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Welcome

Welcome to my talk page! Here you can ask questions about my work or report any kind of grievance you feel you may have about it. Please try to be polite. Don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. Thank you.

Greek anime

Do you know if there is a Greek dub of the anime? -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:13, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Dark King of the Abyss

Thanks for helping me with the rebirth aspect of Dark King of the Abyss, I was actually editing the part with Dark Ruler Ha Des's revenge, but thanks anyway. Gotenks (GT) 02:23, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I choose to put Mind Trust were i put followers instead. thanks I gave you credit on helping me. Gotenks (GT) 02:37, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Emissary <--

Wow. It took me some time until i finally spelled him correctly, but I think it should be fine now. Thanks for that!

RE: Dedication Through Light And Darkness/Trivia Sector

To me it isn't, and I'm sure it isn't for a lot of other people. And even though it's called a Trivia section, it isn't worth mentioning every single little thing.PoirotH 20:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

And I suppose you do?PoirotH 04:04, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

First of all, that wasn't deleting. I just removed it like any other user could. Secondly, your reason for putting it there is equally ridiculous.PoirotH 15:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi there

(Γεια χαρά)! Your translations are pretty accurate. Do you have any blogs or user pages other than that so that we can talk about yu-gi-oh or other stuff? Lon3wolf 22:23, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine thanks :D Well, if you are registered in any sites like tcgplayer or tradecardsonline I can PM you from there. Lon3wolf 23:14, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Could you help me?

Hi there! I'm fine, what about you? Actually, I follow every page that I've kinda messed with, so that I can check whether there was a problem with my change or something. But you're right, I'm interested in checking greek names and making them the most accurate possible. I've thought of 2 translations for Lightning Punisher. Check the article to see one of those two and tell me if you feel it's ok. Lon3wolf 23:47, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

You don't sound hysterical at all. Actually being devoted to any "goal" of some sort is something you should be proud of. I was glad to help. Let me know if you want some more help on another article. Plus, if I find a better name for the punisher I'll tell you right away. Lon3wolf 13:06, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

-Χαιρετώ- Montechristo, i know you put quite an effort in writting all these translations -well i guess the game itself won't ever be officially translated in greek- but still you did an amazing job. I'm kinda lazy myself but i'll look forward to your work, see ya! --Ianus-kun 11:14, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Mangafox

They've got a few of the items on Mangafox. Don't go onto the forums though. It'll change you. (Don't add sig)

  • Well, from now on, Mangafox doesn't host the Yu-Gi-Oh! series anymore. They were removed due to copyright infrigement. So, searching for the stuff once again. Damn it..., I think I'll go buy it. --Montechristo95 23:40, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism

There's really no point in blocking it. The IP was only used once for half an hour to vandalise, almost a month ago. IPs are usually only blocked for just long enough to make the vandal go away, which has already happened. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:03, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Approximate name

