Forum:Harpie Deck Help

I was just wondering if anyone would possibly have any suggestions or tips to make my deck any better than it currently is. Some cards I would love to have (Raiza the Storm Monarch, Mirror Force, etc.) I either can't find or afford, but I still think there's room for improvement within my means, just looking for a push in the right direction.

Ever heard of a card called Hunter Owl? With it you may be able to pull off some very high ATKs on your monsters. Also, you may want to consider Battlestorm for even more S/T destruction than you were getting from Hunting Ground. Runer5h 23:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h

I'm not wholly sure that Blackwings would fit with my deck, even Battlestorm who really does have a nice effect. Battlestorm would get the +200 ATK from Harpies' Hunting Ground, sure, but that leaves him with 1900 ATK, which Harpie Queen has from the start. And Battlestorm doesn't get the +300 per Harpie Lady 1 effect, because that's only Wind. I really don't think the sacrificed ATK power is worth the effect (because he would be easily killed and targeted for his effect), though I could be wrong.

About Hunter Owl, he's -really- rare, being a game promo of a game that's been discontinued. A quick scan of my friends who play and our local card shop returned 1 total, and it was 15 dollars. eBay isn't much different, only a few and of those there some aren't Mint. Looks to be an extremely nice card, though.

Thanks for the tips.

P.S. I noticed in my original post I omitted Call of the Haunted, though it is definitely in there. Not sure why it's not there. I have also replaced Card Destruction with Phalanx Pike.

The last I checked, TrollandToad was selling Hunter Owl for about $9 or so. Their shipping rates are great too, so you may want to give them a try.

Also A Feather of the Phoenix might be a nice card to include, to help you retrieve some spell/trap/or monster card ( Harpie Queen ?) that you might need in a pinch.

Finally, you might want to check up on Wind type beasties after the release of Stardust Overdrive and Hidden Arsenal. Lots of neat critters coming out in these sets.

Kungfu-mama 19:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Just a thought, do you guys think this would work? In hindsight of Stardust Overdrive, adding Majestic Star Dragon to my Extra Deck. For support, remove 2 Swift Birdman Joe (easily my least-used monster) and 1 Elegant Egotist (because if I start the summoning chain with a Lady 1, I can't use all 3 anyway) and add 1 Sangan (to search for one of the subsequent two), 1 Tuningware, and 1 Majestic Dragon. I would hope to have drawn the other one by the time I could even hope to get Majestic Star Dragon out in the first place. I'd still be relying on the Monk/Rose combo to get out Stardust Dragon, it works quite well.

Edit/Addendum -- Upon looking a little closer at Stardust Overdrive, I came across this gem: Stardust Xiaolong. It would appear this would be a better alternative to Tuningware, in that it would be a lot easier to get out (for losing the ability to draw a card, but if it makes the summoning easier I could deal). I could use it for Lightning Vortex/Hysteric Party or even a Tribute if necessary to get it to the Graveyard. This way, Sangan would be completely dedicated to getting out Majestic Dragon and it would be a bit more tuned to each card having a specific role to carry out.

Also, was wondering if it would be worth it to shoot for Guardian Eatos, at least maybe for Side purposes. Would require a lot of luck to get her early, but she could be quite devastating if I drew Phalanx Pike early as well.

Majestic seems pretty tough to get out to me, but you might want to wait for others to comment on that. I also had another thought: Since you can't afford Raiza the Storm Monarch, you might want to take a look at Storm Shooter. He might help you out.

Kungfu-mama 16:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I have with Storm Shooter is that he's a two-Tribute monster (my friend has one and I'm sure she'd trade it to me if I needed it), and I try and keep my deck as fast as possible (Simorgh is a two-Tribute normally but I can get around that with Wind Effigy). I realize trying to stall just a little for Synchros isn't exactly blitzing, but the end result is usually worth it. A Feather of the Phoenix has the same problem, it could be nice in certain situations, but say I draw it early, it doesn't serve much use other than maybe Summoner Monk fodder to use to get out Rose, but could also prevent me from getting a card I really do need. I may give Storm Shooter a go, just to see how he goes though. Still thinking about getting at least two (if not three) Hunter Owls but the problem I have there is what do I replace? I don't like to have more than 40 cards because it just makes the chances of getting what I need lower.

