Editing Card Rulings talk:Poison Draw Frog

i am right! "poison draw frog" is like "ojamagic",for example,if you discard thiswith "lightning vortex","hand destruction","summoner monk",etc you are allow to addthe ojamas to your hand.but if you have a "dark world "monster it is an other story becausethey have to be descarted by an efect card(you can t special summon those by a cost) and poison draw frog doesn t say it has to be send by an efect card,///it is like "hidra viper"s effect....papi! 

i am right! "poison draw frog" is like "ojamagic",for example,if you discard thiswith "lightning vortex","hand destruction","summoner monk",etc you are allow to addthe ojamas to your hand.but if you have a "dark world "monster it is an other story becausethey have to be descarted by an efect card(you can t special summon those by a cost) and poison draw frog doesn t say it has to be send by an efect card,///it is like "hidra viper"s effect....papi! <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:190.173.101.6|190.173.101.6]] ([[User talk:190.173.101.6|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/190.173.101.6|contribs]]) 17:36, January 17, 2010''</small>

and what? <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:190.173.72.244|190.173.72.244]] ([[User talk:190.173.72.244|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/190.173.72.244|contribs]]) 01:45, January 18, 2010''</small>

:Pardon?  First, "[[Poison Draw Frog]]" has to be sent from the field to the Graveyard, so discarding it from the hand will never trigger its effect.  Second, "[[Poison Draw Frog]]" has an optional "'''''When'''...you can...''" effect, so it is subject to [[missing the timing]].
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:--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 04:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

if tribute summon or sinchro summon activate thiss effect? <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:189.163.47.138|189.163.47.138]] ([[User talk:189.163.47.138|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/189.163.47.138|contribs]]) 21:32, February 21, 2010''</small>

:Right.  It misses the timing, and you can't activate its effect.
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:--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 02:54, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

If Tributed by Substitoad, Poison Draw Frog Effect activate? Evil Soul Dark[[Special:Contributions/187.56.130.103|187.56.130.103]] 17:52, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

:The effect doesn't activate, since you [[miss the timing]].
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:--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 20:33, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

*no!! if you miss the time with "poison draw frog" and "substitoad"...you miss the the time with "black wirlwing,and blizzar,or with two blackwirwings activated...and why can i draw a card with "hidra viver"'s play????  and with substitoad i can't!! <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:190.173.67.81|190.173.67.81]] ([[User talk:190.173.67.81|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/190.173.67.81|contribs]]) 17:23, March 12, 2010''</small>

::For "[[Black Whirlwind]]" and "[[Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North]]", two effects are attempting to [[activate]] (start a Chain Link) at the same time, so you apply the rules for [[SEGOC]].  Both effects activate.
::For "[[Poison Draw Frog]]", the effects aren't trying to activate at the same time - you activate the effect of "[[Substitoad]]", which makes the effect of "[[Poison Draw Frog]]" want to activate.  However, the effect of "[[Poison Draw Frog]]" can't activate yet, since there is no reason why it can.  After the Chain finishes resolving, it is no longer "''when ["Poison Draw Frog"] is sent to the Graveyard''", so you can't activate its effect - you [[miss the timing]].
::"[[Hydra Viper]]", you declare an attack and Tribute at the same time.  The last thing to happen is (amongst other things) "[[Poison Draw Frog]]" being sent to the Graveyard, so you can activate its effect.
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::--[[User:Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machina]] ([[User Talk:Deus Ex Machina|Talk]]) 03:47, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

*ok