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| − | * | + | *You can activate the effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" during the [[Damage Step]].<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=15245&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: [Damage Step] Can the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" be activated during the Damage Step?</ref> |
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| + | *If "[[Offerings to the Doomed]]"/"[[Raigeki Break]]"/etc is [[chain]]ed to the Spell/Trap Card-negating effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]"/"[[Dark Paladin]]"/"[[Sorcerer of Dark Magic]]"/"[[Gladiator Beast Heraklinos]]" so that "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" etc is not face-up on the field at [[resolution]], then the Spell/Trap Card is neither negated nor destroyed.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=47857&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: If "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is not face-up on the field when resolving the effect, is the Spell Card negated?</ref> | ||
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| + | *The effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" is not considered to destroy [[Spell Card]]s on the field. Therefore, its activation cannot be negated by the effect of "[[Stardust Dragon]]".<ref>[http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=11290&request_locale=ja Konami OCG Card Database]: If a Spell Card is activated from the hand, and the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is activated in a chain to negate its activation and destroy it, can the effect of "Stardust Dragon" be activated in a chain to negate the activation of the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"? Also, if a Set Spell Card on the field is activated, and the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is activated, can its activation be negated by "Stardust Dragon" effect?</ref> | ||
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| + | * Note that "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" has the word "except" in its Summoning conditions, which means that even if [[Special Summon]]ed properly, you cannot revive it with "[[Monster Reborn]]" afterwards if it is [[destroyed]]. | ||
| − | * The "you" in "on your side of the field" is the current [[controller]]’s field, so as long as "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" is [[face-up]], it is always "[[face-up]] on your side of the field". | + | * The "you" in "on your side of the field" is the current [[controller]]’s field, so as long as "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" is [[face-up]], it is always "[[face-up]] on your side of the field". |
| − | * The ability of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" to [[negate]] [[Spell Card]]s is a [[Quick]] effect that must be chained to the activation of the [[Spell Card]]. You can activate this effect multiple times in the same chain to [[negate]] the activation and effect of several [[Spell Card]]s that are activated in the same [[chain]]. | + | * The ability of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" to [[negate]] [[Spell Card]]s is a [[Quick]] effect that must be chained to the activation of the [[Spell Card]]. You can activate this effect multiple times in the same chain to [[negate]] the activation and effect of several [[Spell Card]]s that are activated in the same [[chain]]. |
| − | * You can [[chain]] the effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" to the activation of a [[Continuous Spell Card]], [[Field Spell Card]], or [[Equip Spell Card]] and [[negate]] it. However, if the [[Continuous Spell Card|Continuous]], [[Field]], or [[Equip Spell Card]] is already active, you cannot later decide to try and [[negate]] its effect with "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]". You can only [[negate]] it when it is originally activated. | + | * You can [[chain]] the effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" to the activation of a [[Continuous Spell Card]], [[Field Spell Card]], or [[Equip Spell Card]] and [[negate]] it. However, if the [[Continuous Spell Card|Continuous]], [[Field]], or [[Equip Spell Card]] is already active, you cannot later decide to try and [[negate]] its effect with "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]". You can only [[negate]] it when it is originally activated. |
| − | * You can activate the effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" during the [[Damage Step]]. | + | * You can activate the effect of "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" during the [[Damage Step]]. |
===Mentions in Other Rulings=== | ===Mentions in Other Rulings=== | ||
| − | * '''[[Card Rulings:Clock Tower Prison|Clock Tower Prison]]''': | + | * '''[[Card Rulings:Clock Tower Prison|Clock Tower Prison]]''': Putting a [[Clock Counter]] on “[[Clock Tower Prison]]” can be chained to. The effect to Special Summon “[[Destiny Hero - Dreadmaster]]” can also be chained to. Even though this can be [[chain]]ed to, it cannot be [[chain]]ed to with an effect that [[negate]]s the [[activation]] of a [[Spell Card]], such as..."[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]" because the "[[Clock Tower Prison]]" card has already [[resolve]]d. |
* '''[[Card Rulings:Fairy Guardian|Fairy Guardian]]''': [[Spell Cards]] that are eligible for this card's effect include...[[Spell Cards]] [[negate]]d and [[destroyed]] by an opponent's..."[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]"... | * '''[[Card Rulings:Fairy Guardian|Fairy Guardian]]''': [[Spell Cards]] that are eligible for this card's effect include...[[Spell Cards]] [[negate]]d and [[destroyed]] by an opponent's..."[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]"... | ||
