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Contents
Welcome
Welcome to the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia, feel free to ask me if you have doubts. --Tyrant Slayer 14:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
ACG
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Friendly Comment
Hey Rayqui, glad to see you like my deck. If you want to, you can look at EHeroDarkNeos' page. Have you considred using cards like Hunter Dragon in your deck to strengthen your Cyberdark monsters? EHeroFlareNeos 04:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Great Deck!! but may I make a suggestion. Take out Trap Hole for Bottomless Trap Hole. -- Dragon of chaos 04:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Response
Neo-Spacian Glow Moss was already there, and CED and CTD need to die so that Metamorphosis can be made legal at 3. --Crab Helmet 18:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- The real question is "Why shouldn't Metamorphosis be unbanned?" In the absence of Thousand-Eyes Restrict, Cyber Twin Dragon, and Cyber End Dragon, Metamorphosis is not broken at all, and takes a lot more skill to use properly (and benefits a wider variety of decks) than the Cyber Dragon Fusions. If a card isn't bad for the game at 3, it should be legal at 3. --Crab Helmet 00:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Even if Metamorphosis is one of the only ways to summon Cyber End Dragon, that's like saying that Butterfly Dagger - Elma should be legal because it's one of the only ways to use Gearfried the Iron Knight. Remember that Cyber-Stein was used with Cyber End Dragon too. Especially now that we have cards like Yubel and Metal Reflect Slime, getting out Cyber End Dragon with Metamorphosis is far too easy. By the way, a single The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion can be used with 2 Cyber Dragons to summon Cyber End Dragon; The Light's effect is not a Fusion Summon, so it can be used as a Fusion Substitute Monster for it. However, note that Cyber Twin Dragon is almost always better than Cyber End Dragon. As for Gyroid and The Dark Door...there are plenty of two-card combos that block attacks, such as Macro Cosmos plus Gravekeeper's Servant. It's not overpowered. Plus, as I explain in the Semi-Limited section, there is no point in ever Semi-Limiting a card. --Crab Helmet 18:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I problably shouldn't but in, but Crab Helmet said you could use the Light's effect to Special Summon not Fusion Summon the Cyber Dragon Fusions, so it can be used as a sub. -- Deltaneos 22:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Considering that I said I was referring to The Light's effect, and that I stated that it was not a Fusion Summon, it was fairly obvious that I was referring to its effect on the field. Unless, you know, you've found a way to get its second effect to activate while it's in the hand, despite the wording on the card... >_> Read my posts before you respond to them, K?
- The point of banning CED and CTD is that you CAN'T get them out with a legal Metamorphosis. Read my last post better.
- Any card that is good for the game at 2 is good for the game at 3. Any card that is bad for the game at 3 is bad for the game at 2. The reduced chances of drawing it is irrelevant. Also, in case you thought that people stopped using Cydra solely because it was Semi-Limited, you're wrong; they stopped using it because PTDN came out, and Cydra isn't DARK. Even when Cydra was at 3, many only ran 2 copies of him. None of the cards you list deserve to be Semi-Limited, especially since nobody would even run the majority of them at 3 anyhow (for example, LADD was never run at more than 2; Malicious is the exception here, since most would run 3 of him, but it's still fine at 3, especially with Treeborn Frog banned).
- If a card was created that damages the game, it needs to be removed to improve the game. Existence does not justify legality. Any card can be countered, but even a card that can be countered can damage the game. The lack of originality in the people who live in your neighborhood has no bearing on the subject at hand.
- Your point of view is wrong.
- Skull Dice and Graceful Dice were already there. I would advise you to read better. --Crab Helmet 23:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Now you're just grasping at straws, and many of those straws aren't even able to stay in your fingers. Counter Traps can be used to counter anything, Trap Hole DOES NOT WORK, since it only responds to Normal Summons, and Skill Drain DOES NOT WORK, since the second effect of The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion requires you to tribute the monsters in question as a cost; it will resolve in the graveyard, so Skill Drain can't stop it. Metamorphosis makes them too easy to get out; that's why, to make it legal, they need to die.
- There are other Fusion monsters in the game besides those three sucky beatsticks. Metamorphosis has plenty of better uses.
