Forum:Yubel Priority

could you help me , what happend if i activate divine wrath to yubel for negate the effect that special summon to yubel-terror incarnate? can i negate the special summon?? thanks ----

• Yes you can! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 08:44, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Okay so I've been tryin to make the perfect yubel deck, which in my case, involves using a lot of combos with the second form.

So i'm here with some priority questions. With Spirit monsters like Fushi No Tori, they return to the owners hand DURING the end phase of the turn they are summoned, normal summoned, or special summoned.

Yubel - Terror Incarnate's effect destroys everything DURING the end phase.

So here's the problem i'm having..

Do these effects happen at the same time and nothing happens in the end or does one have more priority over the other?

I'd love to know.

Thanks TIMY

It depend whose player's End Phase is and whose player controls each monster:

1) If your End Phase:

a) If you control Yubel - Terror Incarnate and the opponent controls Fushi No Tori, then you have the priority to use the effect of Yubel - Terror Incarnate first.

b) If you control Fushi No Tori and the opponent controls Yubel - Terror Incarnate, then you have the priority to use the effect of Fushi No Tori first.

c) If one player controls you control both monsters then he chooses you choose which effect will activate first.

2) If your opponent's End Phase:

a) If you control Yubel - Terror Incarnate and the opponent controls Fushi No Tori, then you opponent have the priority to use the effect of his Fushi No Tori first.

b) If you control Fushi No Tori and the opponent controls Yubel - Terror Incarnate, then you opponent have the priority to use the effect of his Yubel - Terror Incarnate first.

c) If one player your opponent controls both monsters then he chooses which effect will activate first.

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 05:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

You say the turn play has the priority to use their effect first. Are they forming a chain, or are they happening at separate times? If they're on a chain, can you pass priority on an effect like that to resolve first? Aserik 10:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

• They are not forming chain. They are activated separate. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 10:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

So does the same go for trap\monsters my opponent activates? For instance, shadow shield gardna i believe it's called is a trap card summoned as a monster up until the end phase, where it returns to the magic\trap zone. so if my opponent plays that during my turn and i have Terror Incarnate out i get priority over his monster\trap?

• Yes. Turn Player always hes priority to activate/apply his effects first. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 05:58, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

but............

i see what he is saying here but does'nt he pass on his priority during his end phase?

but even so he would have control over when his monsters die and he gets to choose when that trap card is set again?

• Sorry! I can't understand the questions! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 16:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

• Yubel 2nd form's effect only happens during the end phase of it's owner, not during each person's end phase. So if Player A brings out a Spirit Monster it returns to the hand during Player A's end phase (unless something is on the field that prevents this) and Player B has Yubel 2nd on their field, during Player B's end phase Yubel nukes all other monsters.

If Player A or B has both Yubel and a Spirit Monster on their field, Player A or B gets to choose what effect happens first. ~MEOW~ Might of the BIRD Empire~~ 19:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

• Oups! Yubel#2 activates only during Turn Player's End Phase. So forget the deleted post. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 19:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes, you will have simultaneous effects attempting to activate at the same time, such as when "Mystic Tomato" attacks another "Mystic Tomato", or 2 Sangans are sent to the Graveyard at the same time, because of the effect of "Dark Hole".

Whenever you have simultaneous effects, you always resolve them in a Chain, even if they are "Spell Speed 1" effects. This is a special case when "Spell Speed 1" effects can be chained to each other, because they are all trying to activate at the same time, and the players are not "choosing" to activate them.

If only one player has simultaneous effects being activated, or effects that resolve in a specific Phase (Such as when the effects of "Brain Control", "Change of Heart", and "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" all have to resolve during the End Phase), then that player can choose the order in which they resolve.

In cases such as this, the Turn Player is the one whose effect will go first on the Chain Stack as Chain Link 1, followed by the opponent, who automatically becomes Chain Link 2. The Chain then resolves in reverse, so the opponent will get the resolution of his effect first, followed by the Turn Player.

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• With that^^^ being the case, a lot of what you guys said gets thrown off.

If I pick which effects go first then my opponent gets a chance to chain my spell speed 1 with their own. To my understand chains resolve in reverse order, so if my opponent has a face down spirit monster and i attack it with Yubel, it gets flipped up starting the effect.

• So during my end phase, i would choose to activate my effect first, then he'd chain it with his and resolving it in reverse causes him to get his monster before i can nuke it.

• That little page also makes the Yubel/chain destruction combo wrong, seeing how i have to choose which one activates first, that leaves one incarnate out on the field with 2 ultimates out.

