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| [[Magical Scientist]]
 
| [[Magical Scientist]]
| Pulls a Fusion Monster directly from the Extra Deck for only 1000 LP. Was initially hit due to its role in the [[Catapult Turtle]] FTK, but Turtle's errata prevented that. Can also be used to quickly Summon multiple Link and Xyz monsters by using the monsters it Summons as material. LP cost can be circumvented with [[DNA Surgery]] (calling [[Psychic]]) combined with [[Brain Research Lab]] or [[Telekinetic Charging Cell]], removing whatever limitation the card had and resulting in virtually unbreakable boards filled with Extra Deck powerhouses. Can be searched by [[Where Arf Thou?]] and some of the [[Prophecy]]/[[Spellbook]] cards.
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| Pulls a Fusion Monster directly from the Extra Deck for only 1000 LP. Was initially hit due to its role in the [[Catapult Turtle]] FTK, but Turtle's errata prevented that. Can also be used to quickly Summon multiple Link and Xyz monsters by using the monsters it Summons as material, though this is ultimately slower due to Master Rule 4. LP cost can be circumvented with [[DNA Surgery]] (calling [[Psychic]]) combined with [[Brain Research Lab]] or [[Telekinetic Charging Cell]], removing whatever limitation the card had and resulting in virtually unbreakable boards filled with Extra Deck powerhouses. Can be searched by [[Where Arf Thou?]] and some of the [[Prophecy]]/[[Spellbook]] cards.
 
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| [[Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin]]
 
| [[Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin]]
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| [[Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis]]
 
| [[Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis]]
| Part of an FTK loop involving [[Topologic Bomber Dragon]] where, if you could dump enough Plants into the Graveyard, you could revive it again and again, and have it be destroyed again and again to inflict damage to your opponent.
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| Part of an FTK loop involving [[Topologic Bomber Dragon]] where, if you could dump enough Plants into the Graveyard (using cards such as [[Lonefire Blossom]] and [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]], both limited in the OCG), you could revive it again and again, and have it be destroyed again and again to inflict damage to your opponent.
 
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| [[Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz]]
 
| [[Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz]]
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| [[Tellarknight Ptolemaeus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Ptolemaeus</font>]]
 
| [[Tellarknight Ptolemaeus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Ptolemaeus</font>]]
| <span style="color: white"> Generic Rank 4 Xyz Monster that can be made with up to 5 Level 4 monsters, and can Summon a Rank 5 Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck by detaching 3 materials and using itself as Xyz Material (and is chainable). Mainly Forbidden for being able to Summon strong monsters that shouldn't Normally be possible for most Decks, such as [[Constellar Pleiades|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Pleiades</font>]], [[Cyber Dragon Nova|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Nova</font>]] (which is then used to Summon [[Cyber Dragon Infinity|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Infinity</font>]]), and [[Outer Entity Azzathoth|<font color="99CCFF">Outer Entity Azzathoth</font>]]. [[Tellarknight Vatlamyus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Vatlamyus</font>]] was designed to replace this card. </span>
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| <span style="color: white"> Generic Rank 4 Xyz Monster that can be made with up to 5 Level 4 monsters, and can Summon a Rank 5 Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck by detaching 3 materials and using itself as Xyz Material (and is chainable). Mainly Forbidden for being able to Summon strong monsters that shouldn't normally be possible for most Decks, such as [[Constellar Pleiades|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Pleiades</font>]], [[Cyber Dragon Nova|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Nova</font>]] (which is then used to Summon [[Cyber Dragon Infinity|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Infinity</font>]]), and [[Outer Entity Azzathoth|<font color="99CCFF">Outer Entity Azzathoth</font>]]. [[Tellarknight Vatlamyus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Vatlamyus</font>]] was designed to replace this card. </span>
 
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| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
 
| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
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| [[Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force]]
 
| [[Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force]]
| Forbidden due to abuse in quickly Summoning [[Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL]]. As it can return itself to the hand from the GY, it can be easily sent to the Graveyard by effects like [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal]] (Limited in the TCG) and [[Foolish Burial Goods]], then returned to the hand by Special Summoning a Rank 5 or higher monster (easily accomplished by using Beatrice as material to Xyz Summon [[Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger]]). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Forbidden due to abuse in quickly Summoning [[Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL]] to lock down the opponent. As it can return itself to the hand from the GY, it can be easily sent to the Graveyard by effects like [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal]] (Limited in the TCG) and [[Foolish Burial Goods]], then returned to the hand by Special Summoning a Rank 5 or higher monster (easily accomplished by using Beatrice as material to Xyz Summon [[Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger]]). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Snatch Steal]]
 
| [[Snatch Steal]]
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| [[Blackwing - Steam the Cloak]]
 
| [[Blackwing - Steam the Cloak]]
| Summons a Token when it leaves the field, can be revived quickly after that for one Tribute, and used in Link Summoning combos (via cards such as [[Crystron Needlefiber]]). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Summons a Token when it leaves the field, can be revived quickly after that for one Tribute, and used in Link Summoning combos (via cards such as [[Crystron Needlefiber]]) to create easy card advantage. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird]]
 
| [[Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird]]
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| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
 
| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
| Quickly introduces 2 Plant monsters into play, with the extra monster on the field allowing for a quick 1-card Fusion/Xyz/Link Summon. Dumps whatever monster you want in the Graveyard as cost. Opening move of the FTK involving [[Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis]] (Forbidden). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Quickly introduces 2 Plant monsters into play, with the extra monster on the field allowing for a quick 1-card Fusion/Xyz/Link Summon. Dumps whatever monster you want in the Graveyard as cost. Opening move of the FTK involving [[Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis]] (Forbidden). Can also bring out [[Predaplant Darlingtonia Cobra]], which searches [[Instant Fusion]] and [[Brilliant Fusion]], setting up other FTKs. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[PSY-Framelord Omega]]
 
| [[PSY-Framelord Omega]]
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| [[Aleister the Invoker]]
 
| [[Aleister the Invoker]]
| Easily searched by "[[Magical Meltdown]]" (which is searchable by "[[Terraforming]]", Limited in the OCG), and searches "[[Invocation]]" upon its Summon, which can Fusion Summon an "Invoked" Fusion Monster by using this card and monsters in either player's Graveyard. When used in combination with the "[[Windwitch]]" engine (see "[[Windwitch - Ice Bell]]"), this can result in a minimum field of "[[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]]" and "[[Invoked Raidjin]]", and has high versatility given the range of "[[Invoked]]" Fusion Monsters. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Easily searched by [[Magical Meltdown]] (which is searchable by [[Terraforming]], Limited in the OCG), and searches [[Invocation]] upon its Summon, which can Fusion Summon an "Invoked" Fusion Monster by using this card and monsters in either player's Graveyard. When used in combination with the [[Windwitch]] engine (see [[Windwitch - Ice Bell]]), this can result in a minimum field of [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Invoked Raidjin]], and has high versatility given the range of [[Invoked]] Fusion Monsters. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]
 
| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]

Revision as of 21:05, 5 June 2018


List

Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

In case someone somehow missed it. Click "Show" on the right side of the bar.
This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.
This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.
Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).
And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.
See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

69.124.5.7 (talk) 15:57, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

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