Forum:Laval magma cannoneer & volcanic scattershot

if i send a "volcanic scattershot" to the graveyard for the effect(or cost?) of "laval magma cannoneer", will scattershots effect to burn for 500 damage activate after the resolvence of cannoneers effect? that would be great.

thank you

Nazias Kram173.172.80.94 (talk) 21:18, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I am sure that it won't work since of this ruling (though it was previously, it's still official); If this card is sent to the Graveyard for the effect of a "Blaze Accelerator" card, its effect to inflict 500 damage to your opponent does not activate. ~"Volcanic Scattershot" Previous Official Rulings Article. --FredCat 21:32, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

1) Laval Magma Cannoneer have cost.

2) Volcanic Scattershot cannot active its burn effect when it is sent to grave for Blaze Accelerator just because BKSS. And I think it is because Konami (or UDE) want you active its second eff and skip its first eff.

3) So Volcanic Scattershot will active its burn eff after Laval Magma Cannoneer resolve.--Lê (talk • contribs) 22:59, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

may i ask for a 3rd or 4th opinion please? my first assumption was that it would be the same as the "blaze accelerator" ruling, and this is why i posed the question. i would like more input by someone. Dues Ex or ATEMVEGETA? also, if i activate "give and take" selecting a "giant kozaky" in my graveyard and my face up "armageddon knight", may i chain a 2nd "give and take" to the 1st selecting the same "giant kozaky"? if i can, since the special summoned "giant kozaky" will immediately be destroyed by its 1st effect (assuming my opponent does not control a face up "kozaky"), may i select that same "giant kozaky" for the special summon of the 2nd "give and take" since it will be in my graveyard at the time my 2nd "give and take" resolves or is it no longer recognized as the "same" monster i selected initially for the effect of my 2 "give and take"s and/or do i miss the timing in some way? i usually activate my 1st "give and take" on my opponents draw phase but i was curious about this scenario.

thank you

Nazias Kram173.172.80.94 (talk) 07:20, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Kram173.172.80.94 (talk) 07:20, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

it will activate. Scattershots burn when sent to the grave is madatory.

You can chain the second give and take, but since the target left the grave for a short moment (even if it is back when the first give and take resolves) it wont be special summoned. But you always van activate one, let it resolve and then activate the other after that in the same draw phase. Phases are not switched until both players agree to do so. -dest- (talk • contribs) 10:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

thank you dest. anyone else care to chime in regarding cannoneer vs scattershot? im assuming the comment prior to your kozaky replay was also yours? if so, that would be good enough for me.

Nazias Kram173.172.80.94 (talk) 16:20, August 18, 2011 (UTC)