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| [[Grinder Golem]]
 
| [[Grinder Golem]]
| A powerful asset to Link-spamming decks, as the Tokens it summons (this is not restricted to once per turn at all, and without any cost except your opponent having a free Main Monster Zone) can help to bring out a Link 3 or 4 far extremely quickly, including [[Firewall Dragon]] (also Limited) and [[Saryuja Skull Dread]] with all of its effects. Its disadvantage of Summoning it to your opponent's field can be worked around either with removal or bouncing it back to the hand (for example, with the aforementioned Firewall Dragon's effect), allowing it to be reused again. This card is Limited in the OCG.
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| A powerful asset to Link-spamming decks, as the Tokens it summons (this is not restricted to once per turn at all, and without any cost except your opponent having a free Main Monster Zone) can help to bring out a Link 3 or 4 far extremely quickly, including [[Firewall Dragon]] (also Forbidden) and [[Saryuja Skull Dread]] with all of its effects. Its disadvantage of Summoning it to your opponent's field can be worked around either with removal or bouncing it back to the hand (for example, with the aforementioned Firewall Dragon's effect), allowing it to be reused again. This card is Limited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Knightmare Goblin|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare Goblin</font>]]
 
| [[Knightmare Goblin|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare Goblin</font>]]
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| [[Armageddon Knight]]
 
| [[Armageddon Knight]]
| Sends ANY DARK monster from your Deck to the Graveyard whenever it's Summoned. Can lead to crazy power-plays [[Destiny HERO - Malicious|just]] [[Necro Gardna|by]] [[Zombie|simply]] [[Inzektor|dumping]] [[Stygian Street Patrol|one]] [[Infernity Archfiend|certain]] [[Wight|monster]] and can trigger monster effects like [[Archfiend Heiress]], [[Elemental HERO Shadow Mist]] and all the [[Shaddoll]] monsters. Can be searched by [[Reinforcement of the Army]], [[Mystic Tomato]], and [[Summoner Monk]]. Saw heavy use as a "1-card FTK" in late 2018, whereby this card dumping Malicious (Semi-Limited in the TCG) quickly summoned [[Isolde, Two Tales of the Noble Knights]], which soon led to [[Firewall Dragon]] (Forbidden in the TCG and Limited in the OCG). This card is unlimited in the OCG.
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| Sends ANY DARK monster from your Deck to the Graveyard whenever it's Summoned. Can lead to crazy power-plays [[Destiny HERO - Malicious|just]] [[Necro Gardna|by]] [[Zombie|simply]] [[Inzektor|dumping]] [[Stygian Street Patrol|one]] [[Infernity Archfiend|certain]] [[Wight|monster]] and can trigger monster effects like [[Archfiend Heiress]], [[Elemental HERO Shadow Mist]] and all the [[Shaddoll]] monsters. Can be searched by [[Reinforcement of the Army]], [[Mystic Tomato]], and [[Summoner Monk]]. Saw heavy use as a "1-card FTK" in late 2018, whereby this card dumping Malicious (Semi-Limited in the TCG) quickly summoned [[Isolde, Two Tales of the Noble Knights]], which soon led to [[Firewall Dragon]] (Forbidden). This card is unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Babycerasaurus]]
 
| [[Babycerasaurus]]
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| [[Scapegoat]]
 
| [[Scapegoat]]
| Originally placed on the list as it was an effective stall tool in the early competitive game, but the rise of widespread [[piercing]] damage limited that utility. Was part of the [[Goat Control]] Deck, but now [[Metamorphosis]] has been forbidden. Allows for easy Synchro Summons and ''especially'' Link Summons, where it can produce a [[Firewall Dragon]] (Limited) from just 1 card. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
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| Originally placed on the list as it was an effective stall tool in the early competitive game, but the rise of widespread [[piercing]] damage limited that utility. Was part of the [[Goat Control]] Deck, but now [[Metamorphosis]] has been forbidden. Allows for easy Synchro Summons and ''especially'' Link Summons, where it can produce a [[Firewall Dragon]] (Forbidden) from just 1 card. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Set Rotation]]
 
| [[Set Rotation]]
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| [[A-Assault Core]]
 
| [[A-Assault Core]]
| Superb card in ABCs, and can also work in other decks that use LIGHT Machines, like [[Cyber Dragon (archetype)|Cyber Dragon]]s. Can be equipped directly from the Deck with [[Union Hangar]]. Can be used to give immunity to powerful monsters like [[ABC-Dragon Buster]]. Returns another Union monster from your Graveyard to your hand when it leaves the field, including when used as a material, and including other copies of itself, resulting in a loop when combined with Firewall Dragon (Limited in the OCG and Forbidden in the TCG) and [[Cannon Soldier]] (Forbidden in the OCG) that allowed for an OTK. Removed from the TCG list after Firewall Dragon's Forbidding.
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| Superb card in ABCs, and can also work in other decks that use LIGHT Machines, like [[Cyber Dragon (archetype)|Cyber Dragon]]s. Can be equipped directly from the Deck with [[Union Hangar]]. Can be used to give immunity to powerful monsters like [[ABC-Dragon Buster]]. Returns another Union monster from your Graveyard to your hand when it leaves the field, including when used as a material, and including other copies of itself, resulting in a loop when combined with Firewall Dragon (Forbidden) and [[Cannon Soldier]] (Forbidden in the OCG) that allowed for an OTK. Removed from the TCG list after Firewall Dragon's Forbidding.
 
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| [[Abyss Soldier]]
 
| [[Abyss Soldier]]
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| [[Grandsoil the Elemental Lord]]
 
| [[Grandsoil the Elemental Lord]]
| Uniquely among "[[Elemental Lord]]" cards, its activated effect was originally not a hard once-per-turn, which allowed for infinite loops. For example: with the proper setup, [[Firewall Dragon]] (now Limited) could return this card to the hand, then be used to Special Summon another Firewall Dragon. This card can then Special Summon itself, and revive the spent Firewall Dragon, which also resets its bounce effect. It could also be looped with cards such as [[Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier]] (Limited) and Mist Valley Shaman. This card has since been errata'd to add this restriction.
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| Uniquely among "[[Elemental Lord]]" cards, its activated effect was originally not a hard once-per-turn, which allowed for infinite loops. For example: with the proper setup, [[Firewall Dragon]] (now Forbidden) could return this card to the hand, then be used to Special Summon another Firewall Dragon. This card can then Special Summon itself, and revive the spent Firewall Dragon, which also resets its bounce effect. It could also be looped with cards such as [[Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier]] (Limited) and Mist Valley Shaman. This card has since been errata'd to add this restriction.
 
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| [[Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest]]
 
| [[Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest]]

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Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

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This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.
This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.
Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).
And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.
See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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