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| − | I hate to say it, but whoever's been writing the last few Featured Cards is just plain awful. Not only does it provide any more info than just chatter, there's no useful analysis of the card or how to play it.
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| | + | * [[Forum:Featured Card Issues/Archive 1|Archive 1]] |
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| − | Also, shouldn't a writer at least try to be a bit more formal with the language used in these reviews?
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| | + | == May Featured Card == |
| | + | I think that the last 2 articles have been written in a hasty manner. Honestly, I would have liked more input from the community besides just Ultimate Kuriboh and Golden Key. (Thanks for the help on proofreading the last article!) |
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| − | Text like this has nothing to do with the actual card itself. It's just editorializing:
| + | So what you, the community members, want as the next [[Yu-Gi-Oh!:Featured Card]], and if you don't know what that is, it's the Featured Card Article on the lower part of the Main Page, which is updated Monthly. |
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| − | ''* How will this card affect the Metagame in the near future? You could say only time will tell, however if you look at the success of this card’s impact on the OCG. Frog Monarchs, aka Frognarchs, have made a good use of this card in the OCG, as well as Formula Synchron, Swap Frog, Fishborg Blaster, Ronintoadin, and the recently unlimited Treeborn Frog. Considering that the OCG is a good barometer for the impact cards will have in the TCG, it’s safe to say that Effect Veiler has a lot of playtime to come.''
| + | <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">--[[User:Dark Ace SP|<span style="color:FireBrick;">Dark </span><span style="color:LightSlateGray">Ace SP</span>]] ([[User_talk:Dark Ace SP|<span style="color:FireBrick;">Talk</span>]])</span> 14:01, April 7, 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | Text like this is not analysis. Also, how do you get into a discussion about D.D. Crow? Stick to the card:
| + | As of today, I found out that some idiot has been messing with and totally erased the article about galaxy eyes tachyon dragon....this needs to be fixed now!!!!! <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Dragopentling|Dragopentling]] ([[User talk:Dragopentling|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dragopentling|contribs]]) 12:24, May 15, 2013''</small> |
| | + | :I agreed - I just caught on that as well - if you had checking [[User talk:DinoGuy1000|this talk page]], that was a prove of what had happening to it. But that's not an "idiot" who mess it up, it's just some length that went too long that it cut CardTable2 out. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 16:31, May 15, 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | ''* With the upcoming format killing some decks, and making others more viable, the Metagame is going to change. The question now becomes, which do you find more problematic, the presence of cards in the graveyard, or the effect of the monster that hits the field? Effect Veiler stops the problem when it arrives on the field, and D.D. Crow’s goal is to stop it from happening to begin with by hitting key cards in the graveyard. The potential of both cards is clear, but you don’t always have room for both, as they’re likely to take up the same slot in your main or side deck.''
| + | ::Can someone link me to the actual article? <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">--[[User:Dark Ace SP|<span style="color:FireBrick;">Dark </span><span style="color:LightSlateGray">Ace SP</span>]] ([[User_talk:Dark Ace SP|<span style="color:FireBrick;">Talk</span>]])</span> 01:09, May 17, 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | If anyone is thinking about doing this Featured Card segments, then would it be so hard to actually do the job? Stick to the card, give good/in-depth analysis and avoid the cliches of trying to use one card to predict the entire meta!
