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| [[Eclipse Wyvern]]
 
| [[Eclipse Wyvern]]
| Banishes a Level 7 or higher Dragon from the Deck when sent to the Graveyard, and recovers that monster when banished. No once-per-turn restriction on either effect. Banished monster (and Wyvern itself) can be recovered with [[Guardragon Pisty]]. Key to [[Guardragon]] Decks as well as some [[Thunder Dragon (archetype)|Thunder Dragon]] builds. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Banishes a Level 7 or higher Dragon from the Deck when sent to the Graveyard, and recovers that monster when banished. No once-per-turn restriction on either effect. Banished monster (and Wyvern itself) can be recovered with [[Guardragon Pisty]]. Key to [[Guardragon]] Decks. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
 
| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
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| [[M-X-Saber Invoker|<font color="#99CCFF">M-X-Saber Invoker</font>]]
 
| [[M-X-Saber Invoker|<font color="#99CCFF">M-X-Saber Invoker</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">Generic Xyz Materials, and brings out more quick and easy materials with its effect. Summoning it is made much easier with cards such as [[Speedroid Terrortop|<font color=#99CCFF>Speedroid Terrortop</font>]] (Limited in the TCG), [[Psychic Wheeleder|<font color=#99CCFF>Psychic Wheeleder</font>]]/[[Psychic Tracker|<font color=#99CCFF>Tracker</font>]], [[Marauding Captain|<font color=#99CCFF>Marauding Captain</font>]]... Abused in both [[Zoodiac|<font color="#99ccff">Zoodiac</font>]] and [[Gouki|<font color="#99CCFF">Gouki</font>]]/[[Knightmare|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare</font>]] Decks, as their monsters are EARTH Beast-Warriors or Warriors, to generate Xyz or Link Material.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">Generic Xyz Materials, and brings out more quick and easy materials with its effect. Summoning it is made much easier with cards such as [[Speedroid Terrortop|<font color=#99CCFF>Speedroid Terrortop</font>]] (Limited in the TCG), [[Psychic Wheeleder|<font color=#99CCFF>Psychic Wheeleder</font>]]/[[Psychic Tracker|<font color=#99CCFF>Tracker</font>]], [[Marauding Captain|<font color=#99CCFF>Marauding Captain</font>]]... Abused in both [[Zoodiac|<font color="#99ccff">Zoodiac</font>]] and [[Gouki|<font color="#99CCFF">Gouki</font>]]/[[Knightmare|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare</font>]] Decks, as their monsters are EARTH Beast-Warriors or Warriors, to generate Xyz or Link Material. Can search [[Amazoness Archer|<font color="#99CCFF">Amazoness Archer</font>]] to make an easier FTK.</span>
 
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| [[Magical Scientist]]
 
| [[Magical Scientist]]
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| [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon</font>]]
 
| [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">When it is Xyz Summoned, it dumps whatever Dragon monsters you want in the Graveyard and forces your opponent to banish 3 monsters from their Deck. Fairly easy to bring out despite being the awkward Rank 9, as it can be overlaid on any Rank 8 Galaxy-Eyes. Can cause OTKs with [[Dragon Ruler|<font color="#99CCFF">Dragon Rulers</font>]]. Can set up a lockdown by dumping [[Amorphage Goliath|<font color="#99CCFF">Amorphage Goliath</font>]] and [[Arkbrave Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Arkbrave Dragon</font>]]. Banned for its role in an FTK involving [[Gandora-X the Dragon of Demolition|<font color="#99CCFF">Gandora-X the Dragon of Demolition</font>]]; this was thought of as OCG-only (since Gandora-X's damage depends on current ATK in that format), but an alternate combo was found that involved halving the opponent's LP first, and then Gandora-X would destroy this card. This resulted in its TCG ban.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">When it is Xyz Summoned, it dumps whatever Dragon monsters you want in the Graveyard and forces your opponent to banish 3 monsters from their Deck. Fairly easy to bring out despite being the awkward Rank 9, as it can be overlaid on any Rank 8 Galaxy-Eyes. Can cause OTKs with [[Dragon Ruler|<font color="#99CCFF">Dragon Rulers</font>]]. Can set up an Extra Deck lockdown by dumping [[Amorphage Goliath|<font color="#99CCFF">Amorphage Goliath</font>]] and using it alongside [[Arkbrave Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Arkbrave Dragon</font>]]. Banned for its role in an FTK involving [[Gandora-X the Dragon of Demolition|<font color="#99CCFF">Gandora-X the Dragon of Demolition</font>]]; this was thought of as OCG-only (since Gandora-X's damage depends on current ATK in that format), but an alternate combo was found that involved halving the opponent's LP first, and then Gandora-X would destroy this card. This resulted in its TCG ban.</span>
 
