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| − | i need help building a 40 card deck, these are the cards i have to build it with,i also got more cards than these give sugestion i might have those cards or am able to get
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| − | {{Decklist| Deck | + | {{Decklist|Warrior Deck |
| − | |effect monsters = | + | |color = orange |
| − | * [[Twin-Sword Marauder]] | + | |color2 = white |
| − | * [[Mystical Knight of Jackal]] | + | |monsters = |
| − | * [[Mask of Darkness]] | + | <u>Effect Monsters</u> |
| − | * [[Reptilianne Medusa]] | + | * [[TWIN-SWORD MARAUDER]] |
| − | * [[Chiron the Mage]] | + | * [[MYSTICAL KNIGHT OF JACKAL]] |
| − | * [[Destiny HERO - Defender]] | + | * [[MASK OF DARKNESS]] |
| − | * [[Guardian Angel Joan]] | + | * [[REPTILIANNE MEDUSA]] |
| − | * [[Blast Sphere]] | + | * [[CHIRON THE MAGE]] |
| − | * [[Card Guard]] | + | * [[DESTINY HERO - DEFENDER]] |
| − | * [[Cyber Valley]] | + | * [[GUARDIAN ANGEL JOAN]] |
| − | * [[Cyber Valley]] | + | * [[BLAST SPHERE]] |
| − | * [[Spirit Reaper]] | + | * [[CARD GUARD]] |
| − | * [[Old Vindictive Magician]] | + | * [[CYBER VALLEY]] |
| − | * [[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6]] | + | * [[CYBER VALLEY]] |
| − | * [[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6]] | + | * [[SPIRIT REAPER]] |
| − | * [[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]] | + | * [[OLD VINDICTIVE MAGICIAN]] |
| − | * [[The Tricky]] | + | * [[HORUS THE BLACK FLAME DRAGON LV6]] |
| − | * [[Cyber Dragon]] | + | * [[HORUS THE BLACK FLAME DRAGON LV6]] |
| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]] | + | * [[HORUS THE BLACK FLAME DRAGON LV8]] |
| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]] | + | * [[THE TRICKY]] |
| − | * [[Delta Flyer]] | + | * [[CYBER DRAGON]] |
| − | * [[Fire Ant Ascator]] | + | * [[XX-SABER FULHELMKNIGHT]] |
| − | * [[Junk Synchron]] | + | * [[XX-SABER FULHELMKNIGHT]] |
| − | * [[Junk Synchron]] | + | * [[DELTA FLYER]] |
| − | * [[Gorz the Emissary of Darkness]] | + | * [[FIRE ANT ASCATOR]] |
| − | * [[Wall of Illusion]] | + | * [[JUNK SYNCHRON]] |
| − | * [[Sangan]] | + | * [[JUNK SYNCHRON]] |
| − | * [[Black Luster Soldier]] | + | * [[GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS]] |
| − | * [[Breaker the Magical Warrior]] | + | * [[WALL OF ILLUSION]] |
| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]] | + | * [[SANGAN]] |
| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]] | + | * [[CHAOS SORCERAR]] |
| − | * [[Krebons]] | + | * [[BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR]] |
| − | * [[Snipe Hunter]] | + | * [[D.D. WARRIOR LADY]] |
| − | * [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]] | + | * [[D.D. WARRIOR LADY]] |
| − | * [[White-Horned Dragon]] | + | * [[KREBONS]] |
| − | * [[Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer]] | + | * [[SNIPE HUNTER]] |
| − | * [[Phantom of Chaos]] | + | * [[NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE]] |
| − | * [[Copycat]] | + | * [[WHITE HORNED DRAGON]] |
| − | | + | * [[KYCOO THE GHOST DESTROYER]] |
| − | | synchro monsters =
| + | * [[PHANTOM OF CHAOS]] |
| − | * [[Ally of Justice Field Marshal]] | + | * [[COPYCAT]] |
| − | * [[Colossal Fighter]] | + | <u>Syncro Monsters</u> |
| − | * [[Sun Dragon Inti]] | + | * [[ALLY OF JUSTICE FIELD MARSHAL]] |
| − | * [[Black-Winged Dragon]] | + | * [[COLOSSAL FIGHTER]] |
| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]] | + | * [[SUN DRAGON INTI]] |
| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]] | + | * [[BLACK-WINGED DRAGON]] |
| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]] | + | * [[SCRAP ARCHFIEND]] |
| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]] | + | * [[SCRAP ARCHFIEND]] |
| − | * [[X-Saber Wayne]] | + | * [[GAIA KNIGHT, THE FORCE OF EARTH]] |
| − | * [[Junk Warrior]] | + | * [[GAIA KNIGHT, THE FORCE OF EARTH]] |
| | + | * [[X-SABER WAYNE]] |
| | + | * [[JUNK WARRIOR]] |
| | |spells = | | |spells = |
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| | * [[Monster Reborn]] | | * [[Monster Reborn]] |
| − | * [[A Feather of the Phoenix]] | + | * [[A FEATHER OF THE PHOENIX]] |
| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]] | + | * [[NOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUT]] |
| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]] | + | * [[NOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUT]] |
| − | * [[Book of Moon]] | + | * [[BOOK OF MOON]] |
| − | * [[Book of Moon]] | + | * [[BOOK OF MOON]] |
| − | * [[Card Trader]] | + | * [[CARD TRADER]] |
| − | * [[Shrink]] | + | * [[SHRINK]] |
| − | * [[Megamorph]] | + | * [[MEGAMORPH]] |
| − | * [[Mage Power]] | + | * [[MAGE POWER]] |
| − | * [[Dark Hole]] | + | * [[DARK HOLE]] |
| − | * [[Monster Reincarnation]] | + | * [[MONSTER REINCARNATION]] |
| − | * [[Mystical Space Typhoon]] | + | * [[MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON]] |
| − | * [[Soul Exchange]] | + | * [[SOUL EXCHANGE]] |
| − | * [[Magical Mallet]] | + | * [[MAGICAL MALLET]] |
| − | * [[Smashing Ground]] | + | * [[SMASHING GROUND]] |
| − | * [[Smashing Ground]] | + | * [[SMASHING GROUND]] |
| − | * [[Different Dimension Capsule]] | + | * [[DIFFERENT DIMENSION CAPSULE]] |
| − | * [[Lightning Vortex]] | + | * [[LIGHTNING VORTEX]] |
| | |traps = | | |traps = |
| − | * [[Ordeal of a Traveler]] | + | * [[ORDEAL OF A TRAVELER]] |
| − | * [[Phoenix Wing Wind Blast]] | + | * [[PHOENIX WING WIND BLAST]] |
| − | * [[Interdimensional Matter Transporter]] | + | * [[INTERDIMESIONAL MATTER TRANSPORTER]] |
| − | * [[Waboku]] | + | * [[WABOKU]] |
| − | * [[Waboku]] | + | * [[WABOKU]] |
| − | * [[Kunai with Chain]] | + | * [[KUNAI WITH A CHAIN]] |
| − | * [[Ceasefire]] | + | * [[CEASEFIRE]] |
| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]] | + | * [[COMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE]] |
| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]] | + | * [[COMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE]] |
| − | * [[Trap Stun]] | + | * [[TRAP STUN]] |
| − | * [[Divine Wrath]] | + | * [[DIVINE WRATH]] |
| − | * [[Royal Decree]] | + | * [[ROYAL DECREE]] |
| − | * [[Magic Cylinder]] | + | * [[MAGIC CYLINDER]] |
| − | * [[Magic Cylinder]] | + | * [[MAGIC CYLINDER]] |
| − | * [[Graverobber]] | + | * [[GRAVEROBBER]] |
| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]] | + | * [[DIMENSIONAL PRISON]] |
| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]] | + | * [[DIMENSIONAL PRISON]] |
| − | * [[Reckless Greed]] | + | * [[RECKLESS GREED]] |
| − | * [[Reckless Greed]] | + | * [[RECKLESS GREED]] |
| − | * [[Reckless Greed]] | + | * [[RECKLESS GREED]] |
| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]] | + | * [[BOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE]] |
| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]] | + | * [[BOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE]] |
| − | * [[Torrential Tribute]] | + | * [[TORRENTAL TRIBUTE]] |
| − | * [[Dark Bribe]] | + | * [[DARK BRIBE]] |
| − | * [[Call of the Haunted]] | + | * [[CALL OF THE HUNTED]] |
| − | * [[Scrap-Iron Scarecrow]] | + | * [[SCRAP-IRON SCARECROW]] |
| − | * [[Scrap-Iron Scarecrow]] | + | * [[SCRAP-IRON SCARECROW]] |
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| | Your S/T are okay but not great. Also you have too many traps. Lastly, the main problem with this deck is that you are trying to do too many things at once and as a result you can't do anything properly. There is no synergy. Try to find a playing style you like and go with that. [[User:IPlay4Fun|IPlay4Fun]] ([[User talk:IPlay4Fun|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IPlay4Fun|contribs]]) 13:22, November 2, 2010 (UTC) | | Your S/T are okay but not great. Also you have too many traps. Lastly, the main problem with this deck is that you are trying to do too many things at once and as a result you can't do anything properly. There is no synergy. Try to find a playing style you like and go with that. [[User:IPlay4Fun|IPlay4Fun]] ([[User talk:IPlay4Fun|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IPlay4Fun|contribs]]) 13:22, November 2, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Actually IP4F, the non-effect syncros are good, as they follow the rule of 'bigger than a monarch/stardust dragon', especially [[Scrap Archfiend]], as it's the strongest lvl 7 with no req's, while [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]] was used as part of the [[Infernity Launcher]] OTK, due to being few good 6 star syncs that aren't limited-[[User:Resk|Resk]] ([[User talk:Resk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Resk|contribs]]) 14:05, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Ah, thank you for pointing that out. But as you can clearly see, this guy does not run Infernity Launcher OTK, skill drain, or normal monster support. Therefore those non effect synchros are of very limited use to this deck. [[User:IPlay4Fun|IPlay4Fun]] ([[User talk:IPlay4Fun|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IPlay4Fun|contribs]]) 14:35, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | -[[User:Eosp|Eosp]] ([[User talk:Eosp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eosp|contribs]]) 18:55 November 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | no this is not my deck, i need help building a 40 card deck, these are the cards i have to build it with,i also got more cards than these give sugestion i might have those cards or am able to get. and i here by apoligise if i misslead somone that i have an deck with this many cards in.
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| − | I'll see what i can do with what's listed, though i cbb fixing the links >.>
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| − | {{Decklist| Deck
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| − | |total m = 20
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| − | |effect monsters =
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Spirit Reaper]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Dragon]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[Delta Flyer]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Gorz the Emissary of Darkness]]
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| − | * [[Wall of Illusion]]
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| − | * [[Sangan]]
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| − | * [[Chaos Sorcerer]]
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| − | * [[Breaker the Magical Warrior]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[Krebons]]
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| − | * [[Snipe Hunter]]
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| − | * [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]]
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| − | * [[Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer]]
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| − | * [[Guardian Sphinx]]
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| − | |synchro monsters =
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| − | * [[Ally of Justice Field Marshal]]
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| − | * [[Colossal Fighter]]
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| − | * [[Sun Dragon Inti]]
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| − | * [[Black-Winged Dragon]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[X-Saber Wayne]]
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| − | * [[Junk Warrior]]
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| − | | total s = 9
