Forum:Revived King Ha Des vs. Wind-Up Zenmaines
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Since Revived King Ha Des negates the effects of monsters it destroys, normally this will apply if the monster was destroyed. But Zenmaines can negate it's own destruction by detaching a material, right? So, that would mean that since Zenmaines isn't destroyed, Revived King Ha Des can't negate Wind-Up Zenmaines's effect, right? NickTheForbiddenOne (talk • contribs) 01:42, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Base on this ruling from "Dark Ruler Ha Des": If "Kiseitai" is attacked by a Fiend-Type monster while "Dark Ruler Ha Des" is on the field, its effect prevents damage calculation, so it is not destroyed and its effect is NOT negated. (Unofficial from UDE)
- I am sure that if the monster don't "leaving the field", then it can't be negated by "Ha Des" monster(s) effect. So "Wind-Up Zenmaines" can remains on the field with it Material detached to preventing it destruction. "Kiseitai" is only not "leaving the field", but to shifting it location from Monster Slot to the Spell/Trap Slot, though it's not true with "Crystal Beast". --iFredCat 01:52, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Ha Des says that it negates the effects of monsters that were already destroyed by battle. Zenmaines prevents its destruction, so it won't be negated. 176.116.153.18 (talk) 16:45, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
