Talk:Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode 065

Season 2 or 3

This is clearly the start of a new season, but is it considered season 2 or 3. i.e. is Dark Signers considered to be a seperate season than Fortune Cup or merely a seperate arc? -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

More accordingly to Janime they post this as the third season, with our Dark Signers arc being the second. Dont know if we should change it like that or keep them as Arcs then. DracoX 19:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Janime is good, but since it's not an official site and we don't know if they got this from an official source or are assuming it, we don't know if they are right or not. We can't really ignore this and not only say which arc is it, since the infoboxes currently require us to use "| season = number".

The episode listing is also getting long and should be split by seasons to stay consistant with previous series. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I would say it's only the second. AFAIK people say Dark Signers is a seperate season from Fortune Cup, because it was a change of arc, the opening and ending music was changed and 4Kids took a break before releasing it. But comparing to other series Freshman Year and Rise of the Sacred Beasts are seperate arcs in Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, but both are considered to be season 1. Seasons 1 and 3 of GX changed their music a portion of the way through. 4Kids also took breaks around halfway through seasons of Yu-Gi-Oh! and Yu-Gi-Oh! GX. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that it would be the second season. With GX, the first two arcs were right after another. Its the samee with 5ds too. If the two arcs were right next 2 each other, i think it would still be the first season. But for two arcs to be 6 months apart, i think it would be considered 2 seperate seasons. Mr.Archfreak —Preceding undated comment added 01:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

no its definitaly a third season, as no Anime season is ever longer than 64 episodes if you were to count it like this: Season 1: 1-64

Arc 1: 1-26

Arc 2: 27-64 —This unsigned comment was made by RexGodwin (talk • contribs) 01:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The only problem with that is that the seasons would be too short. Look at the other seasons:

Original Series: 97 episodes in 2 seasons

Yu-Gi-Oh! GX: 104 episodes in 2 seasons

If the two seperate arcs were 2 seasons, it would look like this:

Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's: 64 episodes in 2 seasons

WTF? Notice a difference? If you consider this and the fact that there wasn't any time difference between them (Dark Signers started right after Fortune Cup), then you can clearly see that this is all one season. Mr.Archfreak —Preceding undated comment added 01:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

well, you never know, most anime seasons go from 13, 26, or 52 episode seasons.--RexGodwin 19:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Having no time between them doesn't mean they can't be seperate seasons. Plenty of shows leave you at a cliffhanger at the end of one season and then continue directly from where they left off next season.

Seasons being around 52 episodes long is so that they contain a year's worth of episodes. I don't know of any anime with 26 episode long seasons off the top of my head, but could they just be ones that are on fortnightly or take half year long breaks before releasing more episodes? Unfortunatly whatever way we look at 5D's we're not going to get a year long season(s). -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I consider episode 65 to be the first episode of season 2. My reasoning for this is simple - so many changes have been made to the format as a whole in an effort of renewal for a new season. A new opening, a new ending, new break cuts, a new plot (the Duel of Fortune Cup plot was the first half of the overall Dark Signer plot), a new Speed World, it's set months after season 1... there are just so many changes. If anything, season 1 of 5D's played out in exactly the same way as season 1 of GX - the first half introduced us to the characters and then the second half gave us the plot en masse - and yet people consider episodes 1 to 52 of GX to be season 1 and not two seasons, and the first half of season 1 of 5D's actually related to the plot (the first half of season 1 of GX was purely introducing characters, the overall insanity that is Duel Academia, and random filler Duels - only the abandoned dorm stood as a vague link to the plot what with Fubuki being missing and all). As far as I'm concerned, episodes 1 to 64 of 5D's = season 1, albeit divided into two story arcs - the Duel of Fortune Cup and the Dark Signers. So it's essentially like this -

Episodes 1 to 26 - Season 1, story arc 1

Episodes 27 to 64 - Season 1, story arc 2

Episodes 65 onwards - Season 2

If you disagree, go ahead. Not arsed. 'tis just how I see things. 92.11.136.56 02:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Of course this is SEASON 2!, there have benn only one season before, the dark signers one, the first 26 episodes were about to getting all signers together to fight against the Dark Signers, so this is a new plot, and it's SEASON 2!porygon2z 03:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

3 Openings means 3 seasons in most cases. Either that or a dividing point in a series. Anime series go in counts of 13 in most cases, with maybe one or two episodes lacking from multiples of 13 if a series doesn't do well and needs to be rush cancelled, or if something like the occasional break due to sports events ends up killing a week. First arc was 26 eps long. Second was just a bit short of 39. It's not an even split, so by the looks of it, they seem to have altered their original plan mid-way and extended the plot somewhat. One intro arc/season, one Dark Signer arc/season that lasts a bit short of 39 eps, and now the latest arc/season. Thus ending up in a 64 ep cut with two arcs each serving as a seperate season, and 65 and onwards being the third arc so far. I expect a full blown year-long arc this time. Of course, if they go back to the first DM's way of dividing arcs, it could be much shorter. But it would be a surprising move, as they aren't limited by the manga content being required, or filler arcs being necessary to slow their progress or such(Though, the Doma Arc was awesome as hell). I bet my money on third season.--218.54.107.246 13:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Nearly all Anime have ONE opening per SERIES and Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's is no different. Series 1: Ep 001 - 026 Series 2: Ep 027 - 064 Series 3: Ep 065 - —This unsigned comment was made by 14:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC) (talk • contribs)

See above Yu-Gi-Oh! GX had 2 different openings for the first season. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This might not be that reliable, but when I watched 5ds on 4kids website, it put all the Dark Signer episodes under the season 1 episodes. Since 4Kids is the one who manufactures the episodes, i guess they consider the two arcs 1 season. Mr.Archfreak 17:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I'd noticed they'd still included 1 in the production number at the start of Dark Signers episodes, but now they've actually labelled the episodes as season 1 and included them in a collapsible reading "season 1". This looks like enough to support calling Dark Signers part of season 1, even if 4Kids haters are going to scream at us for believing them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

yliaster arc = season 2 —This unsigned comment was made by 75.22.31.141 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Side/Wise/Wisel

What are Ghost's new cards called since Core is known as Side Core, Wise Core and Wisel Core all in the same Duel summary so until the episode gets subbed can we decide on what his new cards are called? --Trivi-AM 20:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Changed them all to "Wisel" for now, considering we've used that term in the names of all his other monsters. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The names of his monsters are Wise Core, Kikoutei Wisel ∞ (Machine Emperor Wisel Infinity), Wisel A (Attack), Wisel G (Guard), Wisel T (Top), and Wisel C (Carrier). They don't combine into one monster. 92.11.136.56 02:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

English Airdate

Are you people sure this episode and 66 actually aired on March? O_O 24.185.50.119 22:53, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

No. Thanks for the notification. Removed the unsourced English names and dates from both pages. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:01, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Is August 14th confirmed as the english airdate?

its been confirmed it will air in english on september 18 2010 on toonzei