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| − | Hi and welcome to the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' wiki! Thank you for your edit to the '''Gishki''' page. | + | Hi and welcome to the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' wiki! Thank you for your edit to the [[:Gishki]] page. |
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| | :Well he stopped now after I mentioned him possibly being blocked on his talk page, been watching the recent change pages like a hawk. | | :Well he stopped now after I mentioned him possibly being blocked on his talk page, been watching the recent change pages like a hawk. |
| | [[User:DreadKaiser|DreadKaiser]] ([[User talk:DreadKaiser|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DreadKaiser|contribs]]) 01:34, January 19, 2015 (UTC) | | [[User:DreadKaiser|DreadKaiser]] ([[User talk:DreadKaiser|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DreadKaiser|contribs]]) 01:34, January 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Quit Being a Jerkwad: Removing My Information on Infernoid Page, then Reposting Same Info ==
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| − | Hey man, listen. I don't know what your deal is, but you can quit editing out all the information I put on the Infernoid page, and then "adding" it yourself under your own name. Seriously, man. This isn't cool.
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| − | [[User:NeostheAncientOne|NeostheAncientOne]] ([[User talk:NeostheAncientOne|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NeostheAncientOne|contribs]]) 21:42, February 10, 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Hello!
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| − | I got some news: I wont stop reverting that. :D
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| − | I'm not trying to add those informations like they was under my name, Im just tryna keep the page as clear and as possible, without any unnecessary information. By "unnecessary information" I mean repetitive links and redundancy. The "Playing Style" section is meant to introduce the gameplay of the archetype, so there's no point on filling that section with long and boring strategy tips, like summoning Onuncu by the effect of Eye of the Void: the trump card of Onuncu is its ability to nuke the field, so it is not good to Summon it with that card since that effect will be negated. Also, the part that I mentioned Non-Effect monsters covers Normal monsters too.
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| − | The intricacies of the strategy of how to play Onuncu or adding Non-effect monsters is up to the player who runs an Infernoid deck. As I said before, the page is not a guide about how to build a deck, the purpose of the page is just to teach the basics and provide an introduction about how the Infernoids work, so it is not necessary to point out too many information so that the page get polluted.
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 02:06, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Please don't make this any harder than it has to be. PSY-Framelord Omega is an incredibly annoying card and people should know how to deal with it once it hits the field, don't you think? [[User:FighterofLight|FighterofLight]] ([[User talk:FighterofLight|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FighterofLight|contribs]]) 22:09, November 29, 2015 (UTC)
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| − | hmm, that seems fair! ok buddy! Sorry for that ^^
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 22:11, November 29, 2015 (UTC)
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| − | == Card Tips ==
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| − | Why are you removing so many? [[User:DrakeyC|DrakeyC]] ([[User talk:DrakeyC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DrakeyC|contribs]]) 02:38, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | Hello! I frequently make some cleanups on Tips page, for them to be more straightforward and simple. Did I remove some tip you gave and that you considered important? Sorry, I'll pay more attention and read them more carefully the next time. Yesterday I removed a "summon shooting quasar" tip from the page of Jiaotu because that was a very sluggish tip that required a very fragile setup... there are so many effective ways to drop quasar and none of them include Jiaotu, so I thought that was unnecessary. This is the kind of removal I do most of the times.
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| − | :The specific edit that caught my eye was [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Tour_Guide_From_the_Underworld?curid=265237&diff=3429575&oldid=3264185 this one], where you totally nuked plenty of valid tips, and then I saw you had done the same to many pages. [[User:DrakeyC|DrakeyC]] ([[User talk:DrakeyC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DrakeyC|contribs]]) 15:10, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :: Sorry, I should have read them more carefully. I restored some of them now; I removed them because they were too long-winded and sometimes irrelevant, for example: why would you combine your Tour Guide and the monster it summoned with Tannhauser Gate for the Xyz Summon of a Rank 6 monster? There are so many easier ways to drop a Rank 6. I also condensed the "this card is useful in X, Y and Z Decks" in a quick line, without specifications or sluggish combos ("just use it in those decks and you'll see it has synergy with them"). Regarding the other Tips pages, most of the times, I erase irrelevant tips or unlikely/sluggish combos. But from now on, I'll read more carefully before "nuking" them again xD
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 16:35, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | == Espirit Lord Hikokujaku ==
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| − | Just because it is a big neg doesn't mean it is not a good thing to do. Hikokujaku gets rid of three cards from the opponent and summons a monster. Summoning a big monster such as Tsuchi or Yamata means either depleting their hand (and getting rid of the cards you just returned) or refilling the hand you just used with a fresh set of cards. Plus the two monsters are big beaters, so you potentially have an OTK on your hands if you are able to get another monster on the field. So the 'big neg' isn't really that big, especially if you have cards that work in the graveyard. You can discard Nikitama while you have a Spirit on board to regain a card, and use it to set your hand up. You can run Pre-Prep to get the Ritual Components, and dupes can be discarded. There is bound to be more support to help this card maintain field presence, especially if they end up being higher than Level 4.
