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Can Rai-Oh negate the tag-out of a Gladiator beast? I don't think he can, because he only negates special summons, not effects that special summon. 99.178.113.240 (talk) 17:12, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yep, you got it right on the dot.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 17:27, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Same reason why you cannot stop Tragoedia with Royal Oppression on the field, this approve for Gorz the Emissary of Darkness. --FredCat T.P. • F.R. • J.R. 17:39, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
Err...The effect of Gladiator Beasts to "tag out" happen at the end of the Battle Phase. Royal Oppression can actually negate effects that special summon. The only reason you can't negate the effects of Tragoedia and Gorz during the Damage Step is because you can't activate it during the Damage Step. It's totally different than the "Thunder King Rai-Oh vs G.B." scenario.-- HHTurtle Talk 18:13, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
So Royal Oppression would destroy the monster that returned to the deck too?---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 19:56, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, from what I know, RO can murder the one that arrive the field, not leaving one.
- Ah, Just remember that now, return to deck is cost, not effect. --FredCat T.P. • F.R. • J.R. 19:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
Thunder King Rai-Oh can only negate inherent special summons. It can't negate effects that special summon, e.g. G.B. monsters.-- HHTurtle Talk 07:12, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Um, why are we talking about "Royal Oppression"? The OP doesn't mention it at all, and Yugioh DED answered his question completely.
- "Royal Oppression" can't "murder" either "Gladiator Beast". If you negate the "tag-in/tag-out" effect, then the one that returned to the Deck is not destroyed (since "Royal Oppression" can't destroy cards in the Deck), and the one that is going to be Special Summoned isn't destroyed (since there's no reason why it would be destroyed).
- If you successfully "tag-in" "Gladiator Beast Darius", then you can use "Royal Oppression" to negate its effect and destroy it, but that's a different issue. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 13:52, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