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| [[Performage Plushfire]]
 
| [[Performage Plushfire]]
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| [[Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon]]
 
| [[Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon]]
| Absurdly easy to Summon, with high ATK, and costless +1. Splashable in any Dragon Deck. Particularly problematic when used with [[Inferno Reckless Summon]] in Hieratics (which will Summon it with 0 ATK and make it IRS-legal.) Needed to be hit because most Dragon Decks were topping. Can be searched easily with [[Eclipse Wyvern]]. Being easily Summoned and Level 10, it makes it easy to Xyz Summon high Rank monsters such as [[Number 81: Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Super Dora]] and the other Rank 10 [[Train]]s. Finally Forbidden in the OCG after abuse in [[Guardragon]]s, which pretty much sealed its fate. This card is Limited in the TCG.
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| Absurdly easy to Summon, with high ATK, and costless +1. Splashable in any Dragon Deck. Particularly problematic when used with [[Inferno Reckless Summon]] in Hieratics (which will Summon it with 0 ATK and make it IRS-legal.) Needed to be hit because most Dragon Decks were topping. Can be searched easily with [[Eclipse Wyvern]]. Being easily Summoned and Level 10, it makes it easy to Xyz Summon high Rank monsters such as [[Number 81: Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Super Dora]] and the other Rank 10 [[Railway|Train]]s. Finally Forbidden in the OCG after abuse in [[Guardragon]]s, which pretty much sealed its fate. This card is Limited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Samsara Lotus]]
 
| [[Samsara Lotus]]
| No once-per-turn restriction on its Summon. Used in another [[Topologic Bomber Dragon]] FTK, where [[Trickstar Black Catbat]] (which inflicts 200 damage to the opponent each time a monster it point to is destroyed) would be co-linked with [[Knightmare Cerberus]] would be co-lnked (making both immune to Topologic), and Lotus revived the other zone pointed by Black Catbat and destroyed repeatedly, burning the other player to death. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| No once-per-turn restriction on its Summon. Used in another [[Topologic Bomber Dragon]] FTK, where [[Trickstar Black Catbat]] (which inflicts 200 damage to the opponent each time a monster it point to is destroyed) would be co-linked with [[Knightmare Cerberus]] (making both immune to Topologic), and Lotus revived to the other zone pointed by Black Catbat and destroyed repeatedly, burning the other player to death. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Substitoad]]
 
| [[Substitoad]]
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| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
 
| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
| High-Level monster with an effect similar to Phantom of Chaos (now Unlimited; see below). Was Forbidden because of an OTK with "[[Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale]]" (which is easily Summoned by "Instant Fusion"), where this card copies Nightingale's effect, which gives it 6000 ATK (5000 with its effect + 1000 from "Nightingale" itself), makes it unaffected by any other card effect, and enables it to inflict 5000 damage to your opponent once per turn, guaranteeing an OTK if it survives your opponent's turn. Differently from most other effect-copying monsters, Neptune does so permanently, making it particularly difficult to remove due to said immuniy. Nothing that [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] or [[Kaiju|Kaijus]] can't handle, but it's still terrifying to go up against otherwise. Can also be searched by [[King of the Feral Imps]].
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| High-Level monster with an effect similar to Phantom of Chaos (now Unlimited; see below). Was Forbidden because of an OTK with "[[Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale]]" (which is easily Summoned by "Instant Fusion"), where this card copies Nightingale's effect, which gives it 6000 ATK (5000 with its effect + 1000 from "Nightingale" itself), makes it unaffected by any other card effect, and enables it to inflict 5000 damage to your opponent once per turn, guaranteeing an OTK if it survives your opponent's turn. Differently from most other effect-copying monsters, Neptune does so permanently, making it particularly difficult to remove due to said immunity. Nothing that [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon|Crystal Wing]] or [[Kaiju]]s can't handle, but it's still terrifying to go up against otherwise. Can also be searched by [[King of the Feral Imps]].
 
