User:Becasita/SubPages/TalkPage/Archives/2017/March

Category name change

I was wondering if you could use your bot to move Does not require specific Synchro Materials for its Synchro Summon to "Does not require specific Synchro Materials", and change the category name listing across the articles that are already in the category. I feel that it conveys the point of the category better without being too wordy, and would bring it in line with Does not require specific Tuner Synchro Materials and Does not require specific non-Tuner Synchro Materials. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 22:18, March 1, 2017 (UTC))

Thanks a lot for making that category name change. I think it looks a lot better now. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 03:07, March 2, 2017 (UTC))

Requires Synchro Monsters as Synchro Materials

I think I might have a way to figure out the issues with the Requires Synchro Monsters as Synchro Materials category. I've left a message on Talk:Requires Synchro Monsters as Synchro Materials to explain it. I don't know if it's the best solution, but it was something I thought of after a while of trying to figure things out. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 03:45, March 2, 2017 (UTC))

Alright, I put up a reply to your comment. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:04, March 3, 2017 (UTC))

Based on the comment you left on my talk page, I suppose you'll be keeping that talk page on alert or something then. But yeah, I replied to your comment. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 06:02, March 3, 2017 (UTC))

I see you tried to fix the listing issue on the category, though it may not have worked very effectively, but I left a message on the talk page regarding that. (05:03, March 4, 2017 (UTC))

I see you did some fixing up on the listing issue for the category. It seems that where anime articles are concerned, T.G. Blade Blaster (anime), T.G. Halberd Cannon (anime), and Shooting Quasar Dragon (anime) are missing form the listing, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head at the moment. I suppose eventually, we'll have to overhaul this category if and when we create the other proposed categories. How do we go about getting more people to weigh in on this discussion of which new categories to create in order to better organize things? (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 07:26, March 5, 2017 (UTC))

Alright then, thanks for fixing things. I did find it odd that Blade Blaster was listed as an Accel Synchro Monster on its OCG/TCG page, but not on its anime one, so maybe there's some oversight or mistake there? Either way, since Blade Blaster qualifies for inclusion in the category, I just manually tagged its anime page with the category. We'll probably have to change all this later on anyway if and when those proposed categories are created. How does on get about getting more users to discuss the matter of the proposed categories? It would be nice, in my opinion, if we get a decisive consensus on the matter soon, and not let it just drag out for I don't know how long. Last I checked, though, there did seem to be quite a bit of support for UltimateKuriboh's proposal. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 20:24, March 5, 2017 (UTC))

Would it be better to ask some other admins what they think of the issue? Apart from that, how long should we wait for there not to be any additional comments on the talk page before proceeding? About a week? (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 20:17, March 7, 2017 (UTC))

Yeah, I took a look at the talk page, and no one seems to be replying or have anything further to say, but I'm still willing to wait a little while longer. Not sure how long you wish to wait, though. Anyway, I think I figured out the issue with T.G. Blade Blaster. It is not listed as an Accel Synchro Monster on its anime card, which probably explains why it wasn't tagged as such. However, it has an anime summon chant that identifies it as an Accel Synchro Monster, which may explain why its TCG/OCG article has it tagged as an Accel Synchro Monster. How do we reconcile this? (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 07:04, March 12, 2017 (UTC))

Alright, thanks for reminding me. I'll get to making the category pages and the necessary edits shortly. Sorry for the late reply, I guess I was slightly busy lately and this matter sort of slipped my mind a bit. I'm still not really sure how to handle the contradiction for Blade Blaster, since the summon chant had Vizor say "Accel Synchro". I suppose one interpretation is that it's possible to Accel Synchro Summon a Synchro Monster that is not an Accel Synchro Monster (such as Goyo Guardian), by using a Tuner Synchro Monster and only non-Tuner Synchro Monsters as materials for the summon. Maybe Vizor was referring to that in the chant when he summoned Blade Blaster. Then again, a number of Crow's ARC-V Synchro Summons are technically Accel Synchro Summons since he used only Synchro Monsters as materials (albeit the Tuner Synchro Monsters used were only treated as such due to their effects), but he doesn't say "Accel Synchro" in the chant (though the term "Accel Synchro" is never used in ARC-V anyway). Also, none of the Blackwing Synchros are Accel Synchro Monsters, so I'm sort of not sure what to make of it. That interpretation I postulated might be the closest thing to making sense of it all though. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 08:25, March 17, 2017 (UTC))

