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this thing=Yusei's D-Wheel?

hey guys look this is interesting: http://pic.newwise.com/bbs_fj/day_100120/1001202343d5c4486a6c821482.jpg

The tip of Yusei's D-Wheel matches correctly with the bottom of that cocoon.

I don't think it's only his D-Wheel - It could be actually him (or his incarnation of some kind). They have the same eye color and shape. Anyway it could turn out it's Dr.Fudo ?! Just speculations at this point, but have to be noticed anyway... Fuel Synchron 10:14, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think there is NO chance that Z-One is Dr. Fudo. At the middle of the season when Yusei saw Dr.Fudo, he told him that the Arc Cradle will lead the world to an end (or something like that). Also Z-One said he provoked the Zero Reverse. That's a little tough for Dr. Fudo to do, cause he is kinda presumed dead in the same incident. Anyway, that's just my theory...
Fluf (talk • contribs) 21:50, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Made an image displaying the comparisons noted in the article, for the curious - here. DoreikuKuroofangu 01:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

His machine thing looks almost exactly like the "Yusei Go".

Indeed, very similar. We seen that repeat. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 11:34, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

What Links here?

What's the point in having this page if no other page links to this page? BuzzSawBill 01:56, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Magatama God - Zone and other info

According to the credits of 107, it's referred to as "Zone" (so the Z-ONE makes sense), voiced by Hideo Ishikawa.--90.200.52.3 20:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that as well, and it's been confirmed on Janime by process of elimination of the voice cast credits. BuzzSawBill 01:48, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I will just quote from LeArk's post on DMC as it will also add in some additional information:

The Shrimp God, from end of Episode Voice Actor credits, is named "Zone", by the way.
From dialogue of the episode:
Bruno as Dark Glass (with the Fudo / Rudger flashbacks), explains Momentum isn't just a new form of particle energy, but it is energy born from the power of the Human {Heart/Mind/Soul} (I hate the word Kokoro). As a result it has existed since ancient times. Those who wielded it with a good heart apparently resulted in the creation of the Crimson Dragon. Those who wielded it with an evil heart heart result in the creation of Evil Gods (Bruno's probably referring to the Earthbound Immortals with this). When building the Momentum reactor, Dr. Fudo and Rudger realized this fact, ultimately. Bruno explains one can directly control Momentum itself (which leads to the ability to Accel Synchro) by having a Clear Mind, which requires you to throw away all other fears and distractions. Zone, the Magatama god, explains Yusei has earned the right to Accel Synchro, and he's giving Yusei Shooting Star Dragon as a way to "equalize the possibilities". Also, Luciano and Jose basically are noting that fact when Luciano freaks out, and Luciano can't believe Zone, who they apparently consider to be "God", would be a patron to Yusei as well as them. Placido refers to his D-Wheel Gattai as the ultimate evolution of the D-Wheel. He then goes into a Knight Templar rant at Yusei that fulfilling Illiaster's purpose, he'll kill Yusei for going against the will of God.

I did ask if it was "Zone" or "Z-one" like the card that was used to reach him, but while I wait for that answer (it's 10:35AM my time anyway) we at least know this much. Jose seems genuinely shocked that the God that was helping them is ALSO helping Yusei and the Signers. Dare I said even felt betrayed and confused. Doesn't mean they will stop going forward. Anyway yes, when one has speaking lines, one should expect they will be listed in the voice actor credits. Also, this page shouldn't "Yllaster machine" anyway, it has nothing directly to do with them. It would be like referring to Crimson Dragon as a Signer Dragon. ShinobiPhoenix 09:50, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rename "ZONE" and ep 117 appearance?