Hello Montechristo95, I noticed that on your userpage, you say that one of the things you do around here is translate card names into Greek. If this is something you're still doing, are you aware of {{Approximate name}} and, if so, do you use it? It's extremely useful in the long run to track what card names are only approximate (or, perhaps, "unofficial" would be a better term... hmm...), since it lets editors know to keep an eye out for the card's official name, if YGO media is officially licensed in that language. Thanks in advance! and if it's not too much trouble, could you reply here? =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 21:49, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hi got your last message. Actually, to tell you the truth translating card names in greek is the ONLY useful thing i do here. I used to add lores and trivia too but i kicked that habbit. Anyway, i'm aware of the Approximate name template or whatever you call it. I have used it several times. But since it was a bit boring adding it all the time, i chose to offer this sentence as an edit summary: "Approximate greek name added". I thought it was pretty much the same and if someone wants to change or even revert my edits then he knows all abt them. Plus, lately i added a new section in my user page where i list all the names who have been loosely translated. I know most people don't give a crap abt them but who knows maybe someone could be interested. If you want me to add the "approximate name" thing each time i think it's necessary, then yes by all means i'll. After all i want my transaltions to be a 100% accurate. (yeah i know that's impossible)
In fact, the YGO series have already been translated in my language. Keep this between us; the translators did an awful work. Besides, i'm sure the game itself will never be translated in greek. I'm only doing this to help people who don't speak english so well. Aren't I a good Samaritan? LOL
BTW, what did you mean by saying "reply here"? Look, if you meant my Talk Page then i'm really sorry i replied here. I wasn't sure what you meant that's all. (dude, you have like 100 links in your signature!)
P.S. In extreme cases i've also created pages under the link card names where i give the literal translation. --Montechristo95 23:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
If adding it doesn't bother you too much, I'd appreciate it; otherwise, I can just use the list of cards on your userpage, as long as you keep it up-to-date. =)
Exactly what parts of the franchise have been translated (e.g. which manga/anime series, and what chapters/episodes of them, etc.)? This would help in coming up with a list of cards which *should* have official Greek names (I've got no comment on the quality of the Greek dub; if you say it's bad, I'll take your word for it ;) ).
Yep, "reply here" = "reply on this (your) talk page". Don't worry too much about it, it's easy enough to copy your replies over; I just asked because I prefer keeping discussion together (it comes from working on Wikipedia for so long). =) As for my signature: I don't think it's particularly many; there's one to my userpage, followed by one to my contributions, then one to a page which helps with displaying the Japanese characters in my sig, and lastly one to my talk page. It's actually pretty standard compared with other Wikipedia sigs, but on here it probably is kind of link-heavy. =)
It's no problem if you've created a Card Names: page for a given card, since {{Approximate name}} automatically links to that page if it exists. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:28, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Of course there is absolutely no problem with me adding the "approximate name".
As far as the manga is concerned, none of the chapters have yet been translated. When it comes to the anime, well, the first yugioh series has been dubbed. The same thing can be said for the capsule monsters. Season 0, GX and 5D's have not yet be translated. Now, abt the cards, well there are a few which have been correctly translated. Personally, i haven't watched the greek dub since i was 9. But i do remember some cards with characteristic names and i have been adding them. (although, some times i disagree whith the greek name given by the dub. i do it so that the rest of the greek fans don't get confused) BTW, yes you can rely on my word abt the dub. It was so awful, that the YGO franchise didn't have the expected succes in my country. I guess that explains why the other series were never translated and the ygo games is considered a games for little kids...
Sorry, i have never edited Wikipedia and i rarely visit it. If the sigs are that big well ok. It's a trivial matter after all. Didn't mean to put you through all that trouble copying my response.
Didn't know that! Hey that's cool! Oh boy i have A LOT to learn abt this wiki... --Montechristo95 23:50, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
All right, thanks, that'll help out. =)
So Yu-Gi-Oh! (first season anime) and Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters have been translated and released in Greek, but nothing else has, and probably ever will be, right?
Like I said, it's no problem copying your response, and don't worry too much if you don't know much about Wikipedia (or, for that matter, this wiki ;) ). If anything, in fact, feel free to ask me should you ever need help with anything; I can probably help you out, or point you to someone who can if I can't. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 00:18, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
Glad to be helpful.
You summarised them very good. sigh..i'm a chatty person
Currently there isn't anything i need to ask. But anyway thanks for your offer i really appreciate it. --Montechristo95 00:26, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
No problem; happy to help. And don't worry too much about being too chatty; I frequently find myself talking too much as well. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 00:29, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hi there!

Well, it surely is an approximation, one of the many, in one aspect i think it's right, the word i gave derives etymologically from the french word dandelion < dent de lion. i also like the "epic" feeling i get from such neologisms. However if you happen to find one more appropriate word, feel free to make a change. Ianus-kun 10:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Arcana Force

I'm not really sure. I don't use the Card Names namespace much. I think it was only made for documenting names that aren't listed on the card article and translations or notes for both official and approximate names. Definitions, I think, still go in the trivia pages.

I see no harm in adding citations, as long as they're sensible. e.g. The Oxford Dictionary would be a good source. Small name or publicly editable websites wouldn't. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:48, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary's not a primary source. Like a lot of wikis, it's good for looking stuff up, but it isn't proof. I think he added that as further reading rather than a source.
Normally I would post that on the trivia page, but since it applies to the entire "Arcana Force" series, not just individual members, I would mention it on the "Arcana Force" article. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:18, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I intended the Wikt links as further reading/more info. It's not the first time I've added links to Wiktionary around here, either; personally, I think we don't link to Wikipedia/Wiktionary/etc. often enough here. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:49, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Wiktionary huh? Nice site, i didn't know abt it. --Montechristo95 08:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Approximate card names

