Forum:Lightsworns and Veiler
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Well, the Search function isn't workin'. If a Lightsworn monster's effect is negated by Effect Veiler, will it mill cards in the End Phase?
How exactly do chains like this resolve in the End Phase, and why? 207.233.120.2 (talk) 17:06, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Effect Veiler's effect only activates in the opponent's main phase and negates all effects of the target monster "...until the end phase". Assuming the target is a Lightsworn with a milling effect that triggers during the end phase, it will still activate because Veiler's effect runs out at the start of the end phase. If Veiler's text said "...during this turn", all effects of the lightsworn monster would be negated and no cards would be milled by it.--Dragonking (talk • contribs) 21:58, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Here is a ruling that backs up what Dragonking said. -- Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 22:15, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Alector, Sovereign of Birds negates effects "during this turn". Not until the End Phase.
- Effect Veiler is until the End Phase.
As I have said many times before (including questions such as Brain Control vs. Lightsworns, etc)Since both effects occur at the same time, the Turn Player can choose the order in which to apply/resolve these effects.Slightly different situation, see below.- -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:43, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused here. "Until the End Phase" means that the effect still applies in the End Phase? Like, the effect doesn't wear off as soon as the End Phase starts, it wears off whenever the turn player decides to have it wear off? -- Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 00:54, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:56, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, just noticed that there is a slight difference compared to the other questions.
- The previous questions are about the turn player controlling both effects. This is you controlling one, and the opponent controlling the other. In this case, it uses Priority.
- The Turn Player can choose to mill first (negated), or pass Priority.
- If they passed, then the opponent can choose to stop negating there, or continue to negate (pass Priority back)
- If they continue to negate, Priority passes back to the Turn Player, so they are now forced to mill (negated).
- -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:23, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