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Level Modulation|Level Modulation]]''': An [[LV Monster Cards|"LV" monster]] that normally cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed except by the method in its text CANNOT be [[Special Summon]]ed from the [[Graveyard]] with "[[Level Modulation]]" unless it has been previously [[Special Summon]]ed by the correct procedure. The "ignore the Summoning conditions" text allows for these [[monsters]] to be [[Special Summon]]ed only after they have been properly [[Summon]]ed by their own effect. This applies to "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]"... | * '''[[Card Rulings:Level Modulation|Level Modulation]]''': An [[LV Monster Cards|"LV" monster]] that normally cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed except by the method in its text CANNOT be [[Special Summon]]ed from the [[Graveyard]] with "[[Level Modulation]]" unless it has been previously [[Special Summon]]ed by the correct procedure. The "ignore the Summoning conditions" text allows for these [[monsters]] to be [[Special Summon]]ed only after they have been properly [[Summon]]ed by their own effect. This applies to "[[Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8]]"... | ||
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Contents
OCG Rulings
- You can activate the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" during the Damage Step.[1]
- If "Offerings to the Doomed"/"Raigeki Break"/etc is chained to the Spell/Trap Card-negating effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"/"Dark Paladin"/"Sorcerer of Dark Magic"/"Gladiator Beast Heraklinos" so that "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" etc is not face-up on the field at resolution, then the Spell/Trap Card is neither negated nor destroyed.[2]
- The effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is not considered to destroy Spell Cards on the field. Therefore, its activation cannot be negated by the effect of "Stardust Dragon".[3]
Previously Official Rulings
 | These TCG rulings were issued by Upper Deck Entertainment and have since been declared unofficial by Konami.[4] They were previously considered official and can still be correct, as long as they follow the official gameplay rules, or unless Konami has issued a ruling that says otherwise. References: [5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13] |
- Note that "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" has the word "except" in its Summoning conditions, which means that even if Special Summoned properly, you cannot revive it with "Monster Reborn" afterwards if it is destroyed.
- The "you" in "on your side of the field" is the current controller’s field, so as long as "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is face-up, it is always "face-up on your side of the field".
- The ability of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" to negate Spell Cards is a Quick effect that must be chained to the activation of the Spell Card. You can activate this effect multiple times in the same chain to negate the activation and effect of several Spell Cards that are activated in the same chain.
- You can chain the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" to the activation of a Continuous Spell Card, Field Spell Card, or Equip Spell Card and negate it. However, if the Continuous, Field, or Equip Spell Card is already active, you cannot later decide to try and negate its effect with "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8". You can only negate it when it is originally activated.
- You can activate the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" during the Damage Step.
Mentions in Other Rulings
- Clock Tower Prison: Putting a Clock Counter on “Clock Tower Prison” can be chained to. The effect to Special Summon “Destiny Hero - Dreadmaster” can also be chained to. Even though this can be chained to, it cannot be chained to with an effect that negates the activation of a Spell Card, such as..."Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" because the "Clock Tower Prison" card has already resolved.
- Fairy Guardian: Spell Cards that are eligible for this card's effect include...Spell Cards negated and destroyed by an opponent's..."Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"...
- Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6: If you don’t have "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" in your hand or Deck, you cannot send "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6" to the Graveyard to activate its effect.
- Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6: You can activate "Level Up!" and send "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6" to the Graveyard to Special Summon "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" because sending 1 monster to the Graveyard is a cost for "Level Up!" and if a card is unaffected by Spell Cards, that only refers to effects, not to costs.
- Horus' Servant: "Horus' Servant" has an effect just like "Lord of D.", but only applicable to "Horus the Black Flame Dragon". "Horus' Servant" will not negate a card effect. All it does is prevent "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" from being selected as a target. If your opponent selects "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" as a target (with "Ring of Destruction", for example), and you chain "Call of the Haunted" to Special Summon "Horus' Servant", then "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" will still be destroyed by "Ring of Destruction" because "Horus' Servant" is being Special Summoned AFTER "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" was selected. The fact that "Ring of Destruction" has not yet resolved does not matter; "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" was selected at the activation of "Ring of Destruction", and "Horus' Servant" is Special Summoned too late to prevent this.
