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FYI, the ''"You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card)."'' requirement is not an effect, it is a summoning condition. Either way you cannot summon [[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]] by using the effect of [[Advance Force]].--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 10:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC) | FYI, the ''"You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card)."'' requirement is not an effect, it is a summoning condition. Either way you cannot summon [[Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster)|Obelisk the Tormentor]] by using the effect of [[Advance Force]].--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 10:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Actually advance force will will work for the god cards. simply on the idea that it does not target so it will bypass the effect of the gods on there normal summon assuming of course that it is an effect. However even if it is not an effect of the card it will still work because the card advance force will bypass that as well. all in all the card advance force can tribute summon the Egyptian god cards with one tribute so long as that tribute is level 5 or higher. if you are wondering as to why it bypasses the effects and or rules allow me to explain. you see with any level 7 or higher monster you know that it has too be tribute with 2 or more tributes unless a card effect says something else on that matter. however what is not stated on any regular level 7 or higher monster is that it requires 2 tributes vie the official rule that level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes unless a card effect says otherwise. the point i am trying to get too you is this how would konami make a rule that restricted the god cards so that they required 3 tributes answer they could not, so what they did was either give the monster the effect or basic rule over the three cards that they needed 3 tributes however if it is not the effect of the card and instead is what i mentioned as a rule over the three cards. Then the tribute cost could be compared between a normal level 5 or 6 and a level 7 ,8,9, or 10 monster. however if it is an effect of the card the outcome is the same simply because or the contradiction between advance force effect and the god cards effect (You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card) and (you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with one level 5 or higher monster) although the effect completely contradict each other advance force remains the winner. | Actually advance force will will work for the god cards. simply on the idea that it does not target so it will bypass the effect of the gods on there normal summon assuming of course that it is an effect. However even if it is not an effect of the card it will still work because the card advance force will bypass that as well. all in all the card advance force can tribute summon the Egyptian god cards with one tribute so long as that tribute is level 5 or higher. if you are wondering as to why it bypasses the effects and or rules allow me to explain. you see with any level 7 or higher monster you know that it has too be tribute with 2 or more tributes unless a card effect says something else on that matter. however what is not stated on any regular level 7 or higher monster is that it requires 2 tributes vie the official rule that level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes unless a card effect says otherwise. the point i am trying to get too you is this how would konami make a rule that restricted the god cards so that they required 3 tributes answer they could not, so what they did was either give the monster the effect or basic rule over the three cards that they needed 3 tributes however if it is not the effect of the card and instead is what i mentioned as a rule over the three cards. Then the tribute cost could be compared between a normal level 5 or 6 and a level 7 ,8,9, or 10 monster. however if it is an effect of the card the outcome is the same simply because or the contradiction between advance force effect and the god cards effect (You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card) and (you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with one level 5 or higher monster) although the effect completely contradict each other advance force remains the winner. | ||
simply put the contradiction between the gods and advance fore is this. the gods say they cannot be tribute except with 3 monsters, and advance force says the basic opposite, that you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with a level 5 or higher monster. however what many have failed to grasp is this, even do the effects completely contradict each other. advance force bypasses it simply because the god cards are written is such a way that they create a whole new group such as level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 level monster. just as level 6 to 5 require 1 tribute and level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes the gods require 3 tributes. knowing that you can easily say that advance fore bypasses that rule that envelopes the god cards just as it envelopes level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 monsters. If you wish to message me on this you can send an email to [email protected] however if you do not explain you reason for which you are contradicting me on this manner i will not message back. | simply put the contradiction between the gods and advance fore is this. the gods say they cannot be tribute except with 3 monsters, and advance force says the basic opposite, that you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with a level 5 or higher monster. however what many have failed to grasp is this, even do the effects completely contradict each other. advance force bypasses it simply because the god cards are written is such a way that they create a whole new group such as level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 level monster. just as level 6 to 5 require 1 tribute and level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes the gods require 3 tributes. knowing that you can easily say that advance fore bypasses that rule that envelopes the god cards just as it envelopes level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 monsters. If you wish to message me on this you can send an email to [email protected] however if you do not explain you reason for which you are contradicting me on this manner i will not message back. | ||
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If Advance Force is in play, can you use it to tribute summon Obelisk the Tormentor with only 1 tribute? Runer5h 02:20, December 30, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h
- No. Advance Force doesn't bypass Obelisk the Tormentors effect which states that he cannot be Normal Summoned unless you tribute 3 monsters. DemonGodAsura 02:33, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
FYI, the "You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card)." requirement is not an effect, it is a summoning condition. Either way you cannot summon Obelisk the Tormentor by using the effect of Advance Force.--Hide Head Turtle 10:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
Actually advance force will will work for the god cards. simply on the idea that it does not target so it will bypass the effect of the gods on there normal summon assuming of course that it is an effect. However even if it is not an effect of the card it will still work because the card advance force will bypass that as well. all in all the card advance force can tribute summon the Egyptian god cards with one tribute so long as that tribute is level 5 or higher. if you are wondering as to why it bypasses the effects and or rules allow me to explain. you see with any level 7 or higher monster you know that it has too be tribute with 2 or more tributes unless a card effect says something else on that matter. however what is not stated on any regular level 7 or higher monster is that it requires 2 tributes vie the official rule that level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes unless a card effect says otherwise. the point i am trying to get too you is this how would konami make a rule that restricted the god cards so that they required 3 tributes answer they could not, so what they did was either give the monster the effect or basic rule over the three cards that they needed 3 tributes however if it is not the effect of the card and instead is what i mentioned as a rule over the three cards. Then the tribute cost could be compared between a normal level 5 or 6 and a level 7 ,8,9, or 10 monster. however if it is an effect of the card the outcome is the same simply because or the contradiction between advance force effect and the god cards effect (You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card) and (you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with one level 5 or higher monster) although the effect completely contradict each other advance force remains the winner.
simply put the contradiction between the gods and advance fore is this. the gods say they cannot be tribute except with 3 monsters, and advance force says the basic opposite, that you can tribute a level 7 or higher monster with a level 5 or higher monster. however what many have failed to grasp is this, even do the effects completely contradict each other. advance force bypasses it simply because the god cards are written is such a way that they create a whole new group such as level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 level monster. just as level 6 to 5 require 1 tribute and level 7 or higher monsters require 2 tributes the gods require 3 tributes. knowing that you can easily say that advance fore bypasses that rule that envelopes the god cards just as it envelopes level 7 or higher monsters and level 6 to 5 monsters. If you wish to message me on this you can send an email to [email protected] however if you do not explain you reason for which you are contradicting me on this manner i will not message back.
Advance force and Precious cards from beyond..
Can i draw from PCFB when i use the effect of advance force
No you must tribute 2 monsters to draw for Precious Cards from Beyond.Skavinger 09:57, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
It says requiered 2 or more tributes.
[email protected] (talk • contribs) 10:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