Rising Air Current should be a great addition to your deck, just more effective in boosting damage than Harpie's Hunting Ground, and can be activated at any time.--MrD

Well, it seems like the focus of this deck right now is more on getting out big winged-beast monsters. But it sounds like you'd like to do more synchro summoning. If that's the case, you might want to think about dropping some of your high level monsters for some of the smaller monsters that will help you do that, like more Harpies, Hunter Owl, or even another Rose.

You could always try to offset the loss of the big monsters by folding in spell cards like Brain Control, Enemy Controller, or even, maybe a United We Stand.

Just things to think about.

Kungfu-mama 11:17, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Well as it stands, my ideal field is currently 3 Harpie Lady 1s, Simorgh, Bird of Ancestry, Stardust Dragon, Harpies' Hunting Ground, and Hysteric Party. This plays out to have a total attack power force of 14600, and the three Harpies (the weakest units on the field that are making the strongest units stronger) are expendable because I can just keep bringing them back. Alternatively I can let them die, summon a Harpie Queen, and give her Phalanx Pike so she gets boosted to 6600 attack and becomes a super beatstick beyond belief. If I can't get out Stardust Dragon, then Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon takes his spot, again ideally with the three Harpie Lady 1s on the field. Can't (well could but it would be pointless) put Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon on the field until I have at least two Harpies out though, else he gets picked off pretty easy.

About Rising Air Current, I do acknowledge that it would make everyone stronger (not just my Winged Beasts), but the frequency of destroying my opponent's spells and traps by using Hysteric Party is just too good to pass up. United We Stand I could see being a super supplement to my field strategy (give it to Stardust/Simorgh), it's just too bad it doesn't affect everyone like Aqua Chorus does with Harpies.

Sounds like you're pretty happy with your deck the way it is, overall. The only change you might want to consider, then, is swapping out your Rose, Warrior of Revenge for Mist Valley Soldier when it comes out on Nov 10th. MVS will take advantage of your Harpie's Hunting Ground, and has a pretty nifty effect to boot. Then, you could always sell or trade of your Rose for a Hunter Owl!

BTW, Chthonian Alliance is another card you might want to take a look at too.

Hope that helps.

Kungfu-mama 23:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I've made some serious modifications to my side deck, and also have added another Stardust Dragon and a Majestic Star Dragon to my Extra Deck. Subbed in Majestic Dragon/Stardust Xiaolong in for the two Swift Birdman Joes and took out one Elegant Egotist for Sangan to fish out Majestic Dragon. I've actually had quite pleasant results from this setup, although I find it quite funny that I draw all the cards I need before actually getting Sangan in most cases, so he might go out in lieu of something else. Of course, as soon as I remove him, I'm certain I'll stop getting such lucky draws. I added the second Stardust Dragon because I can use Call of the Haunted on Rose and Tune another, so why have one when you can have two? =3

Swapping Rose for Mist Valley Soldier wouldn't really make a lot of sense to me, especially given I don't (and wouldn't think I should) use this card for any offensive capabilities. Pretty much, it's Summoner Monk + Spell Card -> Rose -> Stardust Dragon. If it works out such that I draw Rose before Summoner Monk, then I just tune her with the first available (and one that would make sense) Level 4 Monster that I can.

I looked at Chthonian Alliance, I considered Chthonian Alliance, but in all honesty I really don't feel it's as good as Phalanx Pike because the maximum attack yield I can get with Chthonian Alliance is 3200 while with Phalanx Pike I can get 4500. Especially because I can power-up Phalanx Pike of my own volition for the most part, the only time this is really a problem is against decks that use Macro Cosmos and the like, in which case Phalanx Pike goes out for a more useful card like Spirit Reaper or Rising Air Current.