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| [[Topologic Gumblar Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Topologic Gumblar Dragon</font>]]
 
| [[Topologic Gumblar Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Topologic Gumblar Dragon</font>]]
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| [[Chicken Game]]
 
| [[Chicken Game]]
| Generic draw Spell that can be searched by [[Terraforming]] (Limited in the OCG) and reused by [[Pseudo Space]], enabling severe [[Deck thinning]] for virtually any Deck. Mainly Forbidden due to abuse in various FTK Decks (including one with [[Monarch]]s) that used this card and Upstart Goblin (below) to separate your LP from your opponent's enough to FTK using [[Life Equalizer]] (Forbidden in the OCG), [[Blasting the Ruins]], or [[Magical Explosion]] (Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Generic draw Spell that can be searched by [[Terraforming]] or [[Metaverse]] (both Limited) and reused by [[Pseudo Space]], enabling severe [[Deck thinning]] for virtually any Deck. Mainly Forbidden due to abuse in various FTK Decks (including one with [[Monarch]]s) that used this card and Upstart Goblin (below) to separate your LP from your opponent's enough to FTK using [[Life Equalizer]] (Forbidden in the OCG), [[Blasting the Ruins]], or [[Magical Explosion]] (Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Cold Wave]]
 
| [[Cold Wave]]
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| [[Last Will]]
 
| [[Last Will]]
| Universal searcher. Mainly was Forbidden for making the extremely fast [[Card Tips:Catapult Turtle|Turtle FTK]]; however, Catapult Turtle's errata now makes its effect once per turn. While this card can only Special Summon 1 monster with its effect, it could set up OTKs with [[Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End]] (although no anymore due to its erratum) or [[Black Rose Dragon]]. After activation, its effect can be used any time that turn, even during the Battle Phase.
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| Universal searcher. Mainly was Forbidden for making the extremely fast [[Card Tips:Catapult Turtle|Turtle FTK]]; however, Catapult Turtle's errata now makes its effect once per turn. While this card can only Special Summon 1 monster with its effect, it could set up OTKs with [[Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End]] (although no longer, due to its erratum) or [[Black Rose Dragon]]. After activation, its effect can be used any time that turn, even during the Battle Phase.
 
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| [[Mass Driver]]
 
| [[Mass Driver]]
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| [[The Phantom Knights' Rank-Up-Magic Launch]]
 
| [[The Phantom Knights' Rank-Up-Magic Launch]]
| Quick-Play "[[Rank-Up-Magic]]" that Ranks-Up any DARK Xyz with no materials into any DARK Xyz that is 1 Rank higher. Can Summon lockdown monsters like [[D/D/D Duo-Dawn King Kali Yuga]], [[True King of All Calamities]], or [[Outer Entity Azathot]] to prevent the opponent from activating effects on their own turn. "Azathot" is easily Summoned with [[Time Thief Winder]], which can banish itself from the field and then return with no materials. Unlike most Rank-Up-Magics, this card is easily searched and/or recovered. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Quick-Play "[[Rank-Up-Magic]]" that Ranks-Up any DARK Xyz with no materials into any DARK Xyz that is 1 Rank higher. Can Summon lockdown monsters like [[D/D/D Duo-Dawn King Kali Yuga]], [[True King of All Calamities]], or [[Outer Entity Azathot]] to prevent the opponent from activating effects on their own turn. "Azathot" is easily Summoned with [[Time Thief Redoer]], which can banish itself from the field and then return with no materials. Unlike most Rank-Up-Magics, this card is easily searched and/or recovered. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Zoodiac Barrage]]
 
| [[Zoodiac Barrage]]
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| [[Black Dragon Collapserpent]]
 
