Forum:Aggro Pyro idea help?

Hey I'm making an aggro pyro burn deck and I would appreciate some helpful ideas. Unlike many burn decks, I want it to be more focused around offensive tactics, primarily utilizing "Piercing" effects like Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective to continuously deal battle damage every turn (in addition to burn damage). However, I do not want an archetypal deck; I might add a few Flamvells for support for example, but I don't want to turn it into a Flamvell deck.

this deck would be epitomized by the effects of Flamvell Uruquizas

cards I'm looking at so far are:

monsters

x3 Inferno (Monarch tribute-fodder; removal subtheme)

x3 Solar Flare Dragon

x2 Ultimate Baseball Kid (my fav. monster, so he stays)

x2 Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective

x2 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch

x1 Infernal Flame Emperor (removal subtheme)

x? Flamvell/Volcanic support cards?

spells

x2-3 Big Bang Shot (removal subtheme)

x1 Card Destruction/Hand Destruction

x1 Shrink

x1 Book of Moon

x1 Lightning Vortex

x1 Mystical Space Typhoon

x1 Brain Control

traps

x? Reckless Greed

x2 Backfire

x2 Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai

x1 Torrential Tribute

x1 Magic Cylinder

x1 Ceasefire

x1 Call of the Haunted

x1 Mirror Force

x1 Return from the Different Dimension (removal subtheme)

I am pretty experienced with "oldskool" fire burn, however I am not very experienced with the newer fire stuff. Help plz? ty--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 01:48, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Tips

Anyhow, i think i might be able to help. I once made an aggro burn deck in a game i played, utilizing Firewall and Helios as the main thing. It was a mix of burn and aggro tactics and usually worked pretty fine, though it had some dead draws from time to time.

Pyro beatsticks could include the 2 Elemental Heroes; Elemental Hero Heat and Elemental Hero Lady Heat. Especially Heat ^^ It's just some tips i can come up with right now.Hope it helps Ziedric 17:09, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I see how Lady Heat would be useful; with 3 on the field, they will each do at least 600 each per turn, but why Heat? Sure, he's a beatstick, but wouldn't he get the deck into a more E-Hero theme? Now, if he were to be powered up by Warrior-types, like UBK, then I might use him, yet still... ty though. How useful was Helios for you in your burn deck? I might add some removal stuff to my deck, but I don't know if I would use Helios.

Are there any more ideas/suggestions?--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 05:56, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

for an aggro fire deck , i would use Flamvell Grunika, thestalos firestorm monarch and molten destruction Raging flame sprite is a good card too. spiritual art kurenai would do the finishing touch to erase your opponent's life points also , magna drago is a good card , tuner lv 2 (+a no tuner lv4 , you have uruquizas) with 1400 atk , that increase by 200 , with molten destruction could get really annoying last thing , fox fire is good fodder supply for gaia.Aguz89 06:20, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, The first Helios kind flunked. Was always in the way. But the second and third form, they were nice, if you had a decent amount of pyros removed from play. I also used Infernal Flame Emperor, as it let me remove a good chunk of monsters, to destroy the backrow. I found Elemental Hero Heat quite useful. With 2 on the field, it's like 2k each in attack. backing up with a [[Solar Flare Dragon)) it was kinda nice. so I hoped that helped a little. Personally, i find aggro pyros kinda fun ^^ Ziedric 14:54, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The Deck so far...

