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When ''Jinzo'' is normal summoned, the opponent can activate ''trap hole'' or ''bottomless trap hole'' it to negate the summoning?
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No. [[Trap Hole]] and [[Bottomless Trap Hole]] do not [[negate]] the summon. However, [[Solemn Judgment]] and [[Horn of Heaven]] (Or [[Black Horn of Heaven]] if he was [[Special Summon]]ed) '''do''' [[negate]] the summon, and these remain the only [[Trap Cards]] you can use against the summoning of a [[Jinzo]].
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== Jinzo being immune to Time Wizard's effect in the anime ==
  
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Remember that [[Jinzo]]'s effect is continuous, and is active the moment he hits the field. [[Solemn Judgment]] and [[Horn of Heaven]] bypass it by actually hitting [[Jinzo]] before he 'officially' hits the field.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 08:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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Should I place the immunity this card has against the effect of "Time Wizard" here as an effect or not? The anime explains that the armor of "Jinzo" can't age or corrode for many years which explains why it was unaffected by the effect of "Time Wizard". The effect of "Time Wizard" did affect "[[Barrel Dragon]]", a Machine, however, as shown in Joey's Duel with Bandit Keith. I need to figure out if this should be placed in a page or not.[[User:Cardsknower|Cardsknower]] ([[User talk:Cardsknower|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cardsknower|contribs]]) 00:32, September 13, 2012 (UTC)Cardsknower
  
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Oh man...thats gay. I mean...there isnt a phase where"while monster is been summon" you cant cancel it?...dam
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:I doubt its part of the lore. It's just an extension of "machines can't be affected by magic", which was inconsistently applied, as you pointed out yourself. I think noting on the card appearances and episode pages suffice. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 00:37, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
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== other trap cards ==
 
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So it doesn't negate trap cards activated(or executed) from the graveyard?--'''''[[user:andersmusician|Andersmusician]][[user_talk:andersmusician|<font>$</font>]]''''' 00:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 
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* If [[Jinzo]] is in the [[Graveyard]], it will not negate Trap Card effects played on the field.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 16:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 
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** He means: will Jinzo negate Traps that activate in the Graveyard? I think it will negate them. --[[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] 16:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 
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* It doesn't. His effect only covers Trap Cards on the field. Effects like [[Statue of the Wicked]] will still resolve.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 23:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 
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Trap hole and bottomless doesn't negate his summon, but they do destroy him.  So how is his effect still working?  The trap card's effect should be able to destroy Jinzo before his effect is actived because he is the slowest spell speed.  So prior to his effect's activation (spell speed one), a player plays trap hole, so according to the rule book, the last card in the chain resolves first (trap hole, then jinzo's effect).
 
  
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==Semi-Limited Status==
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:What Cheesy said was why I chose to removing that line - it's not really necessary. Thank you for trying, Cardsknower. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 00:39, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
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Oh no! I'm screwed, it's now semi-limited and mine got lost!!! --'''''[[user:andersmusician|Andersmusician]][[user_talk:andersmusician|<font>$</font>]]''''' 01:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 
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* ...um. How can we help? -- [[User:Huajun Chen|Huajun Chen]] 01:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 
  
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is there any wayto negate his effect if its your opponents (teams) card (yes i like 2 vs 2 games,but thats off-topic)? [[Special:Contributions/85.146.249.89|85.146.249.89]] 18:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
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:I actually reread a couple of episodes in the first season as well as the Duel between Espa and Joey. Machines are unaffected by magical attacks as shown in Joey's Duel with Bandit Keith. They appear to be immune to the effects of Spells if the said effects destroy monsters. Any Spell Card that affects their ATK/DEF will affect them regardless. Effects that can be considered magical vary for Machines as with the case with "Time Wizard". It appears that most Machine-type monsters can be affected by the effect of "Time Wizard", but some Machines like "Jinzo" are unaffected by it under certain circumstances. I already placed the suggestion Cheesedude said onto the card appearances page of "Jinzo", so no need to worry about that.[[User:Cardsknower|Cardsknower]] ([[User talk:Cardsknower|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cardsknower|contribs]]) 22:43, September 13, 2012 (UTC)Cardsknower
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==Skill Drain==
 
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if [[Skill Drain]] is already face up on the field, and Jinzo is then summoned, will Jinzo negate Skill Drain's effect, or will Skill Drain negate Jinzo's ability?
 
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* [[Skill Drain]] negates [[Jinzo]]'s effect - since [[Skill Drain]] was already active, its effect takes precedence, negating [[Jinzo]]'s. --[[User:Darth Covah|Darth Covah]] 23:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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it depends on whatever card is activated 1st. in this case since it was skill drain, it will negate jinzo--[[User:Mr.Archfreak|Mr.Archfreak]] 23:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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What if you active skill drain WHEN your opponent summons Jinzo?  Now who's effect is first? Because Skill Drain doesn't negate the summon but it does negate the effect.
 

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Jinzo being immune to Time Wizard's effect in the anime[edit]

Should I place the immunity this card has against the effect of "Time Wizard" here as an effect or not? The anime explains that the armor of "Jinzo" can't age or corrode for many years which explains why it was unaffected by the effect of "Time Wizard". The effect of "Time Wizard" did affect "Barrel Dragon", a Machine, however, as shown in Joey's Duel with Bandit Keith. I need to figure out if this should be placed in a page or not.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 00:32, September 13, 2012 (UTC)Cardsknower

I doubt its part of the lore. It's just an extension of "machines can't be affected by magic", which was inconsistently applied, as you pointed out yourself. I think noting on the card appearances and episode pages suffice. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:37, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
What Cheesy said was why I chose to removing that line - it's not really necessary. Thank you for trying, Cardsknower. --iFredCat 00:39, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
I actually reread a couple of episodes in the first season as well as the Duel between Espa and Joey. Machines are unaffected by magical attacks as shown in Joey's Duel with Bandit Keith. They appear to be immune to the effects of Spells if the said effects destroy monsters. Any Spell Card that affects their ATK/DEF will affect them regardless. Effects that can be considered magical vary for Machines as with the case with "Time Wizard". It appears that most Machine-type monsters can be affected by the effect of "Time Wizard", but some Machines like "Jinzo" are unaffected by it under certain circumstances. I already placed the suggestion Cheesedude said onto the card appearances page of "Jinzo", so no need to worry about that.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:43, September 13, 2012 (UTC)Cardsknower
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