| [[Black Dragon Collapserpent]]
| rowspan="2" | A pair of monsters with powerful complementary effects. Can be Special Summoned by banishing the other from the Graveyard, and searches the other when sent to the Graveyard; notably, there is no restriction on the latter effect. Having either of these pretty much guarantees a full [[Guardragon]] combo. At 1 each, the consistency is far more limited. These cards are Unlimited in the OCG.
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| rowspan="2" | A pair of monsters with powerful complementary effects. Can be Special Summoned by banishing a LIGHT/DARK monster respectively (usually the other) from the Graveyard, and searches the other when sent to the Graveyard; notably, there is no restriction on the latter effect. Having either of these pretty much guarantees a full [[Guardragon]] combo. Also useful in [[Thunder Dragon (archetype)|Thunder Dragon]] decks, as they use primarily LIGHT and DARK monsters. At 1 each, the consistency is far more limited. These cards are Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[White Dragon Wyverburster]]
 
| [[White Dragon Wyverburster]]
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| [[Chronograph Sorcerer]]
 
| [[Chronograph Sorcerer]]
| First monster effect is easy to trigger by destroying your own cards (see: [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]]), and brings out 2 monsters to do what you wish with. Pendulum Effect effectively brings out a new Link Material from the Deck, and can allow another Chronograph to activate its effect too. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| First monster effect is easy to trigger by destroying your own cards (see: [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]]), and brings out 2 monsters to do what you wish with without using the Pendulum Summon. Pendulum Effect effectively brings out a new Link Material from the Deck, and can allow another Chronograph to activate its effect too. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]]
 
| [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]]
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| [[Exodia the Forbidden One]]
 
| [[Exodia the Forbidden One]]
| rowspan="5" | [[Exodia OTK|Instant win card]]. You don't need to be lucky to get it. With more and more stall and draw cards being released, these will stay Limited. <br>Although unlikely, if 1 of the pieces becomes Forbidden, then the other 4 can be Unlimited.
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| rowspan="5" | [[Exodia OTK|Instant win card]]. You don't need to be lucky to get it. With more and more stall and draw cards being released, these will stay Limited. The only way these could possibly be Unlimited is if one of their number were Forbidden, though this is unlikely.
 
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| [[Left Arm of the Forbidden One]]
 
| [[Left Arm of the Forbidden One]]
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| [[Lady Debug]]
 
| [[Lady Debug]]
| Searches any Level 3 or lower Cyberse when Normal or Special Summoned. Used in [[Salamangreat]]s, where [[Salamangreat Gazelle|Gazelle]] (also Limited) is both a valid target for its search effect as well as Link Material for [[Salamangreat Balelynx|Balelynx]], allowing Gazelle to Special Summon itself. Hit to limit the consistency of the Deck.
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| Searches any Level 3 or lower Cyberse when Normal or Special Summoned. Used in [[Salamangreat]]s as a combo starter, as [[Salamangreat Gazelle|Gazelle]] (also Limited) is a valid target for its search. Hit to limit the consistency of the Deck.
 
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| [[Lonefire Blossom]]
 
| [[Lonefire Blossom]]
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| [[Phantom Skyblaster]]
 
| [[Phantom Skyblaster]]
| Special Summons [[Skyblaster Token]]s when Normal or Flip Summoned up to the number of monsters you control. An instant Link-2 upon Normal Summoning, and potentially a Link-3 or -4 if you control another monster when this card is Normal Summoned. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Special Summons [[Skyblaster Token]]s when Normal or Flip Summoned up to the number of monsters you control. An instant Link-2 upon Normal Summoning, and potentially a Link-3 or -4 if you control another monster when this card is Normal Summoned. Also has a burn effect, which can be useful if trying to run down the clock. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
 
| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
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| [[Tour Guide From the Underworld]]
 
| [[Tour Guide From the Underworld]]
| Good Searcher. Quickly Summons Rank 3 Xyz Monsters by Summoning another copy of itself or another Level 3 Fiend monster. Good monsters it was used to quickly Summon include [[Leviair the Sea Dragon]], [[Number 17: Leviathan Dragon]], [[Wind-Up Zenmaines]], and [[Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction]]. It saw little use after [[Sangan]], this card's main target, got Forbidden, so it came off the list, but was put back on the list later due to abuse in the [[Burning Abyss]] archetype in the TCG, where it can Summon almost any Burning Abyss monster from your Deck to easily make [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss]].
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| Good searcher. Quickly Summons Rank 3 Xyz Monsters by Summoning another copy of itself or another Level 3 Fiend monster. Good monsters it was used to quickly Summon include [[Leviair the Sea Dragon]], [[Number 17: Leviathan Dragon]], [[Wind-Up Zenmaines]], and [[Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction]]. It saw little use after [[Sangan]], this card's main target, got Forbidden, so it came off the list, but was put back on the list later due to abuse in the [[Burning Abyss]] archetype in the TCG, where it can Summon almost any Burning Abyss monster from your Deck to easily make [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss]].
 