Frankly, I'm not too bothered by the whole Accel Synchro thing for Blade Blaster, just that it caused some problems when listing articles in the Requires both Tuner and non-Tuner Synchro Monsters as Synchro Materials category when using Accel Synchro Monsters as a means for categorization. Thus, I figured that the best solution was simply to manually tag all pertinent card articles with the category rather than bother with the Accel Synchro thing. Anyway, that brings me to another issue, namely that I can't seem to get the Cosmic Blazar Dragon (anime), Shooting Quasar Dragon (anime), Shooting Star Dragon (anime) and T.G. Halberd Cannon (anime) articles to show up in the "Requires both Tuner and non-Tuner Synchro Monsters as Synchro Materials" category, despite manually tagging them with the category. Any assistance on that matter would be greatly appreciated. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 07:16, March 26, 2017 (UTC))

Sorry about the late reply, but thanks alot for fixing the issues with the categories and your help in suggesting how the categories should be structured. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 21:39, April 17, 2017 (UTC))

Korean Abyss Soldier

Hi Beca. This image is listed as a reprint, but we don't have an original image available. What is the difference between the two? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:48, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Golden Key. How's it going?

It was because of this. Example for "Judgment of Anubis": Original print; print when the pack was re-issued. On the former, the pattern is like the ScR pattern TCG uses; the latter is like how Japan has always used (in the TCG, those would be called as PScR (especially considering they were addressed as such officially by Konami here, at least)). Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 19:55, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Grad school is soul draining, but I'm still trying to sneak in time for Wiki editing when I can. :)

Thanks for the explanation. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 20:38, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Good luck with that!

By the way, don't know if you noticed, but I managed to find the original "Abyss Soldier": File:AbyssSoldier-ESP2-KR-ScR-UE.png. I'll see if I can find the rest from that set. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:41, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Bandai Sealdass

Hello Becasita , apologies for not replying sooner.
As soon as I get a chance I will upload a picture of the 1999 Bandai Sealdass Yugioh #00 Sticker . I have only Just moved so am still unpacking my collections , but will scan back AND front as this is the ONLY card that aknowledges the existence of itself - the other 42 do not show it on the reverse , they only list 01 - 42. best regards , --Nukleopatra01 (talk • contribs) 00:59, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

ABYR KR UE Gallery

When you updated the

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set_Card_Galleries:Abyss_Rising_(OCG-KR-UE)?oldid=3737803

Set gallery, you deleted the HGR spot at the bottom. Don't forget to re-add it. It doesn't have a picture yet, but should be there in case someone wants to add the picture. Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 21:53, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

EXP6-KR Listing error

Hi there.

I am currently updating that set gallery links (already uploaded the pictures a week ago or so) and noticed something that might need fixing (hopefully a bot can do it).

When you open a card from that set

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set_Card_Galleries:Extra_Pack:_Sword_of_Knights_(OCG-KR-1E)

and look at the Sets it is in under the Korean tab, many of them will have EP13-KR numbers, like an example:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Dragon

which in EXP6-KR002 on the set, under the Korean Sets tab it will have in red EP13-KR002 because that set doesn't exist and was surely made because the Japanese Extra packs had begun to use the year instead of the set number; something the Korean sets would do after this one.

So far I've noticed in several, but not all. So if you could check and fix that it'll be nice.

Thanks.

P.D. I don't know how to fix that or else I would do it myself while I check card by card in the galleries, which I am already doing.

P.D.2. Dunno if EXP5-KR does have a similar issue; haven't checked because I didn't uploaded any picture to it as it was already completed. But it shares the same point with EXP6 as they both have different prefixes from the JP version. EP12-JP<->EXP5-KR and EP13-JP<->EXP6-KR

Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 14:46, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Alrighty, leave it to me. Thanks for pointing this out! Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:04, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Does not require specific Xyz Materials

Well, after making all those categories for the material requirements of Extra Deck monsters, I've come to conclude that the "Requires specific Xyz Materials for its Xyz Summon" category was overly general and won't really help anyone, so I decided to make new categories to sort Xyz Monsters by more specific material requirements (archetype, Attribute, and Type, which seem to encapsulate 95% or so of monsters with specific material requirements). When I was re-sorting all the cards in the former category to the new ones, I kept it around so I had a list of monsters I knew had to be re-sorted. After the old category was emptied of all the cards, I just moved it to that new name, since I was always planning on making a category for Xyz Monsters with generic materials anyway I figured it was more convenient to move the category that way rather than inconvenience an admin by asking him to delete the old category, only to have to make a new one for the generic material Xyz Monsters. The reason the moved category is currently empty is because I didn't have time yet to put cards into it. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 20:17, March 7, 2017 (UTC))