- Perhaps it will be used again with LODT, but it does lack a mill effect, which is a problem; Lightlords, thanks to the ridiculous brokenness of Judgment Dragoon, will be the biggest threat to Dark Armed Return thus far. They've already dominated the OCG, but over there Allure of Darkness doesn't exist. Anyhow, the fact that most only ran 2 Cydra before the March 2008 banlist shows that it wasn't Cydra's Semi-Limiting that killed it; it was an entire shift in the game state.
- Yes, I might.
- Breaker the Magical Warrior is one of the more borderline and arguable ones, but remember that he's an instant +1 with MST-esque s/t removal that can also swing for 1600. Sinister Serpent makes all discard costs nullified, not just Tribe-Infecting Virus. Yata-Garasu doesn't need Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End to be broken.
- No, some points of view are right, and others are wrong. It might be my point of view that the US invaded Iraq to spread liberty and freedom and to stop a dangerous terrorist organization, but my point of view would be wrong. It might be my point of view that Larvae Moth is a highly useful card, but my point of view would be wrong.
- Not every card whose effect includes drawing is a nerfed Pot of Greed. Also, Book of Life comes with a D.D. Crow-like effect, whereas Monster Reborn does not. --Crab Helmet 15:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- The controller of The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion can claim priority and activate The Light's effect before Trap Hole can be activated, so Trap Hole does nothing. Bottomless Trap Hole can stop the vast majority of Fusion Monsters, but falls under "counterability does not imply balance".
- Limiting a Fusion Monster does nothing. Though errata'ing Cyber Twin Dragon and Cyber End Dragon would be a better solution, that is far harder to do that to make a new banlist.
- Themes that win more are used more. It's as simple as that.
- Fiend Skull Dragon is an excellent example. Many more excellent examples can be found on this page.
- Remember how Chaos decks still dominated when Chaos Sorcerer was the only legal Chaos monster? Yeah. No Chaos Sorcerer. Tsukuyomi is stronger than ever with Magician of Faith at 3, Last Will's effect is so easy to activate that it may as well read "Special Summon one monster from your deck", and Last Turn is even more broken than ever now that Wall of Revealing Light is at 3. THE WORLD actually isn't a bad idea, but Limiting it does nothing, since it doesn't help the game at 1 but hurt it at 3; it should either be at 3 or at 0.
- Why yes, I think I will use Larvae Moth as bait for Nobleman of Crossout. All I need to do is summon Petit Moth, equip it with Cocoon of Evolution, somehow make it survive for two turns, tribute Petit Moth to Special Summon Larvae Moth, activate Book of Moon to flip Larvae Moth face-down, and then hope that my opponent is so dense that he's forgotten that my card is Larvae Moth and happens to have Nobleman of Crossout in his hand. What an excellent move. </sarcasm> The existence of an argument does not mean that that argument is valid. The universe isn't communist. Not all arguments are equal. Many arguments are more equal than others.
- Actually, I would say that Detonator Circle "A" is a nerfed Ring of Destruction; even though it involves A-Counters, it serves the same purpose, causes no additional affects, and is always worse (unless the opponent has 900 LP left and controls a 500 ATK monster with A-Counters, but ridiculously situational things like that don't count; otherwise, Hero Barrier could be considered superior to Mirror Force on the grounds that it stops the attack of Total Defense Shogun). Thanks, I'll add it. I know that Hero Barrier doesn't destroy, but destruction is always better than negation, and the two otherwise serve the same purpose; it's there for the same reason that Negate Attack is there. --Crab Helmet 17:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's not really like the Monarchs; the Monarchs have Trigger Monster Effects that activate when they are Tribute Summoned, but the Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters' second effect is an Ignition Monster Effect that can be activated by claiming priority. But the end result is essentially the same, except for immunity to Pulling the Rug and By Order of the Emperor.
- I doubt they'd listen, but you can give it a try if you want.
- When they stop winning, they stop seeing play. However, some themes, even once people learn to counter them, are still better than others; for example, Dark Armed Return will never be inferior to Crystal Beasts until a new banlist kills Dark Armed Return.
- Revoke Fusion is terrible. There are three-card combos that instantly win games (like Chain Material + Fusion Gate + Catapult Turtle); it requires a three-card combo (including Polymerization) in order to get out one monster for one turn. Just stick with Overload Fusion.
- Arcana Force EX - The Light Ruler is balanced by a difficult summoning condition. If you're looking for a broken Arcana Force card, look no further than Cup of Ace - despite being a terrible card, it needs to be banned.
