Talk:The Winged Dragon of Ra
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Are we sure that the effect is "lower your lifepoints to 100 to gain", and not "you can lower lifepoints up until you have 100 left." ? Meaning you select how much to give like Wall of revealing light except the cap is you much keep the last 100lp? --75.140.157.238 06:50, June 7, 2010 (UTC)Dark Magic Ragnarok
According to the Japanese card text, it says "ライフポイントを１００ポイントになるように払う事で" which when directly translated into English roughly means "pay LP so that your LP becomes 100 LP".
For Wall of Revealing Light, its Japanese text says "１０００の倍数のライフポイントを払う", that translates into " pay LP in multiples of 1000".--HHTurtle 06:57, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, Thanks for the answer. --DarkMagicRagnarok 00:03, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
Which Shonen Jump issue is it coming in?
- Soon, must be next one. As the image is reality in TCG of currently. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. 20:14, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
Two God Cards Down...
When the hell are they releasing a playable Slifer card? -Malus X (talk • contribs) 03:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC) Probably in the January 2012 issue. If you havent noticed already, its a pattern. Obelisk the tormentor came in the January 2010 issue. the winged dragon of ra came in the January 2011 issue. So Slifer the sky dragon will probably be in the January 2012 issue, in about a year from now.
Ra the exception?
So I noticed a lack of "This card cannot be targeted by traps, ect." on the card's lore. Is it looking like Ra is the exception to the "God Cards cannot be targeted" rule?| ~Omni
Missing something
Why would they forget the one effect that made this monster even worth looking at? The reason Ra was good was because he gained ATK points equal to the sum of the ATK points of the monsters sacrificed for him. Without that effect, I can not see this card seeing any play time for anyone more than a Yugi fanatic. I understand not making them as broken as they are in the show, but these monsters are supposed to be the Gods of this game. Yet these rereleases are never gonna see the outside of a binder.
- First of all, sign your post! Second, that effect was probably omitted because of the fact that players always start with 8000 Life Points. Therefore, if this card is drawn and summoned early in the game, Ra will most likely have only 7900 ATK, which is still plenty, whereas if that effect was included, Ra would have had way more and it really would be broken. RedDrgn (talk • contribs) 02:49, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Why different effects?
I understand that they didn't want this card to be uber powerful.. but he is an Egyptian God! He should have received the immunities like Obelisk? Why on earth would the makers first A., get rid of the ATK/DEF gain, then B., get rid of all the special summoning, and C., get rid of the target immunity? They gave legal Obelisk nearly identical effects to his video game appearances. Why? Would have made more sense to make them powerful then just ban em.
(76.180.173.64 (talk) 23:48, February 19, 2011 (UTC))
- The reason why Ra had being nerf so hard is; Life Points payment would make it nearly impossible if he has same effect to Obelisk and nearly no way to get him down except by Honest at him. Obelisk has 4000 ATK/DEF, while Ra do not, which referring to not be able to bottomless trap hole or regular. Konami like to keep the game balance and making Divine-Beast legal, so that is the reason why they jacked Ra/Obelisk Special Summon power and fixing them into correct directions. --FredCat 23:58, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
- The problem behind your reasoning for Ra being nerfed is that Synchros are far easier to summon and have stupidly overpowered effects in addition to being mostly splashable. The fact that nearly every "upgraded" form of Red Dragon Archfiend is given blanket immunity to destruction effects for no reason while the Egyptian God Cards are stripped of that and given the laughably weak "cannot be targetted" effect, is further evidence that Konami doesn't know how to balance their own game. The "real" Egyptian God Cards are turning out to be pushovers that are more trouble than they're worth - they even took away Ra's Special Summon abilities and made them Normal Summon only, which takes away part of what made him unique. The simple fact of the matter is that the Egyptian Gods didn't need to be nerfed when there's so many unbalanced/overpowered cards released before them, many with much easier summoning conditions.24.217.80.86 (talk) 10:20, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
- "Winged Dragon of Ra" is just a lesser dragon that under the control of real Ra. While "Red Dragon Archfiend" is a real demon, which he can become more powerful with an update. That's one big difference, and you cannot make them in right way you want them to be. --FredCat 10:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
Under the control of real Ra? Real demon? You don't mean that serious, do you?--93.128.87.36 (talk) 13:32, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
- I think here is a missinterpretation of the language. "The Winged Dragon of Ra" does'nt mean "Ra's Winged Dragon", what it means is "Ra is the Winged Dragon", in meaning, and more like he is "THE Winged Dragon" and not "a winged dragon like some others". The Winged Dragon of Ra is not a dragon under the control of Ra, it is indeed Ra. Another example of the meaning of it's name and the structure what it is followed in it's name can be explained in the following example of the same structure given in this text: "as expected, 'the chicken of' Carl have not seen that movie because he is scared with anything". Here, 'the chicken of' is not making a reference to Carl's chicken, what it mean is that Carl is the chicken who they were talking about.
- So that was just an example, hope to have helped with that name issue.PyroPower (talk • contribs) 22:21, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
banned or not?
so is this card legal or not because i got a copy from a shonen jump magazine and idk if its legal
- Legal: "SHONEN JUMP Magazine Promos: Up to, and including, "Malefic Truth Dragon" (JUMP-EN048) and "Troposphere" from the SHONEN JUMP Scholastic Edition Magazine"[1] (though note the regional restriction on some SJ promos). 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:05, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
In the anime, the winged dragon of ra gained atk equal to the sum of the tributed monsters for its summon. Does this one receive that atk too.
No, because the effect text of the card doesn´t say so.--77.13.145.35 (talk) 12:07, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
