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So if a [[Superheavy Samurai]] monster in [[Defence Position]] attacks a monster with atk equal to the attacking monsters def, then both monsters are destroyed? Even though the attacking monster is in defence mode
 
So if a [[Superheavy Samurai]] monster in [[Defence Position]] attacks a monster with atk equal to the attacking monsters def, then both monsters are destroyed? Even though the attacking monster is in defence mode
 
[[User:TheGameRogue|TheGameRogue]] ([[User talk:TheGameRogue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheGameRogue|contribs]]) 12:38, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 
[[User:TheGameRogue|TheGameRogue]] ([[User talk:TheGameRogue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheGameRogue|contribs]]) 12:38, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:Nope, the Attack Position monster will die and yours won't because the only time both monsters die is if they're both in Attack Position.--[[User:MasterMarik|MasterMarik]] ([[User talk:MasterMarik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MasterMarik|contribs]]) 12:50, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
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Ok, so just to make sure i understand, the rules go as follows*:
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DEF lower -> ATK higher = difference as damage to attacking player, no monster is destroyed
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DEF same -> ATK same = attack target is destroyed only and no damage
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DEF higher -> ATK lower = difference as damage to attack target's player, attack target is destroyed
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DEF lower -> DEF higher = difference as damage to attacking player, no monster is destroyed
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DEF same -> DEF same = no monster is destroyed and no damage
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DEF higher -> DEF lower = attack target is destroyed and no damage
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*Assuming no stat changing cards/other effects are applied (except the ability to attack in defence mode)
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[[User:TheGameRogue|TheGameRogue]] ([[User talk:TheGameRogue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheGameRogue|contribs]]) 02:23, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:correct
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:just pretend its in ATK mode and [[Shield And Sword]] was used on it[[User:DreadKaiser|DreadKaiser]] ([[User talk:DreadKaiser|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DreadKaiser|contribs]]) 03:32, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
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::I was under the impression that due to the last OCG [[Card Rulings:Superheavy Samurai Big Benkei|ruling]] of "Big Benkei", that for the purpose of the attacking Defense-position monster, just consider the monster as attack position for regarding itself being destroyed by battle. If this is right, that would change two parts of the above.
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* Defense lower (like 2000 Def) attacking Attack Higher (2100 Attack), would result in 100 Battle damage to the attacking player and their monster destroyed.
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* Defense equal (2000 Def) attacking Attack equal (2000 Attack) would result in both monsters being destroyed.
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--[[User:LordGeovanni|<span style="color:green;">LordGeovanni</span>]]- <span style="color:green;">([[User_talk:LordGeovanni|<span style="color:green;">Talk To Me</span>]]) *Kupo*</span> 09:28, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
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So which one is it? Just to clarify?

Latest revision as of 12:00, 22 September 2014

What are the rules of "Superheavy Samurai" monsters battling in Defense Position. So like what happens when a defense monster attacks an attack position monster whose atk is equal to the def of the attacking monster? All possibilities please (low def->high atk,equal def->equal atk,high def->low atk,low def->high def,equal def->equal def,high def->low def) TheGameRogue (talkcontribs) 12:34, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

To make it simpler, envision it is in Attack Position and its DEF is being used for its ATK value. That's it. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 13:52, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

So if a Superheavy Samurai monster in Defence Position attacks a monster with atk equal to the attacking monsters def, then both monsters are destroyed? Even though the attacking monster is in defence mode TheGameRogue (talkcontribs) 12:38, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, the Attack Position monster will die and yours won't because the only time both monsters die is if they're both in Attack Position.--MasterMarik (talkcontribs) 12:50, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, so just to make sure i understand, the rules go as follows*:

DEF lower -> ATK higher = difference as damage to attacking player, no monster is destroyed

DEF same -> ATK same = attack target is destroyed only and no damage

DEF higher -> ATK lower = difference as damage to attack target's player, attack target is destroyed

DEF lower -> DEF higher = difference as damage to attacking player, no monster is destroyed

DEF same -> DEF same = no monster is destroyed and no damage

DEF higher -> DEF lower = attack target is destroyed and no damage

  • Assuming no stat changing cards/other effects are applied (except the ability to attack in defence mode)

TheGameRogue (talkcontribs) 02:23, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

correct
just pretend its in ATK mode and Shield And Sword was used on itDreadKaiser (talkcontribs) 03:32, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
I was under the impression that due to the last OCG ruling of "Big Benkei", that for the purpose of the attacking Defense-position monster, just consider the monster as attack position for regarding itself being destroyed by battle. If this is right, that would change two parts of the above.
  • Defense lower (like 2000 Def) attacking Attack Higher (2100 Attack), would result in 100 Battle damage to the attacking player and their monster destroyed.
  • Defense equal (2000 Def) attacking Attack equal (2000 Attack) would result in both monsters being destroyed.

--LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 09:28, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

So which one is it? Just to clarify?