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| − | So no, I don't agree with you deleting my contribution.
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| − | [[User:Morbuss|Morbuss]] ([[User talk:Morbuss|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morbuss|contribs]]) 01:16, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :: A Mirror Force and all the cards you invested on this combo will be wasted (note that Hikokujaku doesnt bounce S/T, only monsters). The combo will suggested requires a huge investment and fragile setup and can be disrupted with any card that negates an attack or deal with Hino Kagu Tsuchi before it can attack. There are many ways of dropping Tsuchi without having to rely on Hikokujaku or losing 4 cards just to reduce its Level. This game is all about consistency and card economy; if you want to lose 4 cards just for the sake of summoning Hino Kagu Tsuchi and ''MAYBE'' resolve its hand-destruction effect, which may help your opponent rather than disrupt their strategy, depending on the Deck you are facing, you dont know how to play this game.
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 02:48, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | ::: No competent player will invest all those resources into a potentially OTKing board without first getting rid of anything that could stop them. Monster effects for example could negate Hikokujaku, which would need to be stopped first. Traps could be prevented with Royal Decree or destroyed with cards like Twin Twister. Once they have been dealt with, the combo could be used. The point I was making was that there was a '''potential''' to use a level adjusting card such as Cost Down to expand the pool of cards it has access to. Your counter argument applies to every single other combo out there. One Solemn, Effect Veiler, Torrential, BTH, they all disrupt combos and there is virtually nothing you can do about it. Saying that this combo is fragile is like saying any board in progress is fragile.
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| − | [[User:Morbuss|Morbuss]] ([[User talk:Morbuss|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morbuss|contribs]]) 10:52, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :::: That's exactly my point. Pay attention:
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| − | ::::Scenario #1: If you use [[Tribute Burial]] to Normal Summon Hino-Kagu-Tsuchi and it ends up being destroyed, banished, negated, ''whatever'', you will have lost 2 cards (Tribute Burial and Hino) (but will possibly at least have banished a powerful monster from your opponent's graveyard).
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| − | ::::Scenario #2: If you are relying on Hikokujaku and 2 [[Cost Down]]s to Summon Hino-Kagu-Tsuchi and your combo is frustrated by, say, a Torrential Tribute, you will have lost 7 cards (2 Cost Downs, the 2 cards you discarded for them, the Ritual Spell Card, Hikokujaku and Tsuchi).
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| − | ::::If you are well aware of the many ways to stop your combo but still think the strategy you suggested is feasible, you are not a competent player. There are many '''potential''' combos, but being '''potential''' doesnt make them good.
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 12:52, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Since this argument is going in circles, I'm just going to point out one thing: Espirits are getting more support, some of which could be high level Spirit monsters. There are cards which benefit from being sent to the Graveyard by any means, and there are more combos than there are people on the planet which could be deemed bad combos. Spirits are not ''and have never been'' a meta deck. They are slow, and they are hard to play. Hikokujaku allows for a big push not seen in a slow deck, and by using Cost Down they can get a bigger than normal monster out. Yes it requires a lot of resources. Yes it can be disrupted quite easily. But should you pull it off, you could render your opponent unable to answer your board, and potentially OTK them. Just because a strategy or combo is not meta, doesn't make it a bad combo that should never perform. It is meant to be a fun game. Dissing people and saying they aren't competent because they aren't only interested in meta decks is pretty disrespectful.
