Talk:Divine Dragon

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Deletion[edit]

  • I don't think we should delete this page, i think its about time someone makes this page.--Nexus Shiker(Talk) 16:19, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
  • I don't want to get into a persistent conversation like I did with golden key, but my opinion is this page should be deleted. There a bunch of cards with the same name. there aren't any support or any related effects so I don't think it counts as an archetype.
Do they have support cards? Not Archetype. Are they supporting each other? Not Series. Therefore this article have to go. --FredCat 16:24, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
  • i think this page should stay there are alot of archetypes with no support this all share the same japanese name so it should stay —This unsigned comment was made by Number:100 utopia advanced (talk • contribs) 22:51, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

The Wiki's definition of a Series is "A series is a group of cards that share an appearance in artwork or name, or simply in what their effects allow them to do", meaning that while they need support to be considered a real archetype, they do not need support to be considered a series. Thus I'll vote for it to stay on. Jamesfury (talk • contribs) 22:50, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I agree it fits the wiki's definition of a series. Whoever designed the last three of the cards was/were clearly trying to make them all be recognised as related in some way. They have a few things in common. Just not direct support. That makes them a series as far as I can see. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:17, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, its fine as a series. Not sure where Fred got that they need to support each other. Looks like we're all pretty much in agreement to remove the deletion tag. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 14:35, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well, I heard that other articles had same situation just like this because they don't directly support each other, like Cheese or Falzar once mentioned that. I still don't see they help each other - just help most on (general) Dragon and Water rather than each other. --FredCat 15:48, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but do Cyber Girls suppot each other? no. PrincessPikeruBFF (talk • contribs) 21:25, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

That's different. They all connect with each other. But with these dudes, they all might fit in different decks. (Meklordsa5m (talk • contribs) 18:48, March 9, 2012 (UTC))

Attribute Fields and the Egyptian Gods are the same way. Again, they fit the wiki definition of a series, so we either change the definition, or we keep this on. Simple as that. Jamesfury (talk • contribs) 22:45, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

The former one has all similar effect lore printed; like Ojama Trio all have that. And Egyptian Gods were created because they were part of the Anime show. "Divine Dragon" has nothing to do with Anime, nor similar in the effect lore. I am still standing that this must gone - One of them is NOT exact dragon or supporting other Dragons; it's supporting WATER-Attribute instead. Excelion only aiding himself and nothing more. Apocrlphy is the only one that can help dragon by arrange the Graveyard and Hand at same time (trade one card for other). While Ragnarok is just Normal Monster that is part of the Fusion Monster, but that's all he can playing. Egyptian Gods have more than just their looks and names; they have power that required three Monsters to Tributes, base on field and hand, as well as Life Points, their power changed if they wish to - And they ever dead if they tried to revived from the Graveyard (except for Ra in real effect version instead of illegal). Divine Dragon has absolute nothing than just single effect that barely help Dragon or ever aid WATER (no dragon!). --FredCat 23:02, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
If Attribute Field and Sealing Ceremony can be counted, I say Divine Dragon is legit. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 23:28, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Again, those you mentioned are Lore similar; Divine Dragons have nothing with that. --FredCat 23:29, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
The things I mentioned don't support each other in any way, and can't be all used in the same deck. At least all of the Divine Dragons could potentially fit into 1 dragon deck (a weird one). Archlord, Ogre Grotto, Iron, Freed, King. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 23:41, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Archlord does supporting each other, didn't you see the Fallen Fairy? Ogre Grotto is part of Anime. Iron as well. Freed is just filler article with no good explain or damn story. King is there because of Mon- Oh wait, there's already Monarch article; King is just for Fairy Tale of naked King. Freed and this have to go. --FredCat 23:44, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
So, what do you suggest? Revise the requirements for a "Series"? If we do that, many articles will have to go. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 23:47, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
I already said this before - this article has absolute no support from spell/trap (like E-HERO) or ever supporting each other, so it's just waste of article only because of damn names. All other you mentions seemed fine because they showed some meats, except Freed (only thin bone) article. Egyptian Gods and Ogre Grotto are fine because they came from Anime (Manga); I accept that - but this article, has no feature in the Anime or Manga, added to the delete reason. --FredCat 23:54, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, a series doesn't require support cards like an archetype does. Listing HEROs as an example doesn't really work because HEROs are an archetype while we are discussing a series. I don't see why it matters if it's from the Anime either. Sealing Cermony is not from the anime. Nor does it have support. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 00:00, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the point - HERO are flexible (Stratos, hello?) and can combine very well with various hybrid themes. "Sealing Cermony" = "Attribute Field" due to similar lore (Attribute Field power up certain Attribute and degraded other while Sealing tribute whatever to banish/destroy the cards). This article has nothing like them and just names similar, which is the reason why I am strongly against this idea to stay. --FredCat 00:03, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
I do see your point, but I disagree with your point. I feel the delete tag should be removed. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 00:12, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
I am still against it anyways. If this article survived, then I post that topic's name to my hated list. --FredCat 00:16, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, this should stay. There are four members now, so this page is much more suitable than it was when there were only two members. Both the Japanese and English names indicate a relation of some sort. This certainly fits the definition we've defined for series. So it seems pretty cut-and-dried to me. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:21, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Name does not work - I understand that they have "Divine Dragon", but it's still not supportive or link to each other - only Divine Dragon Apocralyph can help all other, except for Divine Dragon Aquabizarre as he's freaking Sea Serpent-Type. I am still calling this article waste of the time. --FredCat 11:40, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand[edit]

I happened to take a look at this article and Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand's article, and I noticed that both articles make mention of 神竜. Unless I'm mistaken (probably am since I don't anything about the Japanese language), doesn't this mean that Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand is a member of this series since all of the monsters' Japanese names include 神竜?

As shown by the Japanese symbols I have underlined above, wouldn't this mean Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand and Divine Dragon Knight Felgrand are part of this series since their names both include 神竜 and their English names include "Divine Dragon"? I thought it'd be best to clarify before I make an edit on the article to reflect both of them, and add them as being members of the series on their respective articles.--Cyber Dragon (Talk) (Contributions) 15:21, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

That's the criteria for archetypes. "Divine Dragon" is a series; thus, it doesn't strictly follow that criteria.
The series tend to focus on similar aspects of the cards (similar appearance, in this case, while having 神（しん）竜（りゅう） in their name). Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:56, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Aquabizarre removal[edit]

Aquabizzare is a Sea Serpent and is not part of Titanomakhia, why is it considered part of the series? It doesn't appear to link to the other members. --84.203.1.177 (talk) 12:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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