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| − | | spells =
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| − | * [[Monster Reborn]]
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| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]]
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| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]]
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| − | * [[Book of Moon]]
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| − | * [[Book of Moon]]
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| − | * [[Dark Hole]]
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| − | * [[Mystical Space Typhoon]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | | total t = 11
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| − | | traps =
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
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| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Torrential Tribute]]
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| − | * [[Dark Bribe]]
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| − | * [[Call of the Haunted]]
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| − | Maybe?-[[User:Resk|Resk]] ([[User talk:Resk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Resk|contribs]]) 01:05, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | -[[User:Eosp|Eosp]] ([[User talk:Eosp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eosp|contribs]]) 09:27 November 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | thank you for reppling i will test it out today i will give you a review after the duel
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| − | -[[User:Eosp|Eosp]] ([[User talk:Eosp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eosp|contribs]]) 21:09 November 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Well it didn't go that well with that deck of 4 duels it lost 4, basicly most of the cards were not very efective for example i couden't summon chaos sorceror because of lack of light monsters in graveyard because i removed most of them from field before, but thank you any way because i have made a few improvments and i thinks it pretty good please rate and give advice and maybe help me slim it down a bit
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| − | {{Decklist| New Deck (50 Cards)
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| − | |total m = 33
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| − | | effect monsters =
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Spirit Reaper]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Dragon]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Dragon]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[Delta Flyer]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Gorz the Emissary of Darkness]]
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| − | * [[Wall of Illusion]]
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| − | * [[Sangan]]
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| − | * [[Chaos Sorcerer]]
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| − | * [[Breaker the Magical Warrior]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[Krebons]]
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| − | * [[Snipe Hunter]]
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| − | * [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]]
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| − | * [[Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer]]
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| − | * [[Mecha Bunny]]
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| − | * [[Mecha Bunny]]
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| − | * [[Mecha Bunny]]
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| − | * [[Quillbolt Hedgehog]]
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| − | * [[Quillbolt Hedgehog]]
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| − | * [[Copycat]]
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| − | * [[Skelengel]]
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| − | * [[Skelengel]]
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| − | * [[Marauding Captain]]
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| − | * [[Dark Resonator]]
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| − | * [[Twin-Sword Marauder]]
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| − | | synchro monsters = 8
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| − | * [[Red Dragon Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Colossal Fighter]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[X-Saber Wayne]]
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| − | * [[Junk Warrior]]
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| − | |total s = 7
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| − | | spells =
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| − | * [[Monster Reborn]]
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| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]]
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| − | * [[Book of Moon]]
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| − | * [[Dark Hole]]
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| − | * [[Mystical Space Typhoon]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | | total t = 10
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| − | | traps =
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Torrential Tribute]]
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| − | * [[Dark Bribe]]
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| − | * [[Call of the Haunted]]