I'm still considering Hunter Owl heavily, adding three of them to my Side in the event that I face a deck that uses Raiza the Storm Monarch or other Wind monsters. They would replace my Harpie Lady 1s so that I could still have a strong attack force and yet not be aiding my enemy. In this event, Phalanx Pike would also most likely go out for Spirit Reaper or something similar.

One last thing of note is that I've added Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode and Assault Mode Activate to my Side Deck. When I'm facing particularly slow decks, I can actually get this to work pretty well, being able to stall as well as Pot of Avarice if need be should I draw the monster before the trap. It's not really worth it against most decks, but for some it's pretty handy. I take out Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon and Sangan to toss these two in and it works like a charm. I've actually managed to get out all three forms of Stardust Dragon out in the same Duel on one occasion.

I really do appreciate all the advice and the helpful tips, I think the only for-sure upgrades that I see right now would be Mirror Force for sure, and maybe Raiza if I can ever get my hands on them. Hunter Owl is also quite definite if I can nab them at a decent price. Troll and Toad may be my best bet.

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Oh, I'm so sorry to drag this topic back up, but I had a thought. Replacing Sangan for One for One. It's not that rare a card, it's just that I'd have to go out and get some Raging Battle boosters and other than MAYBE Battlestorm, there's literally nothing else in those packs and I'd rather not be wasteful.

I was just wondering if it was really a good idea, the thought process going into it being that Sangan is much more versatile, though for my purposes all I'd want him for would be to pull Majestic Dragon. Using One for One would make me discard from my hand as a cost, but I would also be able to get Majestic Dragon out instantly instead of having to wait for Sangan to be sent to the Graveyard. I would just lose Sangan's ability to search the majority of my monsters.

So it would either be:

1. Use Stardust Xiaolong as a cost for Lightning Vortex/Hysteric Party or allow him to be destroyed.
2. Synchro Summon Stardust Dragon, Special Summon Stardust Xiaolong from the Graveyard.
3. Activate One for One to Special Summon Majestic Dragon.
4. Synchro Summon Majestic Star Dragon.

-or-

1. Use Stardust Xiaolong as a cost for Lightning Vortex/Hysteric Party or allow him to be destroyed.
2. Set Sangan in Face Down Defense.
3. Allow Sangan to be destroyed.
4. Add Majestic Dragon to my Hand.
5. Synchro Summon Stardust Dragon, Special Summon Stardust Xiaolong from the Graveyard.
6. Presumably next turn (for Summoner Monk took last turn) Normal Summon Majestic Dragon.
7. Synchro Summon Majestic Star Dragon.

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Even better! In the event that my hand contains Summoner Monk, One for One, Stardust Xiaolong, and another Spell card, I can get out Majestic Star Dragon in one turn!!

1. Normal Summon Summoner Monk.
2. Activate Summoner Monk's effect by discarding the other Spell card in my hand to Special Summon Rose.
3. Activate One for One by discarding Stardust Xiaolong to Special Summon Majestic Dragon.
4. Synchro Summon Stardust Dragon, Special Summon Stardust Xiaolong from the Graveyard.
5. Synchro Summon Majestic Star Dragon.

The only thing that could really get in my way would be Spells and Traps, but if my deck's working properly that shouldn't be an issue.

Looks like a really nice deck to me. (Necroing this to give reference help to other aspiring Harpie Duelists) Your Syncro strategy really helped me out, I'd have never thought to include syncros in a Harpie deck till I saw this. Instead of Rose, Warrior of Revenge though, there's a new tuner you could use, Mist Valley Soldier, and Swallow's Nest is a nice new winged beast support card too. 70.247.169.204 19:44, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

BTW. "'m still considering Hunter Owl heavily, adding three of them to my Side in the event that I face a deck that uses Raiza the Storm Monarch or other Wind monsters." but.. it only gains attack for ones on your side of the field-14:32, March 25, 2010 (UTC)