- Just because an argument exists doesn't mean that it is correct; the fact that you have just "proven" that Larvae Moth is a useful card proves this.
- Gryphon's Feather Duster says it "destroys", which means that it activates cards like Dark Coffin - its real purpose. Emergency Provisions does not "destroy". Mystic Wok is neither a nerfed nor a buffed version of those cards; it is simply different. If you're fusing Evil Hero Dark Gaia to summon another copy of itself, you're wasting your effect and doing it wrong; Evil Hero Infernal Gainer is the way to go. --Crab Helmet 20:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Anything can be countered, and the Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters aren't any more counterable than anything else.
- Not necessarily. UDE has been ignoring its customers for years.
- E-Heroes can be decent if they're built properly. But the ones that are all like "LOL 3 AVIAN, 3 NEOS, 3 POLYMERIZATION, 4 HERO BARRIER, I R JAYDEN??" are terrible, which is why E-Heroes have bad rep.
- Why would you want Revoke Fusion back? The Armed Dragon LV7Armed Dragon]] series is better.
- Many of those cards are -1's, and summoning THE LIGHT RULER is a -3 in itself. Also, I'm glad that Attribute#DARK is finally getting some balanced support; most of the PTDN stuff was either ridiculously overpowered or hilariously underpowered.
- No, the argument can be a proof. It just isn't necessarily a proof.
- You can't accumulate double attacks; no matter how many double attacks you have, you can still only attack twice. It's for the same reason that Twin Swords of Flashing Light - Tryce doesn't let The Six Samurai - Nisashi attack three or four times.
- I run an awesome Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon build that I invented. It runs 3 Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon, because that's how pro I am. --Crab Helmet 21:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Spiritualism cannot be countered. Super Polymerization cannot be countered. Those are the only ones that come to mind, and as you can see, they are terrible.
- Probably. >.>
- Elemental Hero Phoenix Enforcer is terrible, especially since its Fusion Material Monsters are both terrible.
- Cyber End Dragon can't be summoned via Revoke Fusion. Cyber Dragon can, but unless CED can be placed in your hand, it can't.
- Lulz.
- So?
- K. Closed.
- Anyone who would actually want to summon Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon is a terrible duelist. I run him because he's a Level 8 DARK Nomi Machine. --Crab Helmet 21:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Even if Metamorphosis is one of the only ways to summon Cyber End Dragon, that's like saying that Butterfly Dagger - Elma should be legal because it's one of the only ways to use Gearfried the Iron Knight. Remember that Cyber-Stein was used with Cyber End Dragon too. Especially now that we have cards like Yubel and Metal Reflect Slime, getting out Cyber End Dragon with Metamorphosis is far too easy. By the way, a single The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion can be used with 2 Cyber Dragons to summon Cyber End Dragon; The Light's effect is not a Fusion Summon, so it can be used as a Fusion Substitute Monster for it. However, note that Cyber Twin Dragon is almost always better than Cyber End Dragon. As for Gyroid and The Dark Door...there are plenty of two-card combos that block attacks, such as Macro Cosmos plus Gravekeeper's Servant. It's not overpowered. Plus, as I explain in the Semi-Limited section, there is no point in ever Semi-Limiting a card. --Crab Helmet 18:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
About your deck
I don't know but your deck looks "creepy" in good way...--Neos lover 16:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
what?
