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==TCG Rulings==
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* You can [[Normal Summon]] this monster.<ref name="Konami-SDMM">[http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/rulings/10406SDMachinaMayhem_Rules.pdf Konami Gameplay FAQ]: Machina Mayhem Structure Deck – Card Rulings (Version 1.0)</ref>
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* [[Special Summon]]ing this monster with its effect does not start a [[Chain]], similar to Special Summoning [[Cyber Dragon]].<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* You can negate this Summon with “[[Thunder King Rai-Oh]]” or “[[Solemn Judgment]].”<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* The effect that destroys 1 of your opponent’s cards targets that card.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* You can discard “[[Machina Fortress]]” itself as part of the [[cost]] to Special Summon it.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* [[Discard]]ing Machine-Type monsters is a cost to Special Summon this card.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* Your opponent will miss the timing to activate the effect of “[[Archfiend of Gilfer]]” if it is discarded by the effect of “[[Machina Fortress]].”<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* If your opponent targets “[[Machina Fortress]]” with an Effect Monster’s effect, then Chains with “[[Enemy Controller]]” to take control of “[[Machina Fortress]],” you will not discard a card from your opponent’s hand because it is no longer being targeted by an opponent’s effect.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* If you have more than 1 “[[Machina Fortress]]” on the field and your opponent targets them all, you will discard 1 card from your opponent’s hand for each “[[Machina Fortress]]” targeted.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* When this card is targeted by an opponent’s Effect Monster’s effect, you look at the opponent’s hand and discard 1 card from it immediately before resolving the effect of the Effect Monster. For example, if “[[Machina Fortress]]” is targeted by your opponent’s “[[Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier]]” you first decide whether or not you want to Chain any effects. Then, when you go to resolve the effect of [[Brionac]], first look at your opponent’s hand and discard 1 card from it. Finally, resolve [[Brionac]]’s effect and return “[[Machina Fortress]]” to your hand.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
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* If “[[Macro Cosmos]]” is active you won’t be able to discard “[[Machina Fortress]]” as part of the cost to Special Summon the same “[[Machina Fortress]]” because it will be removed from play.<ref name="Konami-SDMM"/>
  
 
==OCG Rulings==
 
==OCG Rulings==
*"[[Machina Fortress]]" is a [[Normal Summon monster]].<ref name="MachFort">[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53410&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Effect Monster > Machina Fortress</ref>
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*"[[Machina Fortress]]" is a [[Normal Summon monster]].<ref name="MachFort">[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53410&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Effect Monster > Machina Fortress</ref>
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*When "[[Machina Fortress]]" is destroyed by battle, its effect [[activate]]s and [[target]]s one card on your opponent's side of the field.<ref name="MachFort"/>
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===On Discarding from your Opponent's Hand===
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*When "[[Machina Fortress]]" is [[target]]ed by an opponent's monster's effect, its effect which discards a card from your opponent's hand does not start a [[Chain Link]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
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*If "[[Machina Fortress]]" is [[target]]ed by an opponent's Effect Monster's effect, then you check your opponent's hand and discard one card when the opponent's Effect Monster's effect resolves, before doing anything else.<ref name="MachFort-Timing">[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53822&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Your opponent discards from his hand by the effect of "Machina Fortress" at what time?</ref>
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**Example: Your "[[Machina Fortress]]" is [[target]]ed by the effect of your opponent's "[[Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier]]".  When resolving the effect of "[[Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier]]", first, apply the effect of "[[Machina Fortress]]" and discard one card from your opponent's hand.  After that, "[[Machina Fortress]]" is returned to your hand by the effect of "[[Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier]]".<ref name="MachFort-Timing"/>
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*Suppose "[[Machina Fortress]]" is [[target]]ed by an opponent's Effect Monster's effect and then "[[Enemy Controller]]" is Chained.  After resolving the effect of "[[Enemy Controller]]", "[[Machina Fortress]]" is under your opponent's control, so when resolving the opponent's Effect Monster's effect "[[Machina Fortress]]" is no longer treated as "''being targeted by an opponent's Effect Monster's effect''".  Thus, you do not apply the effect of "[[Machina Fortress]]" which discards one card from the opponent's hand.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53813&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: If "Machina Fortress" is not on the field at resolution, then do you apply the effect which discards from the opponent's hand?</ref>
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*If multiple copies of "[[Machina Fortress]]" which are [[face-up]] on your field are [[target]]ed by a single effect, then you apply each copy's effect which discards one card from your opponent's hand.  Thus, if you control multiple copies of "[[Machina Fortress]]" and they are all [[target]]ed by the effect of "[[Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier]]", then when the effect resolves your opponent discards one card for each "[[Machina Fortress]]" which was [[target]]ed.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53800&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: If multiple copies of "Machina Fortress" are targeted, then how many cards are discarded from your opponent's hand?</ref>
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===On Special Summoning===
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*The effect which Special Summons "[[Machina Fortress]]" by discarding monster(s) from the hand does not start a [[Chain Link]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
  
