Forum:Belial and Gemini Summoner questions

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So I'm already pretty sure that these situations work, I'd just like a larger amount of affirmations.

Belial - Marquis of Darkness Effect: Your opponent cannot select any monster you control, except "Belial - Marquis of Darkness", as an attack target, or as a target of a Spell or Trap Card.

If there are 2, does it create a lockdown similar to 2 Marauding Captains? the difference being that it also stops targetted spells and traps.

I know the wording is different, the fact that you can only target 'Belial' means that it doesn't matter which one, just that you have to target one or the other, would make for something really mean if the only thing you could do at this point was lightning vortex or you're boned. . . Just curious about that one. . .

The other situation is with Gemini Summoner, it allows you to normal summon a gemini from your hand during your opponent's end phase, therefore 5star+ must be tributed, can Gemini Summoner be the monster offered as tribute?

I'd imagine the answer is yes because of how specifically its a normal summon, therefore its not based on the Summoner's effect. Similar to using Ultimate Offering paying 2000 life poitns, then heavy storming. . . You can still summon 4 additional times.

Just trying to get my strats straight.Lostconfound19 14:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


I believe "Belial - Marquis of Darkness" works like "Vilepawn Archfiend". If you control two, your opponent can select either one (but no other monsters).

You can Tribute "Gemini Summoner" for his (her?) own effect. This is because you perform the Tribute when the effect resolves.

Also, for "Ultimate Offering", you activate the effect, and when it resolves, you Normal Summon a monster. If later "Heavy Storm" is played, the monsters have already been Summoned, so it makes no difference. If "Dust Tornado" is chained to "Ultimate Offering", then "Ultimate Offering" is no longer on the field when it resolves, so its effect won't apply (like all Continuous Trap Cards). --Deus Ex Machina 16:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)