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| [[Zoodiac Ratpier]]
 
| [[Zoodiac Ratpier]]
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| [[Set Rotation]]
 
| [[Set Rotation]]
| Likely hit due to a loophole involving Field Spells such as "[[Gateway to Chaos]]" and "[[Oracle of Zefra]]", whose archetype-locked search-on-activation effecs are mandatory, therefore preventing their activation in the very likely case the opponent has nothing to search. This means it secures your Field Spell AND locks your opponent's for free, with the only way out for them being using backrow self-removal, which can be a hard hit to recover for some Decks whose Field Spells are vital in getting them going.
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| Likely hit due to a loophole involving Field Spells such as [[Gateway to Chaos]] and [[Oracle of Zefra]], whose archetype-locked search-on-activation effecs are mandatory, therefore preventing their activation in the very likely case the opponent has nothing to search. This means it secures your Field Spell AND locks your opponent's for free, with the only way out for them being using backrow self-removal, which can be a hard hit to recover for some Decks whose Field Spells are vital in getting them going.
 
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| [[Sky Striker Mecha - Hornet Drones]]
 
| [[Sky Striker Mecha - Hornet Drones]]
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| [[Metaverse]]
 
| [[Metaverse]]
| Activates a Field Spell directly from the Deck. Grants the user the ability to activate problematic Field Spells like [[Mystic Mine]] on their opponent's turn after having set up their own combo, adversely affecting their opponent's strategy.
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| Activates a Field Spell directly from the Deck. Grants the user the ability to activate problematic Field Spells like [[Future Visions]] or [[Mystic Mine]] on their opponent's turn after having set up their own combo, adversely affecting their opponent's strategy.
 
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| [[Skill Drain]]
 
| [[Skill Drain]]
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| [[Danger! Nessie!]]
 
| [[Danger! Nessie!]]
| rowspan="3" | An archetype of monsters that give off powerful effects when discarded by any means, not just by their own gimmick. This lead them to become a highly splashable engine in several Decks as opposed to a Deck in their own right. Their effects are largely the same, just with different results - Nessie searches another Danger!, Jackalope Special Summons another Danger from the Deck, and Tsuchinoko Special Summons itself immediately on discard. This allows the archetype to generate Link Material particularly quickly. These cards are not yet released in the OCG.
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| rowspan="3" | An archetype of monsters that give off powerful effects when discarded by any means, not just by their own gimmick. This lead them to become a highly splashable engine in several Decks as opposed to a Deck in their own right. Their effects are largely the same, just with different results - Nessie searches another Danger!, Jackalope Special Summons another Danger! from the Deck, and Tsuchinoko Special Summons itself immediately on discard. This allows the archetype to generate Link Material particularly quickly. These cards are not yet released in the OCG.
 
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| [[Danger!? Jackalope?]]
 
| [[Danger!? Jackalope?]]
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| [[Fossil Dig]]
 
| [[Fossil Dig]]
| Searches a large number of [[Dinosaur]] monsters, such as "[[Babycerasaurus]]", "[[Miscellaneousaurus]]" (which can be used as a handtrap), "[[Petiteranodon]]" (both it and "Babycerasaurus" can be destroyed in the hand by the effect of "[[True King Lithosagym, the Disaster]]" {Foridden in the TCG} for easy advantage), and "[[Souleating Oviraptor]]", which can search any Dinosaurs this card cannot. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Searches a large number of [[Dinosaur]] monsters, such as [[Babycerasaurus]], [[Miscellaneousaurus]] (which can be used as a handtrap), [[Petiteranodon]] (both it and "Babycerasaurus" can be destroyed in the hand by the effect of [[True King Lithosagym, the Disaster]] {Foridden in the TCG} for easy advantage), and [[Souleating Oviraptor]], which can search any Dinosaurs this card cannot. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Limiter Removal]]
 