Well, I figured that it was better to give the page a new lease on life, since it was already created. As I mentioned, getting an admin to delete it and then creating a new page seemed to me to just add an extra layer of complexity that could just be bypassed by moving the page to a new name and function. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 07:04, March 12, 2017 (UTC))

I suppose what you say is true, though I mildly wonder who would go through the page history just to see all the revisions the page as gone through, and in some cases, there can be very many revisions. But ah well, something to remember in future. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 08:25, March 17, 2017 (UTC))

Well, that's fair enough, I suppose. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 07:16, March 26, 2017 (UTC))

Timegazer Magician

What Does It Mean To Activate It As A Scale? Does It Mean To Place It In The Zone? Or Something Else? Bob1200 (talk • contribs) 23:19, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

That's exactly what it means, when you place it in the pendulum zone, it activates as if it was a spell card

Dread (talk • contribs) 23:22, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

So If I'm Understanding This Right, U Can't Place It In The Pendulum Zone Unless U Control No Monsters. They Should Really Specify That On The Card, As I Have The Real Card, Lmao. Thx For Helping. Bob1200 (talk • contribs) 23:23, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Dread, yeah, it's not an effect. Was distracted, blah...

Anyway, no, "to place" is not the same as activating. "Wisdom-Eye Magician" places cards in the Pendulum Zones; they are not activated. Activating a card does require placing it, yes.

Bob, you place it and activate it. See Activate. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 23:24, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Bob, you can place it in the Pendulum Zone through the effect of "Wisdom-Eye Magician" even if you control monsters. But you can't activate it, say, from your hand. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 23:25, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

So On Its Own, It Can't Be Put In The Pendulum Zone As A Spell If U Have A Monster Out, But U Can With The Effect Of A Monster? Am I Understanding That Right? Bob1200 (talk • contribs) 23:27, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, more or less. If a card like "Wisdom-Eye Magician", that says "place"; then you can, because you're not activating it. If a card says "activate", you can't activate it if you have monsters, because you would be activating it while you have monsters; which you can't. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 23:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Bandai Sealdass 00

Hello Becasita , I finally got to scan the Bandai Sealdass 00 card .

I had to save it as jpg as it kept going odd as png

Hope this is Helpful

--Nukleopatra01 (talk • contribs) 01:52, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Revival of Black Demons Dragon - set list error

you changed something about this set list.[[1]] but now the japanese names are gone from the set list as it is displayed in the main article.[[2]] - DK-ZERO (talk • contribs) 18:07, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, indeed. My bad. Thanks for letting me know!

By the way, to link to pages, just do like [[Revival of Black Demons Dragon]]. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 18:24, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Translated name

Why was the translated name for Stargazer and Timegazer erased. I thought it was Magician of Astromancy and Magician of Chronomancy when it was first revealed. I only did because there was no translated name.Dskid64 (talk • contribs) 19:55, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

There is no need to have a translated name for all the cards. Especially if it has the same meaning/connotation as the official name; it adds nothing new and, ultimately, isn't official. There's only a point in noting translated names if the names differ from the official name. For instance: "Infinite Dismissal" Japanese's name translates to something like "Messiah's Antlion Larva"; so it's worth pointing it out. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 20:01, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, Stargazer and Timegazer have the same connotations as the initial translations. Someone who gazes at stars or time would be performing astromancy and chronomancy, respectively. There is not always one translation. You can correctly translate some things in multiple ways. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:04, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Egyptian God cards original effect

YUDHY11 (talk • contribs)just fo clarify on http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Appearances:The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra in the OCG/TCG termonology original effect says : "your opponent cannot tribute this card". it should be written also on http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Trivia:The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra to consider that 3 egyptian God has simmilar eff : They cannot be Tributed by your opponent and Control of the cards cannot change. source : http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God YUDHY11 (talk • contribs) 15:08, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

I don't know, honestly. If you're having problems with another user regarding that matter, the best you can do is either leave them a message or start a discussion on the respective talk page. In any case, you need to try to sort it out and, unfortunately, I can't help you with that.

I do understand, though, that if the Egyptian God's page says they can't be Tributed (and has it sourced), then it would fit their possible lore, yes. But I'm not much into the matter. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:17, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

ANPR KR UE Gallery

Hi; could you please add the ANPR Korean Unlimited gallery?

