Forum:Greed Burn Deck Help

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It's a decent deck during my DS time, but playing with COMs (they are actually pretty predictable) is probably very different to real people.
A Cat of Ill Omen is used to search out Greed, while 'Marshmallon', 'Spirit Reaper', etc. are used to hold off enemy attacks. I could possibly run another Kuraz, but am unsure on which Monster to get rid of. 'Benevolence' might be changed for something more offensive, like another 'Smashing Ground' since playing this kind of deck really limits my hand since drawing cards is not an option (and increases my enemies'. Novice's viewpoint). That is the reason I'm using 'Duality', but is there a better option (apart from Gold Sarcophagus)? 'Des Koala' and 'Secret Barrel' are used as backup, just in case 'Greed' does not appear in my first few turns.
Also, could a kind soul please teach me how to reply to comments (as in speech with an indent)? Thanks! Chromace (talk • contribs) 09:50, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

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I'm thinking Miracle Locus makes a good Greed combo with Chainsaw Insect. Not only do you force a draw on your opponent by activating it, Chainsaw gets 2 attacks, which means you get a total of 3 draws on the opponent when the entire combo goes off flawlessly. Not to mention Chainsaw gets an additional 1000 ATK to kill whatever's otherwise too big for you. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 14:56, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
I see, helpful (the advice & indents). I'd then get rid of Blast Sphere and Smashing Ground in favor of two Miracle Locus. However, searching for Chainsaw Insect is going to be a bit of a problem, even with my three 'Dualities' (and Gold Sarcophagus is too slow). Is there another possible search card? Chromace (talk • contribs) 08:15, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps switch Disturbance Strategy with Appropriate? It will function as draw power for your overall strategy. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 16:44, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
If I can find a way to shut down Appropriate when Greed is on the field) or use Des Wombat (as Missign0 suggested) I'd add it to my deck. Alternatively, if I will usually have a lower hand advantage than my opponent, would it be feasible to incorporate Infernities into my deck? Or would it become too unfocused? Chromace (talk • contribs) 09:49, May 11, 2013 (UTC)
"Pot of Duality" is Semi-Limited, trade one for an "Allure of Darkness". You can search "Chainsaw" (or other Level 4 monster) with "Summoner Monk". You could use "Des Wombat", since the "Greed" also damages you. Also, why you're not using the card that fits the name and strategy of the Deck: "The Gift of Greed"? --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 02:24, May 11, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it would, however, I'd rather not just give hand advantage to my opponent just for 1000 LP damage. That could be easily done with something like Disturbance Strategy and with my overall draw effects would usually do more than 1000 LP. Is there a possible method to protect Des Wombat? If so, then I would definitely use some Draw effects (more than just one card. I can cope with 1000 LP damage). However, right now, I'm currently avoiding all potential damage Greed could inflict to me (thank goodness for 'Add to Hands'). Summoner Monk does sound like a good idea to counteract my low hand if I do decide not to use Draw effects (and my spells could be recovered with 'Benevolence'). I'd replace 'The Fool' with that. Thanks! Chromace (talk • contribs) 09:49, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Okay...here's the current copy of my deck.

Looking at the deck, it should be simple enough to search for Des Wombat with the effect of 'Summoner Monk' and from there, set up Appropriate for draw power. I have also included Safe Zone to protect 'Des Wombat'. Chromace (talk • contribs) 09:37, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

So close. Wombat's LV3, and Summoner Monk only takes LV4s. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 09:51, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
Okay...so could Deep Diver work instead? It's less effective than Summoner Monk but it has a larger search range. With Appropriate on the field, I (hopefully) won't have to worry about it slowing my deck down. Unless there's a better alternative...? Chromace (talk • contribs) 07:38, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

You can use "Imperial Custom" to protect "Greed", "Appropriate" and "Safe Zone". --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 02:47, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

You can search for Des Wombat with...
---Kungfu-mama (Talk) 14:15, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, to make playing this type of deck worthwhile, you need to maximize its key cards: Card Destruction and Disturbance Strategy, dealing 2500-4000 per card, as well as Cup of Ace and even One Day of Peace (as weird as it seems) to enhance those plays. Also, don't forget Magic Cylinder and its awesomeness as one of the best burn cards to date. I'd add in some Magic Planters for draw power and consistency, and focus heavily on Continuous Traps, probably Greed, Appropriate, Imperial Custom (the backbone and crux of the Continuous Trap suite), Macro Cosmos to screw stuff up, Solemn Wishes so that you can draw without killing yourself, and maybe some Fiendish Chains. As for other things, you'd have to cut the monster count down drastically, leaving only essential things like A Cat of Ill Omen, Cardcar D, Cyber Valley, Battle Fader, Swift Scarecrow, etc., for searching, drawing, and stalling. I can probably provide a sample list if you want me to, if you need help or wanna look into it. But ultimately, the decision is up to you, of course. Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 00:28, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

A more stall orientated Greed Burn Deck? I'll try it out and see how it goes. Chromace (talk • contribs) 11:15, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Okay...here is the stall/burn deck. I'm finding it a little difficult balancing the amount of draw cards with stall ones though...

The thing is, is that it does work, but any opponent I can defeat with this deck I can defeat with 'Offensive' - and much quicker! I used Necrovalley to help with my trap searching and substitute as a 'Macro Cosmos'. Unfortunately, 'Card Destruction' is limited, or I would have run three copies. Anyhow, feedback and suggestions are happily welcomed!

Also, here's my updated (slightly) version of 'Offensive Gift'.

Chromace (talk • contribs) 06:47, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Considered Morphing Jar? It'll inflict 2500 damage to the opponent via Greed. Trouble is... you'll take that same damage too. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 07:31, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

It would even out hand advantage, so playing it in 'Avoided', would be a definite plus (not only that, I'd take only 2000 damage with 'Solemn Wishes' in play). A copy of 'Hiro' could be taken away for it. Of course, this card would work much better with Magical Thorn in play...but that's for a different kind of deck isn't it? Chromace (talk • contribs) 07:50, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

The stalling version needs a lot more Cardcar; he should be your key monster. The need for speed is important here, haha. All you have to do is get set up as quickly as possible and kill your opponent before they kill you, so triple Scarecrow and Fader should stall enough to get the job done. Also, right now especially, Macro > Necrofalley, no contest. Macro cripples Mermails and Fire Fist, while Necrovalley does practically nothing against those 2 match-ups. However, you can't use the crucial Magic Planter with Cosmos on the field, so you won't always want to see it, making it more of a Side Deck card here. I see where you were going with the combo with Cat, but you make up for its slight slowness by getting exactly what you want, supplemented by great draw power. Here's what I would do editing the stall list:

Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 13:40, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Okay...if that's the case, is there a more suitable card for my drawing needs? As stated before in my Batteryman deck help, I use WC 2011, and Cardcar did not exist then... Chromace (talk • contribs) 09:33, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Rephrasing this, is there another card I can freely use to draw cards? Chromace (talk • contribs) 02:21, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

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