| [[Limiter Removal]]
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| [[Super Polymerization]]
 
| [[Super Polymerization]]
| Powerful, chainable Quick-Play Spell Card that cannot be chained to. Can fuse monsters from either player's side of the field. Mainly abused in HEROes (to Fusion Summon [[Elemental HERO Absolute Zero|Absolute Zero]], [[Elemental HERO Nova Master|Nova Master]], [[Elemental HERO Gaia|Gaia]], [[Elemental HERO Great Tornado|Great Tornado]], [[Elemental HERO The Shining|The Shining]], and [[Elemental HERO Escuridao|Escuridao]]), Zombies (for [[Dragonecro Nethersoul Dragon]] while [[Zombie World]] is on the field), and [[Shaddoll]]s (For El Shaddolls [[El Shaddoll Construct|Construct]] (Forbidden in the TCG), [[El Shaddoll Winda|Winda]], [[El Shaddoll Grysta|Grysta]], [[El Shaddoll Shekhinaga|Shekhinaga]], [[El Shaddoll Wendigo|Wendigo]], and [[El Shaddoll Anomalilith|Anomalilith]]). Can also be used to fuse any two Synchro or Xyz Monsters from either side of the field to make [[Elder Entity Norden]] (Forbidden). Strong when used in [[Predaplant]]s, whose effects can easily make any monster your opponent controls an eligible material. Also viable in [[Invoked]]. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Powerful, chainable Quick-Play Spell Card that cannot be chained to. Can fuse monsters from either player's side of the field. Can be very useful to break multi-negate boards, as it cannot be negated. Mainly abused in Decks whose Fusion Monsters call for monsters of a certain Attribute, such as [[HERO]]es (any "Omni HERO"), [[Shaddoll]]s, or [[Invoked]]. Can also be used to fuse any two Synchro or Xyz Monsters from either side of the field to make [[Elder Entity Norden]] (Forbidden). Strong when used in [[Predaplant]]s, whose effects can easily make any monster your opponent controls an eligible material. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Personal Spoofing]]
 
| [[Personal Spoofing]]
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| [[Solemn Strike]]
 
| [[Solemn Strike]]
| Powerful Counter Trap Card that can negate any Special Summon or monster effect for only 1500 LP. Can be somewhat better than Solemn Warning (Limited) due to its lower cost and somewhat broader negation pool, and can be searched by cards such as Guiding Ariadne. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Powerful Counter Trap Card that can negate any Special Summon or monster effect for only 1500 LP. Can be somewhat better than Solemn Warning (Limited) due to its lower cost and somewhat broader negation pool, and can be searched by cards such as [[Guiding Ariadne]]. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[No longer on list|<span style="color:white;">No longer on list</span>]]
 
! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[No longer on list|<span style="color:white;">No longer on list</span>]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Burner, Dragon Ruler of Sparks]]
 
| [[Burner, Dragon Ruler of Sparks]]
| rowspan="4" | Were formerly Forbidden due to being able to easily special Summon their respective Level 7 Dragon Rulers directly from the Deck for easy [[Mecha Phantom Beast Dracossack|Rank]] [[Number 11: Big Eye|7]] [[Number 74: Master of Blades|Xyz]] Summons and/or [[Crimson Blader|Level 8]] [[Stardust Radiance Dragon|Synchro]] [[Scrap Dragon|Summons]]. Now that their respective Level 7 counterparts are Forbidden in both the TCG and OCG, these cards came back to 3.
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| rowspan="4" | Were formerly Forbidden due to being able to easily special Summon their respective Level 7 Dragon Rulers directly from the Deck for easy [[Mecha Phantom Beast Dracossack|Rank]] [[Number 11: Big Eye|7]] [[Number 74: Master of Blades|Xyz]] Summons and/or [[Crimson Blader|Level 8]] [[Stardust Spark Dragon|Synchro]] [[Scrap Dragon|Summons]]. After their "adult" counterparts were Forbidden, these cards came back to 3.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Lightning, Dragon Ruler of Drafts]]
 
| [[Lightning, Dragon Ruler of Drafts]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[D.D. Assailant]]
 