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| − | Let's start off with the synchro's. They are pretty useless, you can't synchro for 3/4 of them. I suggest using brionac, black rose, uruquizas, ally of justice castor, magical android, armory arm, goyo guardian, & stardust. Next the monsters, you have WAY too many. The useless monsters are illusion wall, delta flyer, & twin sword marauder. You just have too many monsters 20 should be great and 10 spells & traps. I can't tell you what cards to use, just don't use so many. [[User:Automation44|Automation44]] ([[User talk:Automation44|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Automation44|contribs]]) 08:14, November 4, 2010 (UTC)Automation44
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| − | I don't know why but ever since I changed the skin the edit link next to most posts have disappeared...
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| − | Anyway, I find that an easy way to build a deck with a decent monster:s/t ratio is to go with 20 monsters and 10 of spell/traps, and then play with that deck for a while. After knowing which cards are less useful and such, you then tweak your deck by slighlty changing the card ratio, eg. maybe 18 monsters, 14 spells, 8 traps. [[User:IPlay4Fun|IPlay4Fun]] ([[User talk:IPlay4Fun|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IPlay4Fun|contribs]]) 11:25, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | {{Decklist| Tweaked Deck (40 Cards)
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| − | | total m = 23
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| − | | effect monsters =
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Valley]]
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| − | * [[Spirit Reaper]]
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| − | * [[Cyber Dragon]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[XX-Saber Fulhelmknight]]
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| − | * [[Delta Flyer]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Junk Synchron]]
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| − | * [[Gorz the Emissary of Darkness]]
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| − | * [[Wall of Illusion]]
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| − | * [[Sangan]]
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| − | * [[Breaker the Magical Warrior]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[D.D. Warrior Lady]]
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| − | * [[Krebons]]
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| − | * [[Snipe Hunter]]
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| − | * [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]]
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| − | * [[Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer]]
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| − | * [[Quillbolt Hedgehog]]
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| − | * [[Skelengel]]
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| − | * [[Marauding Captain]]
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| − | * [[Dark Resonator]]
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| − | | synchro monsters = 8
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| − | * [[Red Dragon Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Colossal Fighter]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Scrap Archfiend]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth]]
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| − | * [[X-Saber Wayne]]
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| − | * [[Junk Warrior]]
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| − | |total s = 7
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| − | | spells =
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| − | * [[Monster Reborn]]
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| − | * [[Nobleman of Crossout]]
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| − | * [[Book of Moon]]
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| − | * [[Dark Hole]]
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| − | * [[Mystical Space Typhoon]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | * [[Smashing Ground]]
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| − | | total t = 10
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| − | | traps =
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Waboku]]
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| − | * [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Dimensional Prison]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Bottomless Trap Hole]]
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| − | * [[Torrential Tribute]]
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| − | * [[Dark Bribe]]
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| − | * [[Call of the Haunted]]
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| − | I took out:
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| − | 3 [[Mecha Bunny]]
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| − | 1 [[Guardian Sphinx]]
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| − | 1 [[Twin Sword Marauder]]
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| − | 1 [[Copycat]]
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| − | 1 [[Skelengel]]
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| − | 1 [[Quillbolt Hedgehog]]
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| − | 1 [[Cyber Dragon]]
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| − | and 1 [[Chaos Sorcerer]]
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| − | -[[User:Eosp|Eosp]] ([[User talk:Eosp|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eosp|contribs]]) 14:39 November 4, 2010 (UTC)
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