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| − | * Well, it's very easy to criticize it, but how would you write it to make it better?--[[User:YamiWheeler|YamiWheeler]] ([[User be talk:YamiWheeler|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/YamiWheeler|contribs]]) 15:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Question: Why isn't there a featured card article for each new pack for the yugioh wiki site? And why do featured cards take so long to change? --[[Special:Contributions/184.96.223.211|184.96.223.211]] ([[User talk:184.96.223.211|talk]]) 01:39, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Probably because the Featured Card changes monthly or something. It's been a while since the last time I saw that discussion on how often the Featured Card should change though. --[[User:Gadjiltron|Gadjiltron]] ([[User talk:Gadjiltron|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gadjiltron|contribs]]) 07:16, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | How are the featured cards decided anyways? And I agree, I would like them more often. We have averaged about a featured card every 2 months (24 months/12 featured cards), which I think is a bit too long...--[[User:BassNettoHikari2|BassNettoHikari2]] ([[User talk:BassNettoHikari2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BassNettoHikari2|contribs]]) 15:11, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | well we have to appreciate the writer. not everyone would spend their time in writing a featured card article. Who ever complained about it just being like a discussion, well its already included some ways how to use it and you cant expect too much from the writer as he said that the card hasnt been released for long [[User:Enternal Evoluton Burst|Enternal Evoluton Burst]] ([[User talk:Enternal Evoluton Burst|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Enternal Evoluton Burst|contribs]]) 23:04, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Normally, the Featured Cards are cards that have just been released so the writer usually doesn't have much to work with. As for who decides, well it isn't sure. There was one time that the admins and users discussed about it but the newest one wasn't discussed publicly before. I guess you would need to ask Deltaneos and maybe Messenger of the Dark/Demon God Asura, as I hear that he also helped out with this before.--<span style="background-color:LightCyan; border:4px ridge blue; -moz-border-radius:1em;"> [[User:Hide Head Turtle|<span style="color:black;">'''HHTurtle'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Hide Head Turtle|'''Talk''']]</sup> </span> 06:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think admins deciding what the featured card is is fine. I actually think the featured card section on the main page is a pretty well, thought out set of paragraphs. There's an introduction, reasons why it's a good card, and then a conclusion. Very well-done. There's really no reason for change. Admins do their research on this stuff, so unless a non-Admin makes a new featured card, there's really nothing to ''potentially'' worry about. <font style="background-color:black">[[User:Yugioh DED|<span style="color:red;">Yugioh DED</span>]]([[User talk:Yugioh DED|<span style="color:red;"><small>(Leaving Me Messages Are Often Left Here)</small></span>]]</font> 06:58, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think we should make a sticky thread in [[Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Community Discussion|this section]] of the forum where people can post their suggestions and have other users comment on them. Something like [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests|this]]. If a Featured Card is created without discussion in that forum, it should be deleted. It was kinda sad to see [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&oldid=1199265#New_featured_card_please.21 Some discussion] about a Featured Card based on the new Forbidden and Limited Lists ignored in favour of [[Yu-Gi-Oh!:Featured Card/Effect Veiler|Something completly different]].<br />I prefer to let everyone have their say, than leave it a pure admin decision. Besides how many active admins are up-to-date on the current meta? -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 19:38, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think that we may need a "Writing Committee". Not to say that only those users can come up with ideas, no, just that only they are allowed to write the content. This should allow for a much more clean slate of articles. Of course, the community would vote on the card to be written about. One format I would, however, prefer to see, is that the pattern of FCAs should be that when a new set comes out, a card that has not been spotlit by KONAMI on their strategy site, is featured here. One example is that I would currently like to write about "[[Skull Meister]]". Other times, older cards that have fallen by the wayside and may still have a powerful impact, or a good niche, potent, small-amount-of-cards, strategies that lead unpopular Decks to a YCS victory and the like would be good FCAs. I personally would love to write more FCAs, however, how often new ones go up should be discussed. A new one every week could lead people to run dry of ideas, and if they aren't frequent enough, the Wikia looks stale. [[User:Messengerofthedark|DemonGodAsura]] ([[User talk:Messengerofthedark|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Messengerofthedark|contribs]]) 01:47, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :[http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2433 Skull Meister was actually done by Konami...] quibbling aside, I do think that only users that can prove that they have writing talent should be allowed to write the card articles. Some of them just stink.... I mean they ''really'', I-wouldn't-have-believed-it-if-I-hadn't-seen-it-with-these-eyes, stink. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] ([[User talk:Runer5h|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Runer5h|contribs]]) 02:42, December 1, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
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| − | :: I agree with Runner, we should be able to find someone who could actually write good card articles (''I mean really, who writes these?!?''), plus, being that the articles are on <u>Our Main Page</u> it kind of makes our Wiki look bad, and quite sloppy, which we all know this isn't, I think we should have everyone who would like to write the articles write their name down somewhere, and then we as a community pick some card that they should all write about, we then pick the best ones, and they can write the articles (if we like more than one, we can rotate them around). Then we can find someway of picking the featured cards...[[User:BassNettoHikari2|BassNettoHikari2]]...[[User talk:BassNettoHikari2|Talk to me]]... 07:08, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | The "Destiny Hero - Plasma" one has been deleted now. I've also removed the createboxes from [[Project:Featured Card]] and [[Template:Featured Card]] and linked to this forum instead. This thread has also been renamed as it didn't seem appropriate to "Horrible Writing/Reviews for Featured Card" from those pages. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 13:42, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I dont have a username, but am willing to contribute to the featured article page in anyway possible.