| [[D.D. Assailant]]
| Hit back when [[Warrior#Warrior_Toolbox_Deck|Warrior Toolbox]] Decks were Tier 1. Powerful in a different way to its similar counterparts [[D.D. Warrior]] and [[D.D. Warrior Lady]], as it needs to be destroyed to fire off its banishment effect, meaning it can attack low-power monsters without wasting its effect. The Warrior Toolbox is irrelevant now, so this is gone from the list.
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| Hit back when [[Warrior#Warrior Toolbox Deck|Warrior Toolbox]] Decks were Tier 1. Powerful in a different way to its similar counterparts [[D.D. Warrior]] and [[D.D. Warrior Lady]], as it needs to be destroyed to fire off its banishment effect, meaning it can attack low-power monsters without wasting its effect. The Warrior Toolbox is irrelevant now, so this is gone from the list.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[D/D Lamia]]
 
| [[D/D Lamia]]
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|- style= "background-color:black;"
 
|- style= "background-color:black;"
 
| [[Number 11: Big Eye|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 11: Big Eye</font>]]
 
| [[Number 11: Big Eye|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 11: Big Eye</font>]]
| <span style="color: white"> Very powerful Rank 7 Xyz Monster. Good effect. Can permanently take any opponent's monster, with no restriction about how it can be used, although it can't attack the turn it uses its effect. Came back to 3 since the main Decks that Summoned this so easily (Dragon Rulers and Mermails) are dead and irrelevant, respectively.</span>
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| <span style="color: white"> Very powerful Rank 7 Xyz Monster. Good effect. Can permanently take any opponent's monster, with no restriction about how it can be used, although it can't attack the turn it uses its effect. Came back to 3 since the main Decks that Summoned this so easily are dead ([[Dragon Ruler|<font color="#99CCFF">Dragon Rulers</font>]]) or irrelevant ([[Spellbook|<font color="#99CCFF">Spellbooks</font>]], [[Mermail|<font color="#99CCFF">Mermails</font>]]).</span>
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Performapal Pendulum Sorcerer]]
 
| [[Performapal Pendulum Sorcerer]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Raiza the Storm Monarch]]
 
| [[Raiza the Storm Monarch]]
| Raiza was overused in Monarch Decks, and that was Tier 1 back then. [[Caius the Shadow Monarch|Caius]] was released, along with other faster Decks so this was let off. Caius is now considered to be better anyways.
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| A key part of Monarch Decks which were Tier 1 at the time of its Limiting. Decks have become much faster since, and the permanent removal provided by [[Caius the Shadow Monarch]] is considered to be superior now.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Reborn Tengu]]
 
| [[Reborn Tengu]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Senju of the Thousand Hands]]
 
| [[Senju of the Thousand Hands]]
| Same as [[Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands]] (above).
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| Ultimately less versatile than [[Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands]] (above), but that did not stop [[Nekroz]] decks abusing it.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Sinister Serpent]]
 
| [[Sinister Serpent]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Spore]]
 
| [[Spore]]
| Related to [[Glow-Up Bulb]], who is also Unlimited. Universal Tuner. Very potent Level altering effect. It is currently unknown why this card didn't go to Unlimited in the September 2012 format (its effect can only be used once per Duel, so no one ran more than one).
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| Related to [[Glow-Up Bulb]]. Universal Tuner. Very potent Level altering effect. It is currently unknown why this card didn't go to Unlimited in the September 2012 format (its effect can only be used once per Duel, so no one ran more than one).
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Star Seraph Sovereign]]
 
| [[Star Seraph Sovereign]]
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Called by the Grave]]
 
| [[Called by the Grave]]
| Easily activated during your turn to cancel out an opponent's handtrap ([[Maxx "C"]] Forbidden in the TCG, [[Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring]], Semi-Limited in the OCG etc.). Potentially allows a player to build up near-impenetrable fields unopposed. Previously Semi-Limited to promote diversity.
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| Easily activated during your turn to cancel out an opponent's handtrap ([[Maxx "C"]] Forbidden in the TCG, [[Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring]], Semi-Limited in the OCG etc.). Potentially allows a player to build up near-impenetrable fields unopposed. Previously Semi-Limited to promote diversity, but dropped off the list thanks to the oppressive [[Firewall Dragon]] being Forbidden.
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Card of Demise]]
 
| [[Card of Demise]]

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Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

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This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.
This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.
Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).
And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.
See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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