Forum:Dark Crusader and Night Assailant

Would i be able to use Dark Crusader's effect to send night assailant from my hand to gain 400 attack, then bring back night assailant and repeat until i can kill my opponent?

Blood-Stained-Doz 20:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Night Assailant cannot return itself to hand by its effect. (it can return another night assailant, which is why it got limited) Peitenimi 20:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

"Night Assailant" cannot target himself. If you have a second copy of "Night Assailant", you can use the first copy to retrieve the second copy, and you can repeat this as many times as you want. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 20:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

i would have thought it could target itself, as for example Grandmaster of the Six Samurai can target itself due t its effect, night assailant should be able to do the same thing Blood-Stained-Doz 20:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

The rulings say "You cannot select the "Night Assailant" that was itself sent to the Graveyard, so there is no infinite loop." Danny Lilithborne 21:53, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

i dont see any continuous loop, as i could stop the effect when needed Blood-Stained-Doz 21:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

"Night Assailant" has been ruled differently than "Grandmaster of the Six Samurai". The two are not comparable.

"Night Assailant" is much easier to exploit, since there are many effects which discard a card to do something. With "Dark Crusader" or "XYZ-Dragon Cannon", you can use two cards to get a monster with insanely high ATK or clear your opponent's field. The ruling is to make these situations harder to attain.

"Grandmaster of the Six Samurai" needs to be destroyed by an opponent's card effect. There are very few ways that your opponent's effect can keep destroying "Grandmaster of the Six Samurai" and have you keep profiting. The best way to do this is by "Creature Swap"ing "King Tiger Wanghu" to your opponent, but then you'd need to control a "The Wicked Avatar" (and a "Six Samurai" monster) to keep having "Grandmaster of the Six Samurai" destroyed. Of course, you'd need a way to profit, so you'd need "DNA Surgery" and "Cyber Summon Blaster"/"Athena". So the simplest combo is with seven cards, possibly five if your opponent already controls a "King Tiger Wanghu" (which is doubtful).

If you want a better excuse, "Night Assailant" is an old-ish card, and doesn't always mean what it says. It should specify "1 other Flip Effect Monster". --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 14:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)