User talk:DaNASCAT

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Talk to the Wikia Techs via IRC, they can directly access the SMW_Settings.php file for your Wikia. Not sure what you mean by inline queries, but if you look at my user page, you can see examples of queries.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 19:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

CardTable2 edit

I don't see performance degradation at all from the use of switches. I've even tested card articles on browsers where I've never browsed the Wiki on. Could you provide me with some supplementary data regarding these "Fatal" timeouts?--TwoTailedFox (talk • contribs) 21:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Check your syntax then to make sure you didn't have an unclosed parser function. Timeout error messages are not normally helpful, as more or less we get a message saying fatal memory error on <Insert-random-function>.php on line <insert random line here> (more or less, how far the server could handle the stress until it choked). --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:14, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just in case you didn't see, I replied to your message on my talk page. ;)

On a semi-related note, what would be the possibility of getting #arraymap spun out into its own extension? It doesn't actually rely on any inherently SMW-based functionality as far as I can tell, and therefore is useful in a number of places SMW isn't. This means we either have to restrain ourselves from using it everywhere we might otherwise like to, or risk reduced or outright broken functionality that is completely unrelated to SMW, whenever SMW goes down. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's the Array extension on MediaWiki we can use over the arraymap function. Looking at your talk page now. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 14:54, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ta for the earlier response. Any idea to what's happened to SMW here?--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 17:06, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

TwoTailedFox, this was because you reverted my reversion and things broke again so one of the techies turned it off overnight to prevent the same issues that caused my reversion in the first place. I can not stress this enough - when I revert something due to a technical issue, PLEASE do not revert it even for testing purposes. I promise (wink wink) I'm not randomly going around and reverting edits for minor issues. Something is wrong in your coding that slows the SMW DB down which puts increased load on the master, which causes the entire Wikia network to slow down. I have reverted the edit again and will seek permission in the morning to flip SMW back on. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 04:05, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, it was my coding that caused the issue, not Fox's. ;) Not that it's necessarily anything to be proud of, though... =D Just so you know, I'm going to redo the main point of my edit - adding a archrelated6 parameter - without any of the accompanying code enhancements I did before (it's just the addition of two #if statements); if this change still results in issues, feel free to slap me a good one as you revert yet again. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:38, June 10, 2011

RE: SMW off for a while

Delt and I have both posted replies on our respective talk pages. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:45, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

SMW off for a while

I've copied the comments from Dinoguy's and my own talk pages here. It's probably most convenient if we keep the discussion together and on this talk page. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:46, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

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When a number of infobox templates were changed on the site a few hours ago, it flooded the caches on our network and caused massive load issues. I have turned off SMW on the site for at least the next 18 hours to let it sync back up correctly. I would highly recommend you make any further changes - either adding on or rolling back - to infoboxes now because it will avoid further issues tomorrow. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about this. This wiki seems to be a pain on Wikia servers a lot lately. Are you able to pinpoint the templates that might be causing the excessive load issues or when the change causing it might have been made? Could Template:Value list which combines #arraymap, #sub, #negref and assigning properties be the source of the problem? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:16, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure it was edits to infobox templates, and that it was on this wiki that the edits occurred? Looking at Special:RecentChanges, the only infobox edits in the past week I'm seeing are the ones I just got done making (I started these after SMW was shut off, apparently, given that I was no longer getting timeouts on previews/saves, but I didn't actually see your comment until now - how's that for serendipity? =D ). On the other hand, I could see my earlier edits to {{Unofficial name/category}} being enough to flood the caches, but I was experiencing timeouts before then as well. The only other possibility I can think of, then, would be that my edits to {{CardTable2}} a couple of days ago are the real, underlying cause, unless this was indeed actually caused by edits on another wiki.

All that said, thanks for the heads-up! =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:38, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I believe (If I am right) that this is also the reason that I cannot find any active concept pages.

Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 22:15, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am monitoring the health of the ganglia server and will try to get this enabled for you guys soon, but I don't think I can do it before tomorrow morning EST. It appears the job queue is reaching a healthy level. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:05, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Have you a new estimate for when it should be back and are you able to answer Dinoguy or my above questions? -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:29, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Deltaneos, sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your questions. I saw them but honestly didn't have an answer for them at that moment and didn't answer them. ANY template that uses expensive parser functions, such as the template you provided DOES cause load spikes. In combination with a heavy SMW use, it can really hurt. I can't pinpoint and say "THIS is the template", but certainly any improvements you make on your end help us work together better. As for DinoGuy, I saw Template changes on the Recent Changes. It may not have been infoboxes, but something had just flooded the job queue, which was sort of the "last straw" for the day. What is going to happen is that we need to release a general site load patch sometime tomorrow. When that is released, I have received permission to turn SMW back on and see what happens. We should be okay, but I can't say for sure. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:40, August 3, 2011 (UTC)