Forum:Help constructing new earth/light deck

I have liked earth monsters because they lean towards the defensive side, and I have liked light because of how strong it can be. I now want to try and build a deck full of Light and earth monsters, but it doesn't have to be all earth monsters. In the deck, I would like to focus on Xyz summoning, Synchro summoning, or a bit of both, or try a deck-lockdown. Any ideas for the deck? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 01:21, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Some ideas:

"Sphinx": the EARTH monsters are defensive, while the LIGHT are offensive.

"Chronomaly": they are capable of swarming the field for Xyz Summons, and with "Chronomaly Golden Jet" changing Levels it's possible to do Synchro Summons.

Warrior Toolbox: usualy Warriors have good EARTH and LIGHT options ("Marauding Captain", "D.D. Warrior Lady", for example).

--Missign0 (talk • contribs) 02:46, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

These are my thoughts on what you have suggested:

• Sphinx: I have a few cards from here, at least one of each of the light sphinxes and the trap card Pyramid of Light, and even tried to use a deck of them on dueling network with just the earth monsters. The deck is excellent, I constantly send my opponent's monsters back to their hand, and with Exxod I can burn their points at the same time.
• Chronomaly: I haven't yet tried to use a deck on D.N., but would definitely cover my wanting to xyz summon. Speaking of which, the have three xyz monsters right?
• Warrior: If I where to use a warrior deck, I think I could use it for the conditions I listed. I could include a few tuners, Synchros, Xyz, and I could not forget at least 2 of Valkyrian Knight and Marauding Captain.

I also had thoughts on a deck that might be able to include some of my fav. cards: Marshmallon, Zoma the Spirit, some of the Gagaga cards, Kurivolt, Mystic Swordsman, ect. Do you think it would be posible to build a deck with any of my fav. cards? Maybe like a burn/stall deck or something? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 12:01, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

You might want to focus on a bizzare Chronomaly Gem-Knight deck. Gem-Knights can use the rock Chronomaly monsters to make Zirconia, as well as light for Seraphnite, which allows an additional normal summon once per turn. I can make a rudimentary decklist for you to use as a basis if you would like. Jet-Black Nova (talk • contribs) 14:09, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

That sounds interesting, I guess I'll se what you have. I want to try and see what kinds of decks there are before I make a final decision anyways. Also I just remembered, I already constructed a warrior toolbox deck, the deck list is in "a deck fit for a knight" in the deck help forms. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 17:43, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Out of what has been listed, I have eliminated Sphinx and Warrior toolbox. However, even though I am about to make a final desition between a PURE Chronomaly deck, a Chronomaly/Gem-Knight deck, and a deck that involves what I had listed in another post that includes some of my fav. cards, I still need more ideas/help for the deck. If you can, find some more deck types that qualifies with what I listed in the first post, or maybe list the advantages and disadvantages of the three deck types I have listed in this post. Thanks if you can help. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 01:26, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I almost forgot. If you want me to post a list of some of my fav. cards, let me know on my talk page. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 01:28, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

I still haven't decided between the three decks I am so far looking at, but I could still use ideas. Later on to day, I am going to post a card list of my fav. cards (that I currently oun). If there is something that you might see that could be incorporate into a deck that could use sychro, xyz, lock-down, stall, and/or burn, please let me know. Thanks if you can help. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 13:55, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

This is a list of some of my fav. cards that I currently have:

These are my fav. cards that I don't oun, most of which I am looking for:

