Forum:Card article redesign (part 2)

Continuing from Forum:Card article redesign... Sorry, this has been taking so long.

The last few times I've spoken about what to do next with some other users, we've been divided between whether a card should have its information from each media it appears in on one article or whether we should have individual articles for each. e.g. should we have one article for "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" with sections for its OCG/TCG, manga, Toei anime, NAS anime, Konami Duel Monsters, Bandai, Labyrinth Battle Game, Dungeon Dice Monsters, Capsule Monster Chess, Capsule Monsters, BAM and various other video games or have individual articles for each of those?

Here's rough versions of the two different options:

• Unified
• Individual (would also have a few more articles like this for other mediums)

Some of the advantages to the different versions are listed below. If there's any advantages missing or a mistake in any of the given ones, please mention them. There's also a suggestion on a change to the language display. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:58, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Advantages

Unified articles

• Less repetition: In most of the newer video games, anime and manga cards do the exact same thing and have the same names, so in the other option the same information is getting posted across numerous pages. It's possible something could end up getting changed in one place and left the same in another. That's less likely to happen in this setup.
• Less moving around: If you're looking at an OCG card and want to see if it had a different effect in the anime or check what episodes it appeared in, it might be quicker to move down the page than go to a separate article.
• Easier linkage; You can just link/search "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" for any information on that card.

Individual articles

• Shorter pages
• Separate SMW properties for each medium: Cards have different effects and stats between mediums, but in the current setup, the OCG/TCG gets priority. e.g. "Rainbow Dark Dragon" won't show up when you search for LIGHT monsters, cards that can banish themselves or cards that support "Advanced Crystal Beast" monsters, despite having those properties in the anime. With this setup, "Rainbow Dragon (anime)" would appear in those searches. If you don't want anime cards to appear in your search, you can filter the search to only give you OCG/TCG cards.
• Less subsections: In the mobile skin, everything inside a == Level 2 heading == collapses by default (a bit like [show]/[hide]). In this setup, the level 2 sections will be something like "Stats" (maybe), "Sets", "Search categories", "Navboxes". (See also the languages suggestion below.) So you just expand the section you want and you shouldn't have to scroll too much. In the other setup, there's a lot more content under each level 2 heading, so you may spend a lot of time scrolling to find the content you're looking for. Most people are slower at scrolling on mobile devices.

Languages suggestion

Tabber doesn't work in the mobile skin. This means that mobile users won't have all the languages they're not viewing tucked away in tabs, but will see a long list; the English image, the English stats, followed by the French image, the French stats, the German image, the German stats etc. I was thinking if we have just the English image and stats at the top of the page, then further down we have a section == Other languages == or === Other languages === (depending on which of the above two options we use) with the French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Japanese and Korean tabs inside it.

Comments

I like the individual card page look, sure it's not as convenient as the unified page, but it's probably what a good number of people want to see when they search for a card. Also, would the unified pages take longer to load than the individual pages? I also miss the Action category section, it made finder similar cards easier. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 01:02, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

I was under the impression that part of the deal was that the current card pages stay. We'll have individual pages for everything, but the base card pages will be still be a thing. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:13, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

You mean we'd have "Dark Magician (OCG/TCG)", "Dark Magician (manga)" etc. and the information from all those pages would be transcluded onto "Dark Magician"? Okay, I could put that as a third option above, if that is indeed what you meant. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:35, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

For the individual articles format, if we use that one, I think it will be possible to run a few SMW searches on the current pages, then use lots of regex, then we can import all the pages. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:49, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

That sounds real handy. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:35, June 12, 2013 (UTC)