you have any kind of deck list that I could look at to get a basic idea of what a Genex/R-Genex/Genex Ally build looks like?  I think the only way I'm going to really get what kinds of things you're talking about is if I can see the entire deck together.  And I haven't, mainly because I don't really like the Karakuris.  They change positions more often and more uncontrollably than Morphtronic, so I'm very tentative about using them at all.  [[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 17:17, April 24, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz

:I made a Deck here. I would just copy and paste it in if it weren't archived, preventing me from accessing the Deck recipe. Just a sec:

    {{Decklist|United Kingdom Genex
|color = navy
|color2 = white; font-size:15pt; font-family:Times New Roman
|monsters = 22
* 3 [[R-Genex Accelerator]]
* 3 [[R-Genex Turbo]]
* 2 [[R-Genex Crusher]]
* 3 [[Genex Neutron]]
* 3 [[Genex Controller]]
* 2 [[Genex Recycled]]
* 1 [[Genex Spare]]
* 2 [[Genex Searcher]]
* 3 [[Cyber Dragon]]
<u>Extra Deck</u>
* 1 [[Windmill Genex]] (7)
* 1 [[Black Rose Dragon]] (7)
* 3 [[Genex Ally Axel]] (8)
* 1 [[Vindikite R-Genex]] (8)
* 1 [[Locomotion R-Genex]] (9)
* 2 [[Ally of Justice Catastor]] (5)
* 2 [[Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”]] (7)
* 2 [[Chimeratech Fortress Dragon]] (8)
* 2 [[Chimeratech Overdragon]] (9)
|spells = 15
<u>Particular to this Deck</u>
* 3 [[Solidarity]] 
<u>Support</u>
* 2 [[Hand Destruction]]
* 1 [[Limiter Removal]]
* 2 [[Overload Fusion]]
* 1 [[Mystical Space Typhoon]]
<u>Staple</u>
* 2 [[My Body as a Shield]]
* 1 [[Book of Moon]]
* 1 [[Giant Trunade]]
* 1 [[Monster Reborn]]
* 1 [[Dark Hole]]
|traps = 3
* [[Royal Decree]]
}}
* This is [[Solidarity|United]] [[Royal Decree|Kingdom]] Genex. Note the odd "Black Rose Dragon", used for a field wipe before a [[Chimeratech OTK]].
 [[User:Designless Square|Designless Square]] ([[User talk:Designless Square|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Designless Square|contribs]]) 00:46, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I like this build a lot.  The only reservation I have is the three [[Solidarity|Solidarities]].  If you were to replace those three with other cards, what would you pick?   And I'm US, so I think [[Cyber Dragon]] is knocked down to two.  What would you replace one of them with?
[[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 04:00, April 25, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz

:CyDra's been Unlimited in TCG and OCG for a year. Remember what I mentioned about "R-Genex Accelerator" being painfully frail? That's the problem "Solidarity" solves. Without it, you'll need other ways of keeping it alive, I think. My suggested replacement would be "[[Fighting Spirit]]" or "[[Forbidden Lance]]". If you want to cut "Solidarity", also remove "My Body as a Shield", since battle will take precedence over destruction as your leading cause of death, and splash in some fruity staple Synchros like "[[Brionac]]" and "[[Stardust Dragon|Stardust]]". ("Brionac" = CyDra + "Recycled".)
 [[User:Designless Square|Designless Square]] ([[User talk:Designless Square|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Designless Square|contribs]]) 05:08, April 25, 2011 (UTC)


Ah ok.  Alright that makes sense.  Well, the other thing I just realized that I might not like running 3 [[Genex Controller]]s.  If I was to sub one of them out, what would you suggest?  (Sorry, I just don't really enjoy running normal monsters haha.)  I'm not trying to come off as picky or anything; I'm just trying to find the best way to build this deck around my style.  [[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 13:11, April 25, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz
:[[Genex Ally Birdman]]. He's like Genex Controller, but much, much better. [[Special:Contributions/207.233.120.2|207.233.120.2]] ([[User talk:207.233.120.2|talk]]) 15:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