At the end of episode 117, ""The Distorted Past"", I saw "ZONE" written in English and capitalised that way in the credits. Does anyone know if it was referring to the character? If so, I think we should rename this page to ZONE. Also is the name appearing in the credits (and possibly the same voice actor being used) why people are saying that that was ZONE who took the form of Mizoguchi Dr. Leblanc near the end of the episode? -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:00, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

It was not Mizoguchi, but Sherry's father rather (just like in the "Contact" movie starring Jodie Foster). — This unsigned comment was made by Fuel Synchron (talk • contribs) 10:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry my mistake. I was thinking of Sherry's father, but mistyped. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:35, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
Anyway the cast can be seen here and that pretty much confirms the capitalisation and that ZONE appears in the episode. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:37, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, but i am thinking about the revealed spell card Z ONE. It hasnt appered in the OCG and, like the Seal of Orivhalcos, it will be the first illegial card in so many years.--XM345 (talk • contribs) 16:33, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


Picture

When i saw the new opening song i noticed that when he was in it he was upside-down when we first saw him as apposed to the song, so i flipped his picture and now he is right side up. --Light sage96 (talk • contribs) 00:12, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

  • Even though, before that we've seen him the other way. Plus, how do you know that you didn't turn him/it upside down and not right side up?Altyrell (talk • contribs) 01:04, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

His hands in the new opening show that he is right side up and when we first saw his eye it definetly looked upside down. --Light sage96 (talk • contribs) 02:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Arc Cradle is also upside-down. Since ZONE is in Arc Cradle and the others not, when they look at each other they appear upside down to each other. --SG-27 (talk • contribs) 00:16, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's such to be chaos. Like in Episode 139, the field had been change and Sherry is random all over the place. If Sherry can do that, then Zone can do same. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 00:28, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Episode 135

During this few weeks on Janime forum this have been posting blog information form the series staff. http://www.janime.eu/threads/40537-Official-5D-s-Preview-Thread/page72. One regarding Zone's true identity in regard that he shares same eye color with Yusei, and this leaving to speculate that this means that Zone is Yusei. In regards to this, today's episode that shows a close up view from him, the upper right part of Zone's mask has a carving what looks likes Yusei's criminal mark. DracoX (talk • contribs) 16:48, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Looks very plausible. This may be like the Dark Glass mystery, where many people correctly guessed he was Bruno before it was confirmed. But I'd say we should wait until it's officially announced before changing and maybe even merging the articles. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:35 November 17, 2010 (UTC)
Sound very consider, Draco X, also Bruno was feeling down in Episode 134. So that would be good theory addition to my Evil Yusei page. But indeed, like Delta said, we should wait till the story unleashed his true identify. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 17:39, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i know its going that way as Bruno, and that only time will tell. Forgot to mention or to bring up what many people noticed and posted in here about the machine where Zone resides. That some parts of it looks like Yusei Go, like the back side as mentioned but also the front. Lastly pointing out the 2 red markings on the front are on the Runner as well. But there opposite as Yusei Go has them white. DracoX (talk • contribs) 02:55, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Or it could be...

Since Zone is living in the distance future, it could be possible that Zone is actually the future Yusei. Both of them have same eye colour and similar D-wheel. Therefore, the very reason that Zone is helping Yusei is that Zone is actually helping his past self. Also, it can't be Dr Fudo as he died during the Zero reverse a long time ago.Canonink (talk • contribs)

Indeed, there are many evidence that made ZONE/Yliaster being Yusei. But please, don't post new topic below the top one, just at bottom of this page instead. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 14:50, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

ZONE Way Appointed Like yusei...Is ZONE Future yusei ?

It depend on what we have for an evidence. But now, we do know that he would possible to be Yusei from the future, but have no proof since he is complete masked and covered his identity. All we have to do is to waiting till story unleashed the next step of mysterious. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 20:55, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Seems plausible to me. I mean really; just like FredCat100 here said; there are a few facts. To me though that makes me really wonder what ZONE's intentions really are if we were to just assume he were Yusei in the future. Is his intention really to try and destroy New Domino or is it actually to sacrifice his past self out of guilt for surviving when all of his other friends had been killed in whatever incident that was. (Hey this is YUSEI we're talking about; the guy who went pretty semi-emo when Kalin was evil for a while; it's pretty possible) It could be that ZONE merely thinks of it like this:

"Had I a chance to do this all over again; I would have died so that everyone else could live. Had I somehow been able to give myself the power to change this past and to stop this tragedy; I would have given anything even if I had to give everything else up." In that sense, when he did somehow find out he can change the past, he could have just been doing all of this to get his past self ready for that final fight where it all ends. In that case Yusei'd probably succeed but he'd be killed in the process. Or perhaps the loneliness drove him insane who knows?