I'm going for all out piercing power with 3 Big Bang Shot because that's basically the primary theme of the deck and they also are just awesome. Blazing Inpachis are there as beatstick pyros that are searchable by Flamvell Firedog and also help protect the Solar Flare Dragons. I decided to go with Mirror Force instead of a Firewall because of the lack of a significant amount of pyro fodder and that I decided not to go with a removal subtheme. Tell me how you think of it so far, plz. ty--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 05:32, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you're gonna be needing some real swarming power, for this deck to be able to work. Not sure if you have enough protection for the monsters imo. But then again, i haven't tested it out, so if it works, better yet ^^ Otherwise it looks kind of okay, only thing i don't know about is the Hand Destruction, maybe switch it out for something else, maybe something more aggressive, like a Shrink? =S Ziedric 11:24, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

The swarming power would be coming from Flamvell Firedog and Inferno. I debated whether to add UFO Turtle or The Thing in the Crater, but decided against it due to a loss of offensiveness. Hand Destruction was intended to be a replacement for Card Destruction, both used for drawpower and to get Fire monsters in the graveyard. As for monster protection, I didn't think I'd need it much since Backfire burns for every one of my Fire monsters that get destroyed, and many of the cards in the deck require Fire monsters in the graveyard anyway; so why don't I just let my opponent help me with my strategy? Could you elaborate on what exactly I would be protecting my monsters from? because a lot of these cards, like Book of Moon and Spiritual Fire Art, can effectively avoid and thus make ineffective many destroying cards. thanks for your replies.--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 23:41, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: I added Ojama Trio XD; actually, I don't know how I forgot to add it...--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 23:45, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Now with your explanation, i have nothing more to add xD I understand what it is this deck does, so i kind of have nothing more to comment on ^^ Nice deck ^^ Ziedric 12:57, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me, but what exactly does Ojama Trio DO? It doesn't look like you're using Secret Barrel or anything to combo... Runer5h 20:35, March 5, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

I would suppose it is to combo with inferno, to give nice burn dmg ^^ otherwise I'm clueless Ziedric 21:26, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

• combos with Torrential Tribute, Inferno, Big Bang Shot, and essentially anything else with piercing (like Flamvell Uruquizas), in addition to its usual usefulness. It's great with Inferno because many Infernos can potentially be special summoned at once, really racking up the burn damage (1500 + 300 x the # of Infernos = XD).

Ex: opponent has 2- monsters on field; activate Ojama Trio; activate Torrential Tribute (900 burn plus any potential Backfire burn); normal summon a monster and attack directly.--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 03:03, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hey peeps, how useful would a card like Soul of Fire be in this deck? The most damage I can do with it would be to remove Infernal Flame Emperor to inflict 1350dmg, but my opponent gets 1 draw and I can't attack on the turn. I ask because I just got one and it looks cool... I also finally got a Flamvell Uruquizas XD!! btw, when will Flamvell Grunika come out, because the store I go to doesn't have any yet?--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 02:16, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say no. It goes against your theme of aggro deck, even though it can provide some okay burn dmg, i advise against it, since it also gives you opponent a card. In this deck ,it has too many cons. Ziedric 12:20, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Aggro FIRE deck 2.0

I added Flamvell Magician to synchro for 7 and 8 stars easier. Also, I put my synchros up there. Maybe I should add Mirror Wall instead of Shrink since it halves all of my opp's monsters? Also, when will Flamvell Grunika come out in english?--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 02:31, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

You may appreciate some copies of cards like UFO Turtle and Rekindling. They'll be more useful than your copies of Ojama Trio, that's for sure. Runer5h 02:35, March 14, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

And I would drop Blazing Impachi for another Flamvell Firedog, or something of the sort.--Akiza Izayoi 03:07, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Runer5h: so you're suggesting I drop my Ojama Trio for both Rekindling and at least 1 UFO Turtle? Anything else I should take out to keep it at 40?

Akiza: I thought that at first, however Firedog unfortunately can't summon copies of itself, so adding a third and removing one of the monsters that it can search for didn't seem best in my opinion. I might swap the Inpachi for a Grunika, if I ever get 3 of them, but since they apparently haven't even come out yet I'll just keep some Inpachis as decent placeholders.--SantaOrc26 (Talk) 07:56, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could also remove a copy of Gaia Soul for the UFO Turtle. Runer5h 16:09, March 14, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h