Talk:Antinomy (original)

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Deletion

I do not see a reason for this article to exist. All the information is already in the Bruno article, and I see no reason to move it here. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:58, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Antinomy the old man that died in the future and Bruno the robot that died against Yusei in the present are two actual separate characters. Same goes for the Fusion Aporis and movie!Paradox. This needs to be more explicitly shown that they are different. Bruno and Aporias Emperors are like the Jackbot in a sense, only waaay more important, obviously. —This unsigned comment was made by 166.205.8.196 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

They have all the memories of their original forms. For all intents and purposes, they are the same character, with the only difference being their mechanical bodies. This doesn't need to be more explicitly shown, what is mentioned about them in the main articles more than suffices, IMO. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:26, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Still different enough as they are separate. If Aporias freaking PARENTS who had like two seconds of screentime and have no separate characteristics between them can have their own articles Bruno and Antinomy should have them. —This unsigned comment was made by 70.162.99.59 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I can understand why someone would want the original and synthetic Antinomys to have separate articles. I disagree however, but I find it hard to explain why.

They have different bodies and whether the deceased Antinomy's consciousness existed in the mechanical one is unspecified/unknown/debatable. That would suggest they were different entities. Antinomy died, then he was recreated so his life could be continued. The recreation has the exact same personality, thoughts, memories, goals and role in the story.

In my opinion, what determines whether people are considered separate fictional characters or not is down to their role in the story more so than whether they're scientifically different entities. Sometimes it means different entities are the same character and sometimes it means the same entity is different characters.

Imagine you ask someone who their favourite character is. They're more likely to say "Antinomy" and refer to both entities than say something like "the mechanical Antinomy". And for the opposite case, imagine Yusei and Z-one actually were the same person (I know it's been proven that they're not) and you ask someone who their favourite character is. They might say either "Yusei" or "Z-one". They'd hardly say something that refers to both.

-- Deltaneos (talk) 23:09, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

For one with Yusei/Z-one, I am still believe that they're same person, due to Criminal Mark being unique, addressed by Polices back in First Season 1, Part 1. (Which is after Episode 5, during prison) --FredCat 23:12, February 25, 2011 (UTC)