Forum:Black Rose v Union and PTD

i was curious if black rose dragon's effect can destroy an appropriate monster equipped with a union monster, and if it can destroy Power Tool Dragon when equipped with an equip card. Drowcon (talk • contribs) 23:17, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Black rose cant destroy the monster equipped with an union if the union says "Destroy this card instead.". If the union says " YOU CAN destroy this card instead." then black rose will destroy the union and the monster.

Power tool will be destroy by black rose. MobiusxXx (talk • contribs) 23:40, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

There is a ruling for Union Monsters that state that if the Union Monster and the monster that it is equipped to is marked for destruction, then both of them will be destroyed. (No matter what kind of Union Monster it is)-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 02:31, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

But "Deus Ex machina" and ATEMVEGETA told me that the effect of the union monster is mandatory and will be destroy instead of the monster... Have this ruling changed? MobiusxXx (talk • contribs) 02:38, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, it was found out that it was a false e-mail ruling from someone. See Forum:E-Mailed Rulings from Konami.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 02:41, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

=O wow heavy, thanx ...HHDT are you an official judge of konami? MobiusxXx (talk • contribs) 02:45, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, I wish I could say yes but I'm not an official judge.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 02:47, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

=O ok, is ok anyways. The thing is that 2 officials judges told me that they have an official page of rulings only for judges. But they say when the effect of "flip flop frog" is activated to return monster when is attacked face down and flipped face up, the "flip flop frog" does not count has 1 frogs because is consider to be destroy. is that true or they are wrong? MobiusxXx (talk • contribs) 02:54, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lols HH may not be an official judge but he knows a heck of alot more than me and I AM an official Judge. Being official or not means nothing by Konami Standards, their are some crappy ones you know XD. Kearowind (talk • contribs) 02:56, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 02:59, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

To MobiusxXx: They are wrong. The effect of Flip Flop Frog activates and resolves during Sub-step 6 of the Damage Step. Monsters that are destroyed by battle will be sent to the graveyard during Sub-step 7 . Therefore, Flip Flip Frog is still on the field when it is resolving its effect.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 02:58, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

You deserve compliments. You seem to have an awesoem grasp of the most confusing game i have ever played.

AND FINE I GET IT

....sheesh...

i will just print out the breakdown of the battle phase and study it until i know as much as you HHT XD

>: It's on HHT i will be as good as you D:<

(i mean i knew about flip flop but i couldn't explain it like that >:) Kearowind (talk • contribs) 14:55, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

You know what's the funniest thing about this is I have never played YGO in real life before. Haha.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 14:58, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

~jaw drop~

but why not?????

D:<<<< yugioh is a children's card game there is no more win than when it is played by adults

Kearowind (talk • contribs) 15:11, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I live in Malaysia and yes, we do play OCG. However, I'm unlucky enough to live in the only state where YGO is practically non-existent. Hopefully, that may change when I head south to Singapore where I can witness some real-life dueling.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 15:14, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

damn

what language do they speak there?

your english is perfect! XD

ewww ocg jkjk

well i gotta head off to my locals but still answer my question D:< Kearowind (talk • contribs) 15:22, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, our national language is Bahasa Malaysia (trans: Malaysia's language). It is similar to Bahasa Indonesia (trans:Indonesia's language). It's can be used if you live in Malaysia, Indonesia or maybe even Singapore, but it's practically useless everywhere else.

I don't know how to explain my English. Maybe it's because my family speaks English well and that I grew up watching Disney Channel. (I'm weird like that.)-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 15:30, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, good luck at your Locals.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 15:30, July 17, 2010 (UTC)