Talk:Elemental Lord

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Spiritual Art o.O?

Have you guys noticed that these "Spirit Gods" Have any similarities with Spiritual Art cards??
EARTH: The fact that Kurogane Special Summons 1 Level 4 or lower EARTH monster from your Graveyard and Grand Soil does the same.
WATER: The fact that Aoi lets you look at discard 1 card from your opponent hand and Moulin Glace lets you discard 2.
The next Set will probably have another Spirit God, depending on the set support. If its effect looks like the effect of a Spiritual Art card. Can we all agreed to put on both pages, in the trivia section, that these effect resembles with each others?--Laggia Will Lag You(Talk) 18:38, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this card's effect was partially guessed either here or on Neo Ark when it was announced there would be another elemental god. Following the pattern the Charmers were in, the next pack is theorized to have FIRE monsters, so I guess the next elemental god will deal burn damage. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:00, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

So it will be like Kurenai, The Spirit Gods, look to be a stronger versions of Spiritual Fire. Grand Soil special summons from eithers graveyards, Moulin Glace discards 2. So i will be amazed if This Fire Spirit God deals double the damage. --Laggia Will Lag You(Talk) 19:06, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

If the next Spirit God follows the pattern, of course it can be added to the Trivia. I just hope that Konami keeps the Spirit (or Spiritual) in the TCG names... But lets not turn this page into a Forum. --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 19:20, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Dark Armed Dragon

I know Dark Armed Dragon doesn't have "Elemental Lord" in it's name but it needs exctly 3 dark monsters. So would it count as an element lord? (Meklordsa5m (talk • contribs) 13:39, July 26, 2012 (UTC))

No. Elemental Lords have "Elemental Lord" in their names and need exactly 5 members of their Attribute in the Graveyard. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 13:42, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

DAD does definitely not belong to the archetype, but could it be at least in the "related cards list"? It shares some similarities with the E-Lords after all - 2800 ATK, the Summon condition, the Nomi status and the fact they are general support to their Attributes. Just some ideas. --Brunjox^{(talk,contrib)} 14:08, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Not considered for deletion ?

Why is this article not being considered for deletion ? Because a series needs a minimum of 3 members to have a page dedicated to it. TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 23:59, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Incase you didn't noticed... Every support set has a Elemental Lord. 6 Attributes = 6 Elemental Lords.--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 00:01, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

There is no evidence so far, that every support set has a Elemental Lord. TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 00:11, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

It is predicted that every set will be like the charmers. Oh and having 1 Elemental Lord after another isn't coincidental, and their effect being upgraded versions of the "Spirit Art" cards which they are more advanced versions of the "Charmers" isn't more coincidental? --Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 00:35, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

No, not really... TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 00:44, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Actually it should be tagged to be deleted. There is a rule of minimum of 3 members. Also NexusShiker, you are predicting. This wikia does not put assumptions that have no official source. Right now, we have no source that there will be more members. ----SharkTenjo 10:03, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should just wait for more information to be released. As it is, there is a small assumption that "Duston" is an Archetype. --SuperSponge!! 10:40, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thats what im saying. We should not jump into conclusions. Duston is infact classified as an archetype since Houseduston's card text mentions "Duston" monsters. ----SharkTenjo 12:19, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

But it only has 1 member, "Houseduston" itself... What i say, is just wait till next week or month. When we have enough scans to prove this deletion wrong.--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 12:23, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Only series have limitation in number of members. Archetypes can have 1 member as long as a card mentions their archetype name like Duston ----SharkTenjo 13:02, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

To expound on that, there is a very specific expression used in Japanese card effects that indicate the effect supports an archetype as opposed to a single card with a specific name, or something else entirely. Therefore, we could theoretically have an article on an archetype with no members, if a support card were released but there were no cards that it could support; this wouldn't mean the article should be deleted, it would just mean members were probably coming soon. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:41, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should wait for the next set. I understand that they don't mention their archetype name but they follow a similar pattern (need 5 of a specific attributed, 2800 ATK 2200 DEF etc) So they follow the same archetype pattern as the charmers and they are classed as an archetype. So we might get some more later on. Kagerō Paladin August 8, 2012

• I agree that this article should be deleted (preserve it on a user page until it becomes relevant so the work doesn't go to waste) because it does not have 3 members, a rule which every other series page on the Wiki has to adhere to. There likely will be more Elemental Lords, but at the moment, it's all prediction and no evidence, and that isn't what we should endorse on this Wikia.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 10:46, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why this particular page became such a hot topic when there are other pages with two members that have been tagged for far longer and are far less likely to ever get new members. When the article is well written and there is such a high likelyhood of imminent revelation of a new member, I would say keep the page. But for all we know, the third member of this series may be among the last cards to be revealed in Cosmo Blazer, so this page would be lacking the needed member for ~3 months. If this page's existence will only spark confusion, and if its deletion will lead the immediate deletion of the other 2-member series pages, then I am in favor of its deletion. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 12:02, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Since this article is speaking about "Series", I am put on the delete - as Goldy once told me in other article: Series required at least 3 monster members or more to be existence. This only have 2 for now: Like with "From the Underground", which had Tour Guide and Tour Bus as member, but it was not enough. --iFredCat 12:20, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should till cosmo blazar is released, if it doesnt contain any members, we should delete this pageQuick Ninja (talk • contribs) 11:57, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Finally, the FIRE version made his appearance - therefore this won't be removing after all. Way to waiting a patience and made Wayne proud! --iFredCat 17:11, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Why add a Speedy Deletion?

Did we talk about to just wait for the Set list? The full list of CBLZ is yet to be fully confirmed. Why was it added a Speedy Deletion instead of waiting? --E.G.G. (My Contributions) 10:13, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Beacause we are basing what is current. And currently no Elemental Lord. Also the admins will not delete it even with speedy deletion unless the discussion is over which is not yet over ----SharkTenjo 10:23, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm personally fine with waiting until we have the full Japanese CBLZ spoiler to see if we get another member or not (and thus whether this page gets deleted), though obviously I can't speak for the other admins, one (or more) of whom may be somewhat more trigger-happy than I. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 11:33, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

The speedy deletion notice is meant to be used on pages that should obviously be deleted. i.e. ones where discussion is not needed. But it does say on the deletion notice that you are free to replace it with {{delete|reason=A series must have at least three members}} i.e. remove the |quick=true part if you disagree that the page is something that should obviously be deleted. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:07, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but notices like those are meant for this page because is very unlike to have more support. Seriously, that series is real dead. While this series it's like almost known for sure to get a member for each "Attribute Support Set". It's what i see in comments. --E.G.G. (My Contributions) 18:06, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

I did mention that you are allowed to downgrade the notice to remove the |quick=true if you disagree with anything being nominated for speedy deletion. FredCat has since done it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Lord's name in different languages?

So now with "Windrose" being released, can "Grandsoil" hold the title of having his name being in English be no longer true? It's because "Windrose" sound more "English" than all other. If in that case, should we add that name to the same line as Grandsoil have been in? --iFredCat 15:13, February 1, 2013 (UTC)