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| − | Perhaps we should make a list of the cards that we want to feature, and then we'll have some place to go from.
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| − | I think [[Chain Disappearance]] is an overlooked card. Maybe we should make a featured one about that.
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| − | I think the big issue with the writing is that we dont want to just copy all of the card tips that are already on this forum, but to cast an old card in a new light.
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| − | They dont have to be the best cards in the game, they just have to have a certain charm to them which makes the game fun. Take the [[Gift Card]] feature from a few years ago for example[[Special:Contributions/148.100.208.57|148.100.208.57]] ([[User talk:148.100.208.57|talk]]) 23:23, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Seconding this, just because it would look more formal and organized. I mean, at first, I made some hesitations when I made the Barbaros Page, because I wasn't sure if it'll last. Being in a committee will mean that we'd actuall talk on a page, make drafts and finally have a finished product that would look most presentable, and its author more confident. [[User:MarxMayhem|MarxMayhem]] ([[User talk:MarxMayhem|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarxMayhem|contribs]]) 09:12, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I use the above header just to separate this message from the one about the writing committee as it's not that connected to it. For anyone who doesn't realise (I don't see why you would), I'm just a standard user, not an admin, however I'm also the writer of the previous featured article on "Ronintoadin". The way I saw my article, was I'd recently built a Frog deck and was starting to realise the wonders of "Ronintoadin" so I decided to write the article on him and submitted it under the aforementioned (Deltaneos) createbox for featured card. I expected, and by the end assumed the process would be that my article would be present in the "Featured Card Project", admins would look at it as it has created a new page in the wiki, and then if they liked it, after making some small punctuation, grammar and coding corrections, they might put it on the main page. What happened next was strange. After a couple of days, the article appeared on the main page, but only for me. Any other computer still showed the previous featured card, and mine would only show my article, even when I logged out, but would change if I deleted my cookies. After a couple of days of this, my article appeared for everyone (and I was really happy!). I don't know if that story helps anyone at all, but if it did, you're welcome.
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| − | To me, this seems like the best system, whether or not that is actually how the system worked. I don't know if admins approved it, or it did, after a while, automatically change. If it was that it automatically changed, and the lack of changes to the featured card that occur, it seems to me that admins wouldn't have a hard task of approving new featured card articles, as the amount of articles submitted would be reasonably low. I would love to write another article, and have considered it for a while, but the right card never came up, until now, and I've started writing an article for "Red Nova Dragon" as I feel it's a card that shouldn't be overlooked. But that's merely my opinion. I think having admins approve new articles gives everyone the chance to contribute, and people will know straight away if they can write or not, cause their article won't be featured, but as I said, I don't many people are that interested in it anyway.
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| − | Before I close, (I do realise I've written a hell of a lot), if anyone would like to leave me constructive feedback on my "Ronintoadin" article, it would be much appreciated, as I realise there is some concern, particularly from the original poster, as to the quality of writing and if there were parts of my article people felt were unnecessary, I would like to know for future reference. Ok, I'll stop now.
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| − | --[[User:Nick R P Green|Nick R P Green]] ([[User talk:Nick R P Green|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nick R P Green|contribs]]) 02:40, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
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