What I'd question from there though is, what the heck happened to him? I mean we've all seen ZONE and if that really is Yusei then what the heck happened to his body? He's in a mecha suit and he reminds me of a white colored Darth Vader. Perhaps he was protected by the Crimson Dragon during some kind of explosion and survived? Who knows... Guess we just have ta wait and see. --98.155.160.150 (talk) 01:48, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Is Think His Link Unnamed Yliaster member . Is Think President Yliaster

There is precedent. In each YuGiOh, at one point or another the main character becomes evil or antagonistical in some form or another. Yugi with the seal during his first duel with Raphael and Jaden with the Supreme King thing. It is thus likely that ZONE is Yusei in some form or another, aided by the fact they never said how far in the future that Aporia and Company came from..--KrspaceT (talk • contribs) 02:25, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Of Likely That ZONE or Unnamed Yliaster member Evil Basic yu gi 5ds

Did you think zone is the main evil in Season 1 and 2 of yugi 5d ?

Physical Description

Something that is really bugging me is that EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE in the section describing ZONE's appearance, it compares him to Yusei (i.e., his jacket is like Yusei's because of this, his machine-body looks like Yusei's D-Wheel because of this, etc.). Conspiracy theorists, as far as we have been informed ZONE is NOT Yusei, and should not have every aspect of his appearance compared to Yusei. One or two particularly noteworthy mentions is one thing. Treating the entire section as a comparison piece is quite another. Thus, I would like permission to change that part of the article slightly and remove all the references to Yusei. 96.48.20.101 (talk) 04:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

People aren't saying that ZONE isn't Yusei, they just can't post that ZONE is Yusei since there's been no official confirmation, just a bunch of guesses. We kind of have to say the similarities, but if it's better, we can put the similarities into a single sentence instead almost all of them.--Zeromaro (talk • contribs) 05:07, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

i think zone is Unnamed Yliaster member

yes me to I think zone is the mystry man

Yeah, but at the bottom of the page, someone had posted that ZONE "most likely" IS Yusei in the future. I personally haven't been up to date this far, so that part really confused me. And from my understanding, there ISN'T any proof that can back up these claims that Yusei is ZONE: just theories. So, if it's just a theory, shouldn't the "most likely" part be removed?

Also, I wouldn't be too keen on comparing him to Yusei. In the last picture near the bottom of the page, you see some of ZONE's face and there's one thing I noticed that made me belive he can't possibly be Yusei: the criminal mark is missing. The shape of the mark is there on his mask...thingy. But you can see through to ZONE's skin and the where the mark should be is just normal skin. There's no criminal mark at all.

Mark of The Dragon Resemblance?

Look at this section's image, the Mark that appears in the video games. Now go take a good look at ZONE in an episode; simplified, he has a very high resemblance to the mark: the spiral shape, three major lines jutting out (those tubes) etc. It's probably not important, but I noticed.

In addition, we should mention that those tubes (capsules?) have cards in them.--火星 WagesWar41px 05:43, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
Uh, what is "Pure and otter COINCIDENCE" for 2,000 Alex. Seriously, it is just coincidence that the 2 things look similar, otherwise, no it isn't worth noting in my opinion. Especially since the MotD that appeared in the Games is "Non-Canon" and really hasn't appeared anywhere OTHER then that Game.Altyrell (talk • contribs) 05:50, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
And in the red corner we have Altyrell being the largest douche imaginable. I already said it's probably not important, I don't see why you had to be a complete twit about it. What about the cards? I'll assume that's a coincidence then. --火星 WagesWar41px 11:42, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't ZONE.....