I'll continue uploading my sets next week (or next month, depends on Mass effect XD ) as today I uploaded my last scanned one, which is SOVR, right after (or right before as I am going backwards) ANPR and looked at the page and it doesn't have Korean under Unlimited galleries.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ANPR

Thanks! Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 21:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there! Added. Thanks for the images! Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:02, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Noting status for cards with no set

I know that. I do it only when the set the card is in, or a card from it, is confirmed to release as a preventive thing, so that it us not left with an erroneous "unlimited" status when the english set is added until someone remembers to put the "unreleased" tag. --XBrain130™「Ｘ（エックス）ブレーン１３０」 23:29, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.

I forgot how to report a spam page, so I just marked it for deletion and such. Thanks for deleting the spam! --AvzinElkein (talk • contribs) 18:55, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

No probs! Tagging it for deletion is the way to go. You can even add |speedy=true, in those cases. You can also leave a message on Forum:Admin noticeboard. But tagging with the {{Delete}} is the way to go. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 20:29, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Also, I made a rename request: Here --AvzinElkein (talk • contribs) 17:33, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Set Lists

Are we using {{Set list}} from now on, or is it still in testing? I see you and X-Metaman converting several lists to the format.PhotonLegion95 (talk • contribs) 21:01, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Spent a little time messing around with both. The list is fine, would be better if there was a way to remove the brackets from un filled sections so we can have the full list with blank spaces up. Saying that, this version is certainly much easier to deal with not having all spaces up than the previous.

The Gallery one is fine for sets. Just had to tinker with which fields needs to be in which part of the gallery, so I've got working templates for core sets and Collector's Pack (OCG side). One issue I'm having is with a cards individual gallery page, though I'm not sure it was designed for them. I've made an example in my practice space. It doesn't seem to recognise Proxy Images and defaults to common (this is with either "Official Proxy" or "OP" used as the rarity field). Not sure if anything can be done about that or not. PhotonLegion95 (talk • contribs) 00:14, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

How to change JPG to PNG?

Hi.

I want to upload a better picture for this card:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/File:StardustDragon-TDGS-KR-UtR-UE.jpg

But it is a JPG and mine is a PNG, so, how do I change the link so that it is a PNG, or do I simply upload my picture on top and it would change to PNG automatically?

So far it is the only of this type I've found in my replacement bids; but in case I run with more in the future if I decide to upgrade those 100KB pics I might need to know how to turn the url intro a PNG.

Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 16:15, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there.

You just need to open the queue. Then click on "Add manually". Then add "StardustDragon-TDGS-KR-UtR-UE.jpg" on the "Old file name:" field (note that you don't need to add "File:" before the name) and "StardustDragon-TDGS-KR-UtR-UE.png" on the "New file name" field. "Add to the queue". You can load multiple image links this way. When you're ready, press "Execute". After that, don't forget to tag the old images (the JPG ones) with {{Delete}}. This only updates the links; it doesn't move files; it's not possible to convert a JPG image into a PNG one like that. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 16:33, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Done

Thanks for the step by step explanation. All links are now directed to the newly uploaded PNG one and JPG has been tagged for deletion.

Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 17:03, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

DUSA Ultra Parallel, new rarity?

Might want to look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDI0QEILDm4

Don't know if it is just an optical illusion, but the cards don't look "normal" Ultra, the foil has Parallel bars that shine through it. Might want to consult your sources.

Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 16:22, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

The official site says "all cards in the set use an all-new, all-different Ultra Rare technology". So it seems they revamped Ultra Rares with this set. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:13, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Ultra 2.0. So, since the site calls them the new Ultra technology I guess they will still be named Ultra. Maybe just add to the DUSA page that information on the first paragraph, that this set introduced the new Ultra standard, or something. Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 17:40, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yep, it seems they are still Ultra Rares. This has happened before with Gold Rares, for instance.

That is a good idea. Feel free to point it there. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:51, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Update Semantic again

• Concept:Main Deck monsters seems to be not working correctly as seen on Card Tips:R-Genex Turbo. The Tuner Monster are missing from that.
• Card Tips:Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Bane i did try to remove the tuners from the list with [[Type3::!Tuner]] but i don't know if thats the right way. Also currently with {{card query}} it seems it is not possible to filter for Level and still display it, can there be a flag to still do that?

--hanmac (talk • contribs) 20:13, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, the first should be fixed. A bunch of null edits seems to have resulted.

The second... I'm not being able to remove "Phonon" from there, for some reason. Would be expecting [[Secondary type::!Tuner monster]] to work, but no. I'll look into this later and I'll also request some help. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:28, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Hum, for some reason, it's working now, the query regarding "Phonon". Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:32, March 27, 2017 (UTC)