 
*When [[Special Summon]]ing "[[Machina Fortress]]", [[discard]]ing from your [[hand]] is a [[cost]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
 
*When [[Special Summon]]ing "[[Machina Fortress]]", [[discard]]ing from your [[hand]] is a [[cost]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
  
*The effect which Special Summons "[[Machina Fortress]]" by discarding monster(s) from the hand does not start a [[Chain Link]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
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*You can [[discard]] from your hand "[[Machina Fortress]]" and other [[Machine]]-[[Type]] monsters to Special Summon that "[[Machina Fortress]]" from your Graveyard.  You can do this even if there is no other "[[Machina Fortress]]" in your Graveyard.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53825&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Can you discard "Machina Fortress" from your hand to Special Summon that same "Machina Fortress"?</ref>
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*Effects like "[[Solemn Judgment]]" and the effect of "[[Thunder King Rai-Oh]]" may be [[activate]]d if "[[Machina Fortress]]" is Special Summoning itself by its effect, to negate the Special Summon of "[[Machina Fortress]]".<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53819&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Can effects like "Solemn Judgment" and "Thunder King Rai-Oh" negate the Special Summon of "Machina Fortress"?</ref>
  
*When "[[Machina Fortress]]" is destroyed by battle, its effect [[activate]]s and [[target]]s one card on your opponent's side of the field.<ref name="MachFort"/>
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*If "[[Macro Cosmos]]" is active, then you cannot [[discard]] "[[Machina Fortress]]" and other [[Machine]]-[[Type]] monsters to Special Summon that "[[Machina Fortress]]", since after being discarded "[[Machina Fortress]]" will be removed from play.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=53816&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: Can you Special Summon "Machina Fortress" by discarding it from the hand while "Macro Cosmos" is active?</ref>
  
*When "[[Machina Fortress]]" is [[target]]ed by an opponent's monster's effect, its effect which discards a card from your opponent's hand does not start a [[Chain Link]].<ref name="MachFort"/>
 
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Latest revision as of 20:10, 29 October 2014

TCG Rulings

  • The effect that destroys 1 of your opponent’s cards targets that card.[1]
  • Discarding Machine-Type monsters is a cost to Special Summon this card.[1]
  • If your opponent targets “Machina Fortress” with an Effect Monster’s effect, then Chains with “Enemy Controller” to take control of “Machina Fortress,” you will not discard a card from your opponent’s hand because it is no longer being targeted by an opponent’s effect.[1]
  • If you have more than 1 “Machina Fortress” on the field and your opponent targets them all, you will discard 1 card from your opponent’s hand for each “Machina Fortress” targeted.[1]
  • When this card is targeted by an opponent’s Effect Monster’s effect, you look at the opponent’s hand and discard 1 card from it immediately before resolving the effect of the Effect Monster. For example, if “Machina Fortress” is targeted by your opponent’s “Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier” you first decide whether or not you want to Chain any effects. Then, when you go to resolve the effect of Brionac, first look at your opponent’s hand and discard 1 card from it. Finally, resolve Brionac’s effect and return “Machina Fortress” to your hand.[1]

OCG Rulings

On Discarding from your Opponent's Hand

On Special Summoning

References

  1. a b c d e f g h i j k Konami Gameplay FAQ: Machina Mayhem Structure Deck – Card Rulings (Version 1.0)
  2. a b c d e Konami FAQ: Effect Monster > Machina Fortress
  3. a b Konami FAQ: Your opponent discards from his hand by the effect of "Machina Fortress" at what time?
  4. Konami FAQ: If "Machina Fortress" is not on the field at resolution, then do you apply the effect which discards from the opponent's hand?
  5. Konami FAQ: If multiple copies of "Machina Fortress" are targeted, then how many cards are discarded from your opponent's hand?
  6. Konami FAQ: Can you discard "Machina Fortress" from your hand to Special Summon that same "Machina Fortress"?
  7. Konami FAQ: Can effects like "Solemn Judgment" and "Thunder King Rai-Oh" negate the Special Summon of "Machina Fortress"?
  8. Konami FAQ: Can you Special Summon "Machina Fortress" by discarding it from the hand while "Macro Cosmos" is active?