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| − | [[User:Morbuss|Morbuss]] ([[User talk:Morbuss|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morbuss|contribs]]) 14:07, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :::::: I just think the tips page is meant to have consistent, straightforward tips, not ~potential~ sluggish tips. Do you want a big push on a Spirit Deck? Cards that facilitate a Normal Summon of a high Level Spirit monster, like the Tribute Burial I mentioned, are way better than wasting so many resources. Forbidden Lance can even be a good choice for protecting it. Believe me, I've been playing Spirits for years. It is not about being interested in meta decks, I hate meta decks. It is about how to wisely use the cards you have in order to pressure your opponent without losing all your resources; it is not needed to be a meta-dumbass to know this. But go ahead and try to make a big push while losing all cards in your hand, no matter the outcome, with high chances of your opponent retaliating on their next turn :D
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 15:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::: Also, sorry if I was disrespectful with you.
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 15:57, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::I appreciate the apology, and I understand where you are coming from regarding the Tips page.
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| − | ::::::::The thing about using a lot of resources for a big push, they either require a lot of setup or luck. I'll give you a few examples from games I remember.
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| − | ::::::::1. Ancient Gears: My opponent went first with a Set monster and 1 Backrow (which ended up being Mirror Force). My opening five cards were Ancient Gear Golem, AG Beast, AG Engineer, Limiter Removal and Power Bond. I ended up FTKing by using Ultimate Golem and Limiter to have a 17'600 ATK monster that pierces and cannot have its attack stopped. He revealed the set Mirror Force and said it was the luckiest opening hand ever.
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| − | ::::::::2. Prior to the Dueling Network Takedown, the main deck I ran was Super Quantums. My main goal was to summon Magnas and just wail on the opponent as fast as possible. I had 3 Reasoning, 3 E-Tele and I ran the layers in threes as well. To mitigate the cost of summoning Magnas, I also ran the Bamboo Sword Draw Engine, using 2 Broken, 3 Golden and 3 Cursed. Cursed worked very well in the deck as it never missed timing, so I was always able to search a card, whether it was milled from the effect of Reasoning or pitched for the effect of Magnacarrier. Aside from a lot of draw cards, I was able to maintain consistency because I could discard cards that benefited from being discarded. Using the Bamboo engine in the Spirit Deck lets you mitigate the high cost of summoning a high level spirit that way.
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| − | [[User:Morbuss|Morbuss]] ([[User talk:Morbuss|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morbuss|contribs]]) 23:07, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
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| − | == Switching to a new account ==
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| − | Are you [[User:GustaphMax]]? If that's the case, then before you switch accounts, you might want to use [[Special:Contact]] to report the problem you've been having. If it ends up getting fixed but you still want to change your account name, Wikia staff has the power to change it. Also, I'd prefer if you responded to this message with your Annoying Orange account, just to confirm. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:52, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | Hello! Yes, I am [[User:GustaphMax]]! I would like SO MUCH to keep this account with that new name, because I want to keep my contributions log... Also, I already changed this account name once... It is possible to change it once again?!
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 22:31, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | For some strange reason I'm not recieving notifications e-mail anymore. I tried to change to another one, but I didnt recieve the confirmation e-mail. Then, I tried to switch to the first e-mail, but I didnt recieve the confirmation e-mail as well.
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 22:35, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | :From [[w:Help:Changing your username|Help:Changing your username]]: "''you are allowed to '''change your username'''. This can be done '''once''' and only once.''". <span class="nowrap">[[User:Becasita|Becasita]] <sup><small>Pendulum</small></sup></span> <span class="nowrap">([[User talk:Becasita|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Becasita|contribs]])</span> 22:42, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | :: Yep, I knew that. And that's why I decided to definitely abandon this account. I got tired of this name and wanted an account with a more fitting one... If an exception could be make, that would be [[Toadally Awesome]]! xD
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 22:47, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | :::Idk if there can be an exception made, since your account's last rename was pretty recent (about 3-4 years ago). However, it's also possible to change your signature instead, to reflect that new username. You'd still use "Annoying Orange" to sign in though, and everyone will still see your edits as "Annoying Orange" along with your User page.
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| − | :::It still doesn't hurt to ask anyway. And like I said, if you want to keep this account, use that Contact form to tell Wikia staff about your notification problem. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 23:37, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Welp. I sent them a message. Lets wait for it. :B
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| − | [[User:Annoying Orange|Annoying Orange]] ([[User talk:Annoying Orange|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Annoying Orange|contribs]]) 00:04, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
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