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i would just like an answer regarding this situation from a recognized person please and thank you... [[User:Kearowind|Kearowind]] ([[User talk:Kearowind|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kearowind|contribs]]) 15:44, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | i would just like an answer regarding this situation from a recognized person please and thank you... [[User:Kearowind|Kearowind]] ([[User talk:Kearowind|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kearowind|contribs]]) 15:44, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | ||
| − | [[Stardust Dragon]] can still negate the effects of a card that doesn't destroy right away. The important part is whether or not the effect starts a chain when it actually tries to destroy cards. | + | [[Stardust Dragon]] can still negate the effects of a card that doesn't destroy right away. The important part is whether or not the effect '''starts a chain when it actually tries to destroy cards'''. |
For example, from the ruling of [[Ancient Forest]]: | For example, from the ruling of [[Ancient Forest]]: | ||
:"''The effect "if a monster attacks, it is destroyed at the end of the Battle Phase" of "Ancient Forest" activates and starts a Chain."'' | :"''The effect "if a monster attacks, it is destroyed at the end of the Battle Phase" of "Ancient Forest" activates and starts a Chain."'' | ||
Since it starts a chain, [[Stardust Dragon]] can still negate it. The same goes for [[Ekibyo Drakmord]] '''in the OCG'' because its effect starts a chain. However, '''in the TCG''' the effect of [[Ekibyo Drakmord]] does not start a chain. Therefore, in the TCG, Stardust Dragon cannot negate its effects.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|<span style="border:3px inset blue;"> HHTurtle </span>]] [[User_talk:Hide Head Turtle|(Talk)]] 15:51, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | Since it starts a chain, [[Stardust Dragon]] can still negate it. The same goes for [[Ekibyo Drakmord]] '''in the OCG'' because its effect starts a chain. However, '''in the TCG''' the effect of [[Ekibyo Drakmord]] does not start a chain. Therefore, in the TCG, Stardust Dragon cannot negate its effects.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|<span style="border:3px inset blue;"> HHTurtle </span>]] [[User_talk:Hide Head Turtle|(Talk)]] 15:51, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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i was pretty sure that Stardust could not negate the effects of existing spell cards that destroy something. He could only negate the effect of a spell card at Activation if it destroyed something., Since Ancient forest stays on the field before it activates to destoy something than Stardust should not be able to negate it.
As i would believe Stardust can only negate an effect of an existing effect monster that destroys something, and it can only destroy Trap and Spell Cards at activation if they destroy something immediatly.
i was reading a thread and it has some mixed answers so i would appreciate some input, from HH, Atem, or Dues please ^^
Just don't want to come across this in a tourney and not know the answer. It looks bad if you local judge doesn't know what she is talking about you know. Kearowind (talk • contribs) 15:21, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Stardust Dragon negates "the activation of a Spell Card, Trap Card, or Effect Monster's EFFECT that destroys a card(s) on the field, and destroys that card". So it doesn't have to be placed on the field to be negated, the effect just has to activate. --Dark Star X (talk • contribs) 15:24, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
i was asking for HH, Atem or Deus to answer as i have heard answers going back an forth
i am aware of this ruling
- "Stardust Dragon's" effect can be chained to the effect of a Continuous Spell or Trap Card, like "Blaze Accelerator" or "Skull Lair".
i would just like an answer regarding this situation from a recognized person please and thank you... Kearowind (talk • contribs) 15:44, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Stardust Dragon can still negate the effects of a card that doesn't destroy right away. The important part is whether or not the effect starts a chain when it actually tries to destroy cards.
For example, from the ruling of Ancient Forest:
- "The effect "if a monster attacks, it is destroyed at the end of the Battle Phase" of "Ancient Forest" activates and starts a Chain."
Since it starts a chain, Stardust Dragon can still negate it. The same goes for Ekibyo Drakmord in the OCG because its effect starts a chain. However, in the TCG' the effect of Ekibyo Drakmord does not start a chain. Therefore, in the TCG, Stardust Dragon cannot negate its effects.-- HHTurtle (Talk) 15:51, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