First of all, hello! I, like yourself, I believe, am Greek, from Crete. So χαιρετώ! (The rest of the post will be English though, and your translations have led me to believe you are very good at it!) It was decided some time ago in a forum thread with Deltaneos (admin) and a couple of translators, myself included, that card names that do not derive from the official translated anime are approximations. Of course, not all translators use that, so in general you can tag it as approximate or not and it won't matter, but it is better to clarify if the name appeared in the anime or not. For instance, Curse of the Masked Beast did appear in the anime as "Κατάρα του Μασκοφόρου Θηρίου" so no point in tagging it as an approximation. Crevice Into the Different Dimension on the other hand didn't appear in the anime, so we should tag it as an approximation. I did not correct or tag the translation with the intent of insulting or doubting you, I'm trying to follow policy and improve translations where applicable (most of the tranlslations you've produced have been excellent, good work!). I hope I have not offended you in any way, and believe that we can co-operate to translate many more names during the summer (something I intended to do for awhile). If you have any questions, feel free to ask me in my Talk Page. --Darth Covah (Talk | DeckZone | Binder) 21:02, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • Hmmm. Maybe we should ask Deltaneos about it, it'd suck if we had to go back to every translation of a card not in the anime and tag it as an approximation. Lots of unnecessary work. But I guess it's not important, especially since the anime didn't even finish airing. Anyway, it was good meeting you too! Και μην ανησυχείς, και εγώ μακρυγορώ πολύ συχνά... And I'm looking forward to our co-operation! --Darth Covah (Talk | DeckZone | Binder) 23:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
    • It's not about the dubbed anime being correct, it's about the translations being official. Policy dictates we should tag unofficial translations as approximations, regardless of how good they are. It's wiki policy, and we should follow it. I know you regard your translations highly, and so do I, for that matter, but this is not about us, but about informing others. Take yourself out of the equation, and try and look at it objectively. By tagging the translation as an approximation, you don't say "oh, I suck at English, so I'm gonna say that my translation is an approximation lulz". That's the wrong thing to think! You should understand that you're helping increase the amount of knowledge in the wiki. Even something as simple as tagging can go a long ways. --Darth Covah (Talk | DeckZone | Binder) 13:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
      • I'll try and get a list of Greek dubbed episodes. Cards that appear in them will have official translations. 99% of the cards don't have approximate translations. As for common translations for archetypes, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Personally, I translate names starting from LOB and moving to the next booster. So named archetypes don't come up for a while. However, for some names (such as Junk, which can be translated as "Σκουπίδι" or "Παλιοσίδερο"), whoever translates first gets to put their translation down, and if another translator disagrees, then we can discuss it. Deciding on the translation of all archetypes beforehand would be too laborious. --Darth Covah (Talk | DeckZone | Binder) 22:41, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

editing τα λατινικα ονοματα σε καρτες

καλησπερα. ο λογος που σου γραφω ειναι επειδη παρατηρησα οτι αφηνεις σε καποια ονοματα λατινικουυς χαρακτηρες ενω τα μεταφραζεις. απλα πιστευω οτι θα επρεπε να μην αφηνουμε λατινικους χαρακτηρες εφ'οσον ειναι να μεταφρασουμε σε ελληνικα, καθως η μεταφραση τοτε θεωρειται ελλειπης. επισης, παρατηρησα οτι στον saggi the dark clown, αντι να κανεις την σωστη εληνικη μεταφραση, προτιμησες να βαλεις το λανθασμενα μετεφρασμενο ονομα απο το ελληνικο ανιμε. απλα σου κανω αυτες τις παρατηρησεις για να γινεται σωστα η δουλεια μας. δεν νομιζω οτι το να μεταφραζουμε με τα ονοματα του ανιμε ειναι σωστο. πχ θα βαλεις δυναμη του κρανιου στο summoned skull? μετα τιμης Bassted

ok sorry for the greek, and i'm glad to know that you hate the greek dub too. but the fact that you're leaving english names in greek translation is wrong. if you think that it isn't wrong then i have a question: why don't the arabic(for example) users leave english names in their translations? i believe the translation should be exact and correct. as for the dubbed names, ok sorry i was wrong but again, the translation is too lame...

i can be sure of the spelling by thinking of every name in greek. almost every english word has its roots from the greek language. like armityle. αρμιτυλος. its like translating from greeklish. also, you should translate not only by the meaning of the words but by the meaning of the whole name.

and i'll say it again: that is not complete translation. and if you insist, what about behemoth? its a word that has a greek translation? where's the problem with that?

cause every dictionary i know and i searched translated behemoth as μεγαθήριο. a source is this page : http://dictionary.in.gr/