I like to read your messages to crab helment and his messages to you and I have a question why the hell would you limit Jar of Greed? -- Dragon of chaos 14:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Jar of Greed limited? LOLWUT? --Crab Helmet 21:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- So you say that Jar of Greed is the card to draw from your deck, need I remined you that there is Reckless Greed and Legacy of Yata-Garasu and other's that I can't think of, and Call of the Haunted is banned. -- Dragon of chaos 22:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Duel Spirit
How many do you have? Dmaster 21:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Dmaster
- Congradulations with the good cards (I'm sure you knew this but incase you did not, "Fair Enough" was directed to you beliefs, not your (Awesome) pack drawing skills). Dmaster 15:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I guess you could say that (while sharpening a knife :) ), I liked him in the 4th season, and 4kids will probably screw that up. Dmaster 16:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Amen. (Kaiba rules) XD. Dmaster 16:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd like to say Zane (Cyber End Dragon is similar to Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon), but Chazz is Jaden's rival (As Kaiba was to Yugi). My strongest guess is Zane (his Tactics, Cyber=Blue Eyes, little brother who won't stop crying :) ,etc.). Dmaster 16:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if not using dragons counts, why not crowler. He was more antagonistic at the begining then the end like Kaiba. Gear Golem=Blue-Eyes in ATK, Ultimate Golem=Ultimate Dragon, lost in both duels with Jaden(Kaibe often lost), and both their decks were based on summoning their trump cards (as with Zane). Plus even though you're dead on with Aster...he and Jaden(if Jaden represnets Yugi of course) rarly interact and outside of the 2nd season are not that antagonistic. In a nutshell I have not freaken idea, all four are good canditites. Template:D.Kaiser/Signature
- So, who do you think it is. Both series mirrior each other but not exactly. Jaden has more than one "rival" while Yugi truly only had close to one. I would say Zane and Crowler(Decks), Chazz just as a rival, Aster(by placement:Double, and normal duels). But truly I don't think there is one definite answer. Dmaster (Contribs • Count) 17:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if not using dragons counts, why not crowler. He was more antagonistic at the begining then the end like Kaiba. Gear Golem=Blue-Eyes in ATK, Ultimate Golem=Ultimate Dragon, lost in both duels with Jaden(Kaibe often lost), and both their decks were based on summoning their trump cards (as with Zane). Plus even though you're dead on with Aster...he and Jaden(if Jaden represnets Yugi of course) rarly interact and outside of the 2nd season are not that antagonistic. In a nutshell I have not freaken idea, all four are good canditites. Template:D.Kaiser/Signature
- I'd like to say Zane (Cyber End Dragon is similar to Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon), but Chazz is Jaden's rival (As Kaiba was to Yugi). My strongest guess is Zane (his Tactics, Cyber=Blue Eyes, little brother who won't stop crying :) ,etc.). Dmaster 16:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Amen. (Kaiba rules) XD. Dmaster 16:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I guess you could say that (while sharpening a knife :) ), I liked him in the 4th season, and 4kids will probably screw that up. Dmaster 16:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Congradulations with the good cards (I'm sure you knew this but incase you did not, "Fair Enough" was directed to you beliefs, not your (Awesome) pack drawing skills). Dmaster 15:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I tip my hat to you...
Nice Destiny Hero deck. I always thought all destiny hero decks stunk, but yours looks pretty impressive.
Humph...
Well I’m sure you would have found this anyway, but I invite you so you can give me your full opinion. Dmaster (Contribs • Count) 20:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Image Policy
Please check the Image Policy, to see how to name card images. Also images with site names printed over them are to be avoided. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Forum Problem
You know if you read my forum for help on a dragon deck, you would know that due to many changes in my deck the list is posted on my user page. Thanks for your help if that was my deck but it isn't. Airblade86 23:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Weekly Deck Competition
Hey, Rayqui I invite you to join the Forum:Weekly Deck Competition visit this link and think about it it's fun I'm one of the judges and so far we only have three people in it so think about it. I think you would do good. -- Dragon of chaos 18:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, making judges is not my call, but I'll ask Chris about it. -- Dragon of chaos 20:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- You may compete, but not judge. Thanks for your interest. Chris427 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Stolen F.G.D
Yeah some guy stole it from me and won't admit it. Bluedog187 asked me this too. Airblade86 18:43, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Structure Deck 9: Dinosaur's roar special edition. You can't get it in stores anymore and they usually trick you online. Airblade86 18:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Like I said to 5,000 other people, HPBD is there because I ran out of Lvl 4 or lower dragons it was that or Rare metal dragon which is a pain to summon. Airblade86 19:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Don't be. I wish i could replace it with something like Hunter Dragon but I can't. Airblade86 19:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Don't have them. Airblade86 20:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ill try to get them if i can. Airblade86 20:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC) XD
- i got my eyes on Stardust Dragon but for now Im trying to get Dragonic Knight. Airblade86 20:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- No because it powers down and will be almost useless after 2 turns. Dragonic Knight won't power down. Airblade86 21:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- I could also have Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Airblade86 15:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. I'll be getting it soon. It just lacks an effect that's all. Airblade86 18:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have any idea how hard it is to pull out?Airblade86 18:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, for what? Airblade86 19:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome. (^_^) Airblade86 19:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)