So kick one of of the [[Genex Controller|Controller]]s for [[Genex Ally Birdman|Birdman]]?   [[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 16:00, April 25, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz
:Kick two, actually, and Spare. Run a full set. Nothing in the Deck searches Controller directly; he's only needed for Windmill Genex, who is ballnuts, and Vindikite, who you need Windmill and Recycled to Synchro (this never, ever happens). [[Special:Contributions/207.233.120.2|207.233.120.2]] ([[User talk:207.233.120.2|talk]]) 16:14, April 25, 2011 (UTC)


Actually, I just realized [[Black Rose Dragon|BRD]] screws [[Solidarity]], so I think I'd kick that.  So, with a little bit of my own touches, it'd look something like this?
{{Decklist|Genex V2.0
|color = black
|color2 = blue
|monsters = 22
* 3 [[R-Genex Accelerator]]
* 3 [[R-Genex Turbo]]
* 2 [[R-Genex Crusher]]
* 3 [[Genex Neutron]]
* 1 [[Genex Controller]]
* 2 [[Genex Recycled]]
* 2 [[Genex Searcher]]
* 3 [[Genex Ally Birdman]]
* 1 [[Genex Ally Powercell]] - I think he'd be a decent addition to boost the Darks
* 2 [[Cyber Dragon]]
<u>Extra Deck</u>
* 3 [[Genex Ally Axel]] (8)
* 1 [[Locomotion R-Genex]] (9)
* 2 [[Ally of Justice Catastor]] (5)
* 2 [[Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 “Burei”]] (7)
* 2 [[Chimeratech Fortress Dragon]] (8)
* 2 [[Chimeratech Overdragon]] (9)
|spells = 15
* 3 [[Solidarity]] 
* 2 [[Hand Destruction]]
* 1 [[Limiter Removal]]
* 2 [[Overload Fusion]]
* 1 [[Mystical Space Typhoon]]
* 2 [[My Body as a Shield]]
* 1 [[Book of Moon]]
* 1 [[Giant Trunade]]
* 1 [[Monster Reborn]]
* 1 [[Dark Hole]]
|traps = 3
* [[Royal Decree]]
}}
And considering the [[Cyber Dragon]]s might be hard to come by (I currently possess none), what could I use in replacement (monsters that take the name [[Cyber Dragon]])?  [[User:OmegaB1Gz|OmegaB1Gz]] ([[User talk:OmegaB1Gz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OmegaB1Gz|contribs]]) 18:01, April 25, 2011 (UTC)OmegaB1Gz
:"Cyber Dragon" is an amazing card. Without it, bouncing back is harder and Synchros are slower. The only other cards that can take its name are "[[Cyber Dragon Zwei]]", who's OK but not noteworthy, and "[[Proto-Cyber Dragon]]", who can't be abused with "Overload Fusion". If you can't get CyDra, good luck Summoning Level 8 Synchros.
:The purpose of "Black Rose Dragon" is to wipe the field directly before using "Overload Fusion" for massive, fatal damage with "Chimeratech Overdragon". You neither need "Solidarity" at that point nor should you use "Black Rose Dragon" without "Overload Fusion" in your hand.
:As for "Genex Ally Powercell", he's outclassed by a card that's been out for years ("[[Genex Turbine]]"), and I wouldn't recommend either because they aren't better than "Solidarity". Most of the [[Genex Ally|Genex Allies]] are designed for other Archetypes, like "[[Genex Ally Crusher|Crusher]]" in [[Blackwings]]. I assume you own "Powercell"?
 [[User:Designless Square|Designless Square]] ([[User talk:Designless Square|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Designless Square|contribs]]) 19:12, April 25, 2011 (UTC)