Please let me know I there is anything you see about the cards. If you think of a deck, tell me. Then I will tell you whether or not I am Interested/already made that deck. the reason why I posted them is so i can find a means to give the third deck idea a name. If you where wondering what that deck was, look at one of my earlier posts on this page. Thanks if you can help (knowing it might take a while to read the names, and look at the cards. XD) --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 22:13, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Two quick things: 1. Is the first list too long? I am sorry for having so many fav. cards, but if I can look through them all in half a day, so could you. 2. I wonder why no one has responded yet? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 21:04, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Have you ever considered building around your choice spell/trap cards, rather than around your favorite monster cards? You may find this process quite revealing and highly productive, once said spell/trap cards have found their home. It took me quite a long time to find a way, and, it was a gradual process, beginning with certain key elements (some monster related, though only situational) but, I find that building now produces far better results than before I had found so, and I am never at a loss for new, intriguing builds, due to (ironically) the seemingly endless influx of monsters to do said spell/traps bidding. The first, and most important step in the process is, to show complete disregard for monsters, OTHER THAN acknowledging that these are integral (in most cases) to facilitating a highly fuctioning build. The goal is, to refine the monster line up to be most compatible with the choice spell/trap cards, and, the build will naturally draw nearer to it's conclusion, or (temporary) ceiling, until a point that new and/or different and/or combinations of spell/traps/monsters that further support the builds functionality, become available. The highest form of a build, would be that which makes irrelevant the current "top tier" decks in any given format, using such a method, and not necessarily relying on cards included in the current "top tier" to do so. The most recent format, and the decisions made for it, are certainly for the better, and encourage individuality, rather than to continually feed the ever growing hordes Konami has catered to for far too long (a$ wa$ to the delight of Konami), using what they have been "told" to use, through the ongoing release of new cards (DECKS) that inevitably rise to the upper most tier. In other words, Konami finally got it right to diminish, not merely a specifically targeted group of (moreso than not) individual cards, but the DECKS that abuse them, abusable by virtue of being part of that particular group.(ex:DRAGON RULERS) Praise to Konami for doing so, and they will not lose out monetary-wise, because there are many with the will to carry on, carrying the knowledge that there is far more to be gained through building, than merely collecting all the cards required for the newest deck. Hopefully, by Konami keeping a truly watchful eye on what cards are limited/semi-limited/limited with respect to tier decks and their emergence, this game will become what it is suppossed to have been from the beginning, an enjoyable challenge. And, by refining what cards can be used, (or even released in the first place, KONAMI) perhaps the client base will be likewise refined, and more inviting to the player who praises skill over, well, if you know, you are in the know, you know?

N Kram (talk • contribs) 18:01, October 1, 2013 (UTC)N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 18:01, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Never came to mind that I could focus on the spell/traps for my deck, I'll give it a try. I'll try and think of a deck list to start out this deck. If the end results ends up being something I like, I am ditching the other two. and vise-verse if I don't like the final results. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 20:48, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

An earth creature you may find useful is Dust Knight, though it may be considered slow, due to it having a flip effect, it can send a Dandylion, Revival Golem, (Revival Golem-think of an earth version of Wulf, Lightsworn Beast, with more or less inverted stats) or another earth attribute to the grave.

N Kram (talk • contribs) 16:45, October 3, 2013 (UTC) N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 16:45, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thease are the cards I have lowerd the list to:

Anything I could eliminate to make the cards around 40 cards? After that, I'll talk other cards. --I may not be perfect, but that's who I am. (talk • contribs) 00:23, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

After a quick scanning of your monster line up..

Blockman - Excellent illustration, but it's stats are meek and because of this it's effect will rarely, if ever, be gained. (and if so, only due to stall cards such as t-roar, also the good fortune of it remaining on the field for 1 + turns for it's effect to be used) Not worth the trouble (imo) in any deck, except in a billy-esque build, or a lego/block theme.

Guardian Eatos - Far too situational, and with continuous cards that force monster banishment (macro/d-fissure) currently limited, this monster's only other use would (likely) be in a build heavy with equip cards, or in a build that is able to effectively regulate the grave in such a way that it is empty, or can be emptied of it's current monsters at any time. It's fairy type status is of no consequence, unless it is present in a banish-focused fairy build.

Heroic Challenger Extra Sword - 1000 attk boost is nearly always a positive, but the card itself does not push for xyz summons, unlike Kagetokage, which is far better suited for an xyz-centric build, and is as splashable today as a pool in mid summer.

