Forum:Royal Oppresion

I kind of understand how this card works but then I thought about gladiator beast and got a little confused. Would I chain it to Test Tiger being sent to the graveyard or contact fusion?? If I already have it out I can practically negate most of the special summonig from a glad deck right? Also if I was to chain it I would do so to the monsters being sent back to the deck to bring out a new one right?69.111.115.10 03:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You can activate Royal Oppression in respond to an inherent special summon as Test Tiger's or Fusion monsters that are summoned by contact fusion.

If Test Tiger's ignition effect is activated Royal Oppression can be chained to negate the effect, since it special summons a monster.

To the last question: Yes you can!

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 05:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I activate Monster Reborn, and my opponent responds with a face-down royal oppression, I then chain return from the differnt dimension. Can he negate it again with the same oppression? will the answer differ if the oppression was already face-up? War Pigg 09:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, your opponent can chain his face-down Royal Oppression, and, due to the rulings on Ignition-like effects for Trap Cards, he can activate Royal Oppression's effect in the same Chain Link. If you Chain another card that has an effect that SS monster(s), your opponent can chain Royal Oppression again, so long as he/she has LP to pay. If ROyal Oppression was already face-up, the same situation would occur. --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 10:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Royal Oppression cannot be activated multiple times during the same chain. That's because its initial activation has not resolved yet. It's the same as Light and Darkness Dragon. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 10:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

• O_o need to double-check that! Didn't even think about it! Thanks for correcting me ATEM. Now I know how to evade that pesky Royal Oppression :D. --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 16:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You cannot do that because you just activated (flipped face-up) "Royal Oppression". "Royal Oppression" has not resolved, so you cannot activate its Quick-Like effect.

If "Royal Oppression" was already face-up on the field before the Chain started, then you could activate its effect multiple times and negate both cards.

"Light and Darkness Dragon" is the exception, not the rule. It cannot activate multiple times in the same Chain because otherwise it would try to negate itself.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 17:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Deus! I forgot to write the situation of Royal Oppression being already face-up. Also, yes, Light and Darkness Dragon is a bit different. ;) ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 17:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hold on a sec here you confused me! I remember a ruling being issued that stated that you can activate Ignition-like effects of a Trap Card when you first flip it face-up (i.e. cards like Royal Oppression). Has that ruling changed, or did it never exist (and I live in an alternate dimension)? Or is it somewhat like that? Please clarify! --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 20:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

When you first activate Royal Oppression (or any other card with ignition-like effect) you decide if you want to use also its also its effect.

As I said (but not clarify), when you first activate Royal Oppression you cannot activate its effect later in the same chain because Royal Oppression" hasn't resolved yet. (You cannot activate the effect of an unresolved card).

As Deus Ex Machina added, if Royal Oppression was already activated, you can use its effect in the same chain again.

ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 20:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm yeah that makes a lot more sense. Kudos to you guys for clearing things up. --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 20:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Does Royal Oppression Targets? So that Cards like 'Tytannial, Princess of Camelias' and 'Thought Ruler Archfiend' can negate them.220.255.7.181 09:09, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, it does not Target. Falzar FZ 09:12, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gladiator Beasts vs Royal Oppression

Royal Oppression's ruling says it can only negate the effect of a spell, trap, or effect monster that special summons, not the actual summon. Gladiator Beasts' ruling says when they return to the deck, it is classified as a cost to special summon another one from the deck. Since it is a cost, can Royal Oppression negate that effect or the summon?

Yes you can Solastramage666 08:30, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

How can you negate it if it says the effect and gladiator beasts' effect counts as a cost and not an effect. — This unsigned comment was made by 76.234.37.8 (talk • contribs) 19:59, October 14, 2009

It says you can negate the special summon of a monster or monsters and the cards that special summon monster or monsters which means if your opponent summons GB Gyzarus or any gladbeast and royal oppression is chained to it or is flipped face up and u choose to activate its effect the summon is negated it negates both 67.58.234.7 22:58, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Returning the "Gladiator Beast" monster is the cost to activate the effect which Special Summons the monster. Special Summoning the monster is done by an effect.

The effect of the "Gladiator Beast" which Special Summons another one is an effect which activates and starts a Chain Link. It Special Summons a monster, so "Royal Oppression" can negate it.

Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~, since that automatically creates a signature for you.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 23:39, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

YES IT NEGATES GORZ!!! — This unsigned comment was made by 97.116.79.97 (talk • contribs) 00:56, February 16, 2010

Err, since when are we talking about "Gorz"?

Regardless, "Royal Oppression" can only be used if "Gorz" is Summoned outside of the Damage Step - such as when you take Effect Damage. "Royal Oppression" cannot be used if "Gorz" is Summoned in the Damage Step.

Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~, since that automatically creates a signature for you.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 03:01, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

So, it can't negate Gravekeeper's Spy? Tanhopkins93 (talk • contribs) 09:54, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

If Spy was flipped by battle, no, because Oppression can't be used in the Damage Step.

If Spy was flip summoned, Oppression can be used to negate his effect. Falzar FZ (talk • contribs) 11:43, June 26, 2010 (UTC)