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ATEMVEGETA

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful request for adminship. Please do not modify it.
Nomination

ATEMVEGETA's been on this site for over three years now and has helped out a lot particularly in anything rulings related. A lot of users seem to trust him and I don't recall there ever being trouble surrounding him. I'd like to see how he'd reply to some questions before fully deciding if I'm in favour, but he seems like a good candidate. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:35, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I accept the nomination! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 16:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Result - successful 
Adminship granted. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:57, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve as an administrator. Please answer the following four questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
A: Well, my work here in Wikia is whatever involes the Rulings, and helping people with Ruling questions in the Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries (not that much active in the forum lately though!). If I ever needed something that wanted adminship was either to unlock a Ruling Page that prevented me from editing, deleting Ruling Pages with unofficial Rulings and sometimes to delete some of my user sub-pages. The need of renaming more that 2 pages per time was also a problem I faced!
Becides the Ruling Pages, I rarely make edits to other pages. Only sometimes if I see something wrong on a page I correct it, or post additional stuff if needed to a page, but I don't think I ever needed adminship for those. Only the renaming limit problem was nessasary sometimes.
2. What do you consider to be your best contributions, and why?
A: The most of my contributions are posts in the Forums by answering Ruling questions & edits of the Ruling Pages. I consider all those as my best contributions, mostly Ruling Pages' edits!
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: Yes! Vandalisms the most, and then the people that post unofficial/wrong Rulings in the Ruling Pages. I dealt with them simply by reverting their edits! In the future, as admin(?), I'll do more-or-less the same! Maybe then I can stop the continuously vandalism to a Ruling Page by blocking the page, warning the users to not vandalise coz they may get banned, ect.
4. Do you regularly contribute to any other wikis? Are you an administrator or bureaucrat on any of them, or do you have accounts with similar roles on forums, blogs, etc.? Could you provide links, if so?
A: No, I don't contribute to any other wikis, nor I'm admin on any of them. I'm only a visitor in them. If I made some edits are just some corrections, are they're very few. I can't be considered as contributor of other wikis beceides this on.

Other editors may post optional questions for the candidate here.

Questions from Deltaneos

-- Deltaneos (talk) 18:07, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

5: Aside from rulings not form official sources (i.e. rulings users write themselves), are there any other kind of rulings pages that you would delete?
A: Last year I did a complete clean up to all the Ruling Pages (removed the unofficial Rulings / marked the UDE's Rulings with the Previously Official Rulings template / made the Rulings same worded as in their original source (including their typos, ect) / removed the unsourced Rulings or added to them an official source (mostly those were OCG Rulings)). At that time I found some Ruling Pages that had only unsourced/unofficial Rulings, so they needed deletion. If I remember correctly Familiar-Possessed - Hiita's Ruling Page was an example. Right now I dare to say that there aren't any Ruling Pages that need deletion.
6: What types of things can users do to rulings pages that you think would warrant a block and what could they do that would warrant a page protection?
A: I would say:
block - continuously vandalism of a page from the same user and when he ignores all the warnings/notes.
page lock - to a Ruling Page that a lot of users keep editing it with unofficial stuff.
7: If a user asks you to block another user for vandalism, what would you do?
A: Check out the vandalism first and revert it if so. Then give a warning to that user. If he still continues to vandalizing then block for a short time.
8: If a user asks you to block another user for harassment, what would you do?
A: Errr, the same as the the above I guess!
9: When it comes to blocking IPs, are any things you should consider that you don't consider when blocking accounts?
A: If I understood corectly then with only an account blocking you prevent the user to edit again with the same account but he has still the option of making a new account an edit again. Unlike with the IP blocking where you prevent the user from editing regardless if he creates another account or not.
10: Have you seen many edit wars in the past? If similar ones happen again and you have adminship, would you intervene and how would you handle them?
A: Edit wars in the Ruling Pages? I don't think they exist there! A Ruling Pages must have only specific things, and they have some standar rules that must be followed (ex. the Rulings must be written there exactly as they are worded in their official source, including typos, ect). Btw, if we say for example that an edit war has been started for like if a typo must stay or be corrected, then the correct answer is that it must stay. Then I'll try to explain to the user why the typo must stay. If he don't accept it and still tries to correct the typo, then warning. .... Then block! I haven't seen any edit wars in the Ruling Pages yet though!
11: You mentioned having problems with the page move limit. When has this gotten in the way before?
A: When I must rename a Ruling Page of a card that has its name changed (like when an OCG card is released in the TCG and has a name slitely different that the translation it had before), since all the other pages of that card (Main Page - Gallery - Errata - Tips - Appearances - Trivia - Lores - Artworks - Names) must be renamed as well, and if they are more than 2 I must wait for a while to rename another 2... and so on.
Also, sometimes when I wanted to rename more than 2 of my User sub-pages as well.

Support

  • I give my all support to this user, as because he maybe gain access to all rulings and be able to edit them with little to no effort. However, with Shard's comment, I would suggest him to send some note to that user who worked their hardest to put in unofficial rulings (may be correct or not, depend on their result) to let them know that they can't do it again and may send their details to my articles, as I am only unofficial (current) Judge that accept any kind of semi-official rulings that ATEM can approved. --FredCat 02:05, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
  • Well this is a no-brainer Support from me. I've seen Admins refer users to ATEM in the past when it comes to rulings issues, so he's obviously earned a reputation as a person who knows what he's doing. His edits are numerous and of good quality, and he all-around seems like a pleasant guy. I've had very few direct interactions with him, but from what I've observed, he can definitely be trusted with the Admin tools. However, Shardsilver and Deltaneos do make a good point about the importance of telling users why you're reverting their edits, either in the Edit Summary or on their Talk Pages. But now that that has been brought to his attention, I trust he'll do so in the future. All-in-all I think he'd get use out of the Admin tools without abusing his "power", and make a great addition to the Admin staff. So why the hell not? :D Golden Key (talk • contribs) 02:17, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'm going to support for mainly the reasons I've given at the start of the nomination. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:47, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm going to support as well (I'll admit, I was just a little unsure at first, but looking at his response and edits, and how he interacts with users, I think he would make a great admin). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 22:35, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

  • "ATEMVEGETA" seems like a good user, and is really great at Rulings, but he/she's response to the third question kind of puts me on neutral (but not too much). You said that you have dealt with users by simply reverting their edits when it came to them messing up Rulings (or inserting unofficial ones). That's good and all, but you should point it out to them in your summary's, that unofficial Rulings are not allowed, or tell them to put a source or reference (otherwise they don't know what they're doing wrong, and may just get angry that what they put was seemingly deleted for no reason. Of course at the same time, some deliberately put in unofficial Rulings when they know it is not allowed). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 23:59, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • You may have a right there! Sometimes a note in the summary is nessasary in order to point out the revert's reasoning. There is though an attention board that appears to the editor when he attempts to edit a Ruling Page with all the rules that apply for the Ruling Pages, which the editors are supposed to read before posting. By the way, I agree that a summary note is also important since you can say there where exactly and why the edit was illegal! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 22:53, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, Shardsilver has a good point. I can see a few undos here without a reason mentioned. It can be discouraging for new users who are trying help to have their work undone without explanation (or with an impolite explanation). If you find it time consuming to type out the reason or link to the policy page, there are some ways of making commonly needed edit summaries automatically available. If you are interested in setting any of these up let me know on my talk page if you need help. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

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