Horus - should (almost exclusively) be confined to a Horus build. (imo)

Silent Swordsman - see above (Horus), and, though lv 5 has an excellent built-in defense, its attk stat is unremarkable, but (perhaps) balanced by it's warrior type status.

Sorceror of Dark Magic - an alluring effect to be sure, but it is quite a hassle to summon (in most cases) Shouldn't be anywhere near a non-spellcaster build, which would utilize a number of Spellcasters begging for a Solidarity or two.

Stardust Dragon Assault mode - This creature belongs in a build focused around itself, and requires additional cards to function normally. (assault beast/assault mode activate, etc)

I hope any of this was helpful.

N Kram (talk • contribs) 14:39, October 4, 2013 (UTC)N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 14:39, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

I can see why you suggest I get rid of some of them, and this is what is in the deck so far:

These are the ones I don't understand, and you will need to clarify a bit more as to why I should take them out. Then I want you to suggest a card that is equal in effect.

Heroic Challenger - Extra sword: Do you not see inferno reckless summon and Marauding Captain?

Horus: How else am I suppose to negate ALL of my opponents spells?

Sorcerer of Dark Magic: How else am I suppose to negate ALL of my opponents traps?

Silent Swordsman: I'm not entirely sure weather or not to take him out.

Otherwise, try helping my eliminate a few more cards. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 21:35, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but the point being, there are far too many in the first place, the first and most important step is to reduce, and reduce more. I will look at the others on Monday, and try to help.

N Kram (talk • contribs) 21:59, October 4, 2013 (UTC)N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 21:59, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

The list of cards are not a deck yet, but still just a list of potential cards. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 23:52, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

I see that you're, once again, falling into the mentality of a "do-anything" Deck. Yes, Horus and Sorcerer of Dark Magic are awesome. But tossing them into any Deck without proper thought will result in theme clashes, dead draws, and ultimately a Deck that doesn't make the best of them. You have to realize that every theme has its flaws and not enough efficient space to accommodate a "do anything" strategy.

As a consolation prize, Royal Decree is the go-to card for Trap negation, and focusing around Silent Swordsman will fulfill your wish for universal Spell negation. Yes, I understand it will also negate your own cards, but building it that way will make the Deck run more fluidly than simply splashing Horus and Sorcerer of Dark Magic. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 02:09, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I accept. This is what is in the list so far:

Anything else I could cross off the list? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 03:38, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Any suggestions on what more I should take out? Still not yet talking others till there are 40 cards left. --I may not be perfect, but that's who I am. (talk • contribs) 20:53, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

I thought about this page? May as well get a card list for Chronomalies. I would like the deck to focus on synchro and xyz summoning. Any idea what to put it? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 20:48, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ante & Tricky Spell are far too situational to make any use of with the cards you currently have listed. These 2 spells can be removed easily without regret.

N Kram (talk • contribs) 21:50, October 24, 2013 (UTC)N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 21:50, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

It seems there is a general lack of focus in your cards, there being mostly singles throughout. I recommend finding a field spell that suits you, and build from there. If you do so, the rest of the spell/trap/monsters should naturally follow. For instance, try building around the field spell "Geartown", one of the more easily and effectively utilized field spells currently available.

N Kram (talk • contribs) 21:57, October 24, 2013 (UTC)N KramN Kram (talk • contribs) 21:57, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I said I want ideas for a Chronomaly deck, not advice on the "soon to be a deck" card list I put up, If you want to see what I have in that deck, just ask. otherwise please help me make a chronomaly deck. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 23:46, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Might I suggest that you start a new thread/topic, since you are totally changing the deck you wish to discuss? You might get more interest that way. ---Kungfu-mama (Talk) 21:53, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Chronomaly is original to this trend. the list you see is just a list of cards, nothing more. Not only that, I still seek to build a Light/Earth deck, and I am now considering Chronomalies to be that deck. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talk • contribs) 22:39, October 25, 2013 (UTC)