• With what i posted previously, i have yubel - terror incarnate out and i summon fushi no tori during my main phase. my opponent activates cyber shadow gardna, which is summoned to his side of the field as a monster.
• I don't want to lose my fushi no tori so during my end phase i activate fushi's effect first, he gets a chance to chain his monster to it and it returns to his magic\trap zone. if i start that chain, it would resolve backward causing yubel to nuke everything before the chain happens.

• so what exactly DOES happen? This is all confusing me..

The effects are activated separately. It goes like this:

(1) The End Phase approaches

(2) The Turn Player (TP) has priority to activate a spell speed 2 or higher effect, or resolve a trigger effect (optional or mandatory), or pass. If TP activates/resolves an effect, after the chain resolves, return back to (2).

(3) If TP passes then the priority comes to Non-Turn Player (NTP) to activate a spell speed 2 or higher effect, or resolve a trigger effect (optional or mandatory), or pass. If NTP activates/resolves an effect, after the chain resolves, return back to (2).

(4) If NTP also passes and if the TP has a mandatory effect unresolved, he must resolve it now. After the chain resolves, return back to (2). If TP hasn't any mandatory effects unresolved, move to (5).

(5) If the NTP has a mandatory effect unresolved, he must resolve it now. After the chain resolves, return back to (2). If NTP hasn't any mandatory effects unresolved, move to (6).

(6) The End Phase ends. Both players must discard cards due to hand size limit.

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 21:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The problem is, effects that activate "during the «» Phase" or "at the end of the turn" do not form a Chain - see the rulings for "Gladiator Beast" cards as an example:

If 2 or more “Gladiator Beast” monsters attack or are attacked during the Battle Phase, at the end of the Battle Phase the effect of each “Gladiator Beast” monster can be activated. The effects will activate and resolve separately. They are not combined onto the same Chain.

You would play it as ATEMVEGETA said.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 21:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

So about the chain destruction/yubel combo, If i have 3 terror incarnates on the field due to chain destruction(like the tips states), i would still be stuck with 2 ultimates and a terror incarnate right?

I'd have to choose one of the 3 incarnates to activate first.. — This unsigned comment was made by This Is My Yubel (talk • contribs) 21:45, 3 April 2009

Right. Choose one "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" and activate its effect. It will destroy the other two "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" and allow you to Special Summon two copies of "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare". The other two copies of "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" are no longer on the field, so their effects will not activate. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 19:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Exactly so the tips for yubel needs to be edited, you cannot get 3 yubel ultimates out with chain destruction and whatever else.

Edits would be nice.

• The tip is correct. It says that you can activate Chain Destruction when Yubel is summoned to destroy the other 2 from the hand/deck and, after Chain Destruction resolves, they will bring out 2 Yubel - Terror Incarnate forming a SEGOC. Then simply destroy the 3rd Yubel and you will have 3 Yubel - Terror Incarnate on the field. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 06:29, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It kinda works.

You Summon "Yubel", and then activate "Chain Destruction". "Chain Destruction" resolves and destroys the two "Yubel" in your Deck. During the End Phase, one copy of "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" will destroy the other "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" and "Yubel". Their effects will activate, and Summon "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" and "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare". Then the effect of the "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" activates and destroys "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare" and "Yubel - Terror Incarnate". The effect of "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" activates Special Summons "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare".

In total, "Yubel" + "Chain Destruction" gives you one "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" and one "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare".

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 21:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

-* I Have a yubel related question my self....-

Yubel - Terror Incarnate's effect clearly states that when remove from field its effect activates....does this include when you tribute terror incarnate...because he was remove from field....???

pls help

Remember that you can miss the timing to activate the effect of "Yubel - Terror Incarnate". If "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" is Tributed as a cost, then he will miss the timing and you will not activate the effect. If "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" is Tributed as an effect (such as your opponent's "Share the Pain"), then it was removed from the field, so its effect will activate. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 14:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yubel - Terror Incarnate is she, not he.

Also, Yubel - Terror Incarnate misses the timing if she is tributed for a tribute summon.

Also, if Yubel - Terror Incarnate is tributed by an effect and that isn't the last thing to happen to that effect, then she misses the timing.

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 18:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I dont get it..... and yubel is kind of like a he than a she...(no breast)

You don't get what? Yubel's gender?

According to the anime, Yubel (and its forms) are female!

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 11:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

In the Japanese anime, Yubel is both. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 18:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)