Forum:Ocg ruling contradiction

In the Ocg ruling for ultimate offering it says that when you opponent activated ultimated offering as chain link 1 you opponent can activated horn of heaven to negate the normal summon, Tcg you can't negate the normal summoned when a effect resolve, In other card ruling for ocg it say that you can't negate the summoned of a ritual monster, fusion monster that has an effect that resolve. So know I'am confused in ocg ruling of ultimate offering because when ultimated offering resolve to normal summoned a monster card when the resolution end the monster card is suppose to be succesfuly normal summoned, card that negate the normal summoned should miss it's timming for Ocg as well as Tcg.96.44.92.186 (talk) 04:20, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

OH GOD, DA GRAMMAR OF RUNNING SENTENCE!

In the OCG Rulings for "Ultimate Offering"; it says that when your opponent activated the effect of "Ultimate Offering" as Chain Link 1. Your opponent can using the effect of "Horn of Heaven" to negate the Normal Summon while in TCG Rulings, your opponent can't doing that since it was Summoning in the Resolve. So now I am confused in the difference of OCG Rulings when "Ultimate Offering" is resolved while Normal Summoning a Monster, by the time Resolution has ending - the Monster has being Normal Summoned successful and "Horn of Heaven" would missing the timing due to that theory, in both sides. --iFredCat 04:48, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

To the original poster: FredCat100 is right. Pls try to practice good use of punctuation. It helps others understand your question better.

To FredCat100: You yourself should improve your grammar. Not trying to be a Grammar Nazi. I honestly have a hard time understanding what you've written. No offense meant to you.

The ruling contradiction between the OCG and the TCG that you see isn't as simple as "you can't negate in the TCG but you can in the OCG."

There is this OCG ruling for Ultimate Offering which states:

"If you Normal Summon a monster at Chain Link 1 through the effect of "Ultimate Offering", then "Solemn Judgment" and "Horn of Heaven" can be activated to negate the Normal Summon. However, if you Normal Summon a monster at Chain Link 2 through the effect of "Ultimate Offering", then "Solemn Judgment" and "Horn of Heaven" cannot be activated."

I'll research more into this problem and consult the other users.  HHTurtle ^Talk   06:51, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

For slight confirmation of this, check the TCG and OCG rulings of Formula Synchron. In the OCG, the Synchro Summon through Formula Synchron or T.G._Wonder_Magician is considered an Inherent Summon, not a Special Summon through an effect, so at the end of the resolving chain, if that Special Summon is the last event to have happened (ie, it was Chain Link 1) then cards that negate Inherent Summons can be used to negate the summon. AEtherchild (Talk|Contribs) 07:00, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Brilliant! That makes a lot of sense. I also found Urgent Tuning also does the same thing.  HHTurtle ^Talk   07:16, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, HHTurtle; but nope taken - and I am not trying to be one, I only want to make it more clearly enough for any Judges (included Falzar, since he's not the one) to understand what he mean. And also, I am still practicing on my grammar as we speak. Again, sorry if I am speak like Koala just because I just woke now. --iFredCat 11:15, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I only finish writing that post at 1:20 am, I just came out of work. I was in a rush to go to bed, so do you realy think I would correct the sentence until 3:00 am.96.44.92.186 (talk) 14:22, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

In OCg:I think ultimate offering resolution ends with the monster being normal summoned, not succesfully normal summoned, while in Tcg the resolution ends with a succesfull normal summoned, same thing with urgent tuning.96.44.92.186 (talk) 14:22, June 6, 2012 (UTC)