As far as I can tell, isn't he the main antagonist of basically the whole 5D's series? If so then I think we should add that information. --BGMaxie (talk • contribs) 01:03, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Have Yusei and his gangs knew him at Season 1? How about Season 2? --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 01:06, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Season one was the Signer season, in other words to introduce the Signers as well as Yusei solving his things with Jack, so it does not have a real antagonist, although Jack would fit there. As for Season two, namely of the Dark Signers, if you remember, the emperors of Yliaster (I think Jakob) said that they masterminded the whole Dark Signer plot by having Roman, led the Dark Signers for their plans of destroying Neo Domino, this didn't work and so the Emperors appeared. So basically ZONE is the main antagonist, as he created the Emperors of Yliaster, whom in turn were involved in basically all the events of the series even if indirectly, such as the Zero Reverse, which led to Yusei to live in Satellite and so, towards the events of season one. --BGMaxie (talk • contribs) 01:36, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Jakob is still Aporia, no matter who you think they are. So explain to me, who is the main antagonist in Yugioh first season (Second Season, Part 1, actually, not to confused anyone)? --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 01:39, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Jakob is Aporia, yes. Aporia (the cyborg) was created by ZONE, and Aporia follows ZONE. Which basically means ZONE controls Aporia, which is enough to make ZONE the main antagonist of the series, as The Emperors (or Aporia if you prefer) were behind the events that led to what happens in the series. If you want me to say who is specifically the antagonist of the very first season, that would be Jack. --BGMaxie (talk • contribs) 01:52, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Guess what? ZONE is Yusei. Has been confirmed in episode 144.

ZONE's name?

The Episode 146 says "Z-ONE" but it is still pronounced as "Zone". Wouldn't that mean that this name would be written as Z-ONE? If so then this should be moved to Z-ONE. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 03:09, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

This file confirms that the name is spelt as "Z-one". Move it now? Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 18:46, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yusei

how have we Not written Yusei as Z-one yet? its already been confirmed in future previews, their have been glaringly obvious hints since episode 93, and good god, episode 144....--204.228.23.204 (talk) 16:15, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Remember that Z-one can change his form, so he became Yusei before showing to Antinomy. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 16:20, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
    • Z-one cannot be merged with Yusei, because it's not confirmed actually. It's known that he states he is Yusei, but we don't know if it's true, no matter all the hints given. Z-one did change forms - he was Sherry's dad for a while, so his copycat abilities might have kicked in this time too for no appearent reason. His goals and methods contradict Yusei's so, until the next few episodes are out and running. 79.100.56.11 (talk) 08:56, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
      • Z-one is indeed Yusei, but only in the future, so this article can merge with Yusei, only add to the future set instead. --FredCat 01:30, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah better wait next week. It still isnt clear as this to be true. For all we know Z-one could just be a cyborg or embodiment based on the "Hero of Legend". DracoX (talk • contribs) 02:04, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Z-one is last human, therefore he's Yusei Fudo. I am sure he will be admit that he's Yusei Fudo and this article merge with Yusei's. --FredCat 02:10, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah like said have to wait. DracoX (talk • contribs) 02:32, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I can understand how you can't really judge that Z-One is Yusei from 144, because he did change into Sherry's dad because she wanted to see him. Antinomy did want to be like the "legendary duelist Yusei Fudo," so that could be why Z-One could have changed into him. But after 148, it's kind of obvious that Z-One is Yusei. I really doubt that Z-One is an embodiment, because all of the embodiments are youthful, and Z-One is old. And it even says on this very Wiki that each criminal mark is unique, so Z-One couldn't really make a copy, and if he could, what's that point of going through the trouble?

I'm very excited to see what the writers have in store for us, like where the other Signers ended up in the future and how Yusei gets all of these powers. --96.250.23.6 (talk) 23:37, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

It's because Yusei have all technology that can easily evade his enemies, ever his own past friends. That's how he make it up to trick them. --FredCat 23:41, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Z-one

I think that Zone's name means "The Last One". Z is the last letter of the alphabet, The Last Human