- Horus' Servant: Your opponent cannot activate a Spell Card, Trap Card, or Monster Effect that would select "Horus the Black Flame Dragon" as a target while "Horus' Servant" is in play. "Horus' Servant" does not cause the effect to be negated; he prevents the activation of the effect in the first place.
- Level Modulation: An "LV" monster that normally cannot be Special Summoned except by the method in its text CANNOT be Special Summoned from the Graveyard with "Level Modulation" unless it has been previously Special Summoned by the correct procedure. The "ignore the Summoning conditions" text allows for these monsters to be Special Summoned only after they have been properly Summoned by their own effect. This applies to "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"...
LV Monster Rulings
Previously Official Rulings
| These TCG rulings were issued by Upper Deck Entertainment and have since been deemed unofficial by Konami.[14] They were previously considered official, but may or may not necessarily hold true nowadays. |
- If a level monster fulfills its condition to Special Summon the next-highest level (for example, if "Armed Dragon LV5" destroys a monster as a result of battle), and the level monster is then flipped face-down, or removed from play permanently, or sent to the Graveyard and then Special Summoned from the Graveyard, then its condition is reset and it is no longer considered to have met the condition to level up to the next level.[15][16][17][18][19]
- If you don’t have "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6" in your hand or Deck, you cannot send "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4" to the Graveyard to activate its effect.[16]
- "If Banisher of the Light" [sic] is in play, you cannot send "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 4" to the Graveyard, so you cannot activate its effect.[16]
- You don’t have to send "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 4" to the Graveyard if you don’t want to, even if it destroyed a monster as a result of battle. But if you activate its effect by sending it to the Graveyard, you must Special Summon "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV 6" if possible.[16]
Mentions in Other Rulings
- Divine Wrath: You can activate "Divine Wrath" when a "LV" monster is sent to the Graveyard to Special Summon the next level version (an
Ignition Effect[Out of Date 1]), and "Divine Wrath" will negate that effect, even though it cannot destroy the "LV" monster because it is already in the Graveyard.
- Level Down!?: You can use “Level Down!?” on a “Neo-Spacian Dark Panther” that is copying an LV Monster. But since it is no longer copying the LV Monster after it has been returned to the Deck, no monster will be Special Summoned.
- Level Modulation: An “LV” monster that normally cannot be Special Summoned except by the method in its text CANNOT be Special Summoned from the Graveyard with “Level Modulation” unless it has been previously Special Summoned by the correct procedure. The “ignore the Summoning conditions” text allows for these monsters to be Special Summoned only after they have been properly Summoned by their own effect. This applies to “Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8”, “Armed Dragon LV7”, “Silent Swordsman LV7”, “Silent Magician LV8”, and “Winged Kuriboh LV10”.
- Neo-Spacian Dark Panther: If you target an “LV” monster, you could Tribute the “Neo-Spacian Dark Panther” to activate the Spell Card “Level Up!”. It will be in the Graveyard when “Level Up!” resolves, so it will no longer have the copied effect, so there is no monster name to reference and therefore the effect disappears.
Notes
- ↑ Some "LV" monsters have Problem-Solving Card Text, which makes clear that the effect to Special Summon the next "LV" monster is Trigger Effect.
References
- ↑ Konami FAQ: [Damage Step] Can the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" be activated during the Damage Step?
- ↑ Konami FAQ: If "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is not face-up on the field when resolving the effect, is the Spell Card negated?
- ↑ Konami OCG Card Database: If a Spell Card is activated from the hand, and the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is activated in a chain to negate its activation and destroy it, can the effect of "Stardust Dragon" be activated in a chain to negate the activation of the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"? Also, if a Set Spell Card on the field is activated, and the effect of "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" is activated, can its activation be negated by "Stardust Dragon" effect?
- ↑ Konami Judge Program Forum: Individual Email Rulings VS Individual Card Rulings
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [A-C]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [D-E]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [F-H]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [I-K]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [L-O]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [P-R]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [S-T]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [U-Z]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: SPECIFIC CARDS RULINGS
- ↑ Konami Judge Program Forum: Individual Email Rulings VS Individual Card Rulings
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [A-C] [ARMED DRAGON LV5]
- ↑ a b c d UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [F-H] [HORUS THE BLACK FLAME DRAGON LV4]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [F-H] [HORUS THE BLACK FLAME DRAGON LV6]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [L-O] [MYSTIC SWORDSMAN LV2]
- ↑ UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [L-O] [MYSTIC SWORDSMAN LV4]
