Forum:Black Rose Dragon 2nd eff

I was dueling and someone used the Black Rose Dragon's 2nd effect on my face up attack monster claiming that it's attack was now 0. I stated the ruling that if it was not changed to attack position by his dragon's effect then my monster's attack was not 0. He then decided to pull the "That's a previously official ruling" BS, which is incredibly stupid... because if we go by rulings based solely on this page http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/index.html then there aren't even ANY ruling for packs pre Crimson Crisis. So by that logic wtf are we supposed to do? just not play at all? Dragula42 (talk • contribs) 02:13, September 4, 2011 (UTC)Dragula42

You always follow the newest errata; ignoring your own card's text. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:16, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

K, thanks. This moron argues that because it says "and," not "then," that his move is still right and my card's attack is 0. Dragula42 (talk • contribs) 02:22, September 4, 2011 (UTC)Dragula42

So lemme get this straight; you had a monster in ATK and he used Rose Dragon's power to crush your monster's ATK points to 0? --FredCat 02:23, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly Dragula42 (talk • contribs) 02:25, September 4, 2011 (UTC)Dragula42

Then your buddy made an illegal move - he cannot crush it down to 0 ATK points if it's in ATK position. --FredCat 02:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)