Yusei Fudo

aight.. seriously its official and obvious now. (was confirmed before but w/e..) seriously. people need to stop being in denial. correct information is more important to spoilers. and besides him being Dr. Fudo would be absolutely terrible writing. and theres no hints. he's Yusei from the apocalyptic future. deal with it.--RexGodwin (talk • contribs) 03:41, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. That being said, the image in question is already being used further down the page. I think he can hold off on changing the infobox picture. The episode it's from has not even aired yet, though the mask was destroyed in the previous one. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:03, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody move Z-one to Yusei theres been confirmation that there both the same. DracoX (talk • contribs) 18:48, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not a good idea. Despite being the same character, they're still distinct entities, similar to the situation at Yami Yugi and Pharaoh Atem. Having Z-one and Yusei as a single article would be a linking nightmare, for starters. We also don't know if they're literally the same person, as in one timeline, or if we're dealing with multiple timelines, in which case they are technically different characters. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:29, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah maybe but anyway guess we can't link. Too many details that differ them which roads to another theory when it comes that Z-one claims to be Yusei. That Z-one itself like Aporia, Bruno and Paradox, is an embodiment of Yusei. That one would make sense for next episodes title "Revived Hero", as Z-one states that Yusei is an hero, then episode would make sense when referring to Z-one. As Z-one is duplicate of the hero of legend. DracoX (talk • contribs) 01:01, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
DracoX, Zone isn't an embodiment of Yusei, he IS Yusei! --Novafan365, master of scrap (talk • contribs) 16:25, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
Am not saying that he isn't neither but we will have to wait to confirm all. DracoX (talk • contribs) 17:09, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
I agree. He's not like Aporia, Bruno and probably Paradox. They were reconstructions of their former selves that Z-one created after they died, but Z-one seems to have preserved his own life.
But I'd still say give Z-one and Yusei Fudo separate articles. They're the same person, but I think they're independent enough to have separate articles. They're like Kang and Immortus from the Marvel comics. In both cases, one is a time travelling version of the other. They were born the same person, but due to time travel grew-up very differently and now exist in the same timeline in separate bodies doing different things. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:53, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
In the event that the current Yusei Fudo does grow-up to be Z-one, do everything the same as him and time travel back to battle his former self, I'd say merge because they lived the exact same life. Although, I doubt that will happen as time travel doesn't seem to work that way in Yu-Gi-Oh!. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:00, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


So, it appears that we've all been wrong. Spoilers below.

Apparently Z-one isn't Yusei. He's the Unnamed Yliaster member, who was an Enerdy scientist in the future. He took on Yusei's appearance and legend to inspire hope in the people after the Machine Emperor invasion. Full lineart of the Ylisater member was recently put up somewhere. I'm going to try to locate it and upload it. So now we have to discuss how to merge Z-one, not with Yusei's article, but with the Yliaster member's. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:48, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Is this info from this week's episode or next week's preview?
Merging shouldn't be difficult. Change Z-one's debut to episode 28. Copy the Yliaster member's biography over to a Dark Signers subsection in Z-one's biography and redirect "Unnamed Yliaster member" here. 'Should probably list the Yliaster member's English voice actor too with a note. (Although it's quite hard to find proof of who voices who in the English version.)
Why does the first image in the biography say the Yliaster member is Z-one's creator, rather than Z-one himself? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:54, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
This is based on what was shown on-screen in ep 149. Thinking about it a bit more, we shouldn't merge anything just yet, as it's still unconfirmed. The man the became Z-one resembles the Unnamed Yliaster member, but it's not confirmed to be him yet. Once the episode is subbed, that may confirm it, or it may be revealed next week. It could honestly be a random scientist from the future, but he definately resembles the Yliaster guy.
Whoever originally added the paragraph about it had put that Z-one is an android created by the guy, but that's wrong. I corrected it, but didn't realize that it was referenced in an image caption as well. I'll fix it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:44, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
I am still thinking that Z-one = Yusei because of he have decreasing through killing or accidentally stab in the right eye (which explain the cyborg part replacing) then the mysterious man decided to revive him by put that Cyborg technology on his head, covered the right side. The real point of why I considered Z-One is Yusei Fudo, it's because Z-one aged. Android don't age, Robot does not too, so only Cyborg (human with machine supporting) can aging. And also remember that episode, Z-one was calling "Last Human", Human mean real living person, not machine, not android. Though Z-one's friends, Antimony, Aporia and Paradox, have dead and replaced by androids, while Yusei Fudo still Cyborg. Though Yusei have dead, his signer mark is gone for good, as it passed to next bearer, but himself is still known as Signer person, since he still able to summoning "Shooting Star Dragon", which other cannot. As declaring the reason why Jack only able to do a Burn Soul and summoning "Red Nova Dragon". Yes, I have too many evidences that would prove Z-one is still living Yusei Fudo, only with cyborg on the right